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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:56 pm
by Rad
In post 6121, T-Bone wrote:I kinda limited myself with my embargo on neighbors to be fair. I just think the existence of so many is important somehow. I sat on the knowledge for a long time for that reason. Maybe I'm making a mistake but it's mine to make.

I also don't want to force anyone to just "pick" from my list. Like if you truly town read any and all of those players I'm not about to bully anyone into compromising.
I mean, what kind of importance could the neighborhoods really play in terms of a town victory? Will aliens come down and the more neighborhoods that are alive the more likely town is to survive? Joking, but really, what kind of shocking twist do you think could come from it realistically?

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:57 pm
by Lukewarm
Luke's updated preference for where the day will end:

How many votes each player would need for me to join their wagon0 - Frogsterking
1 - Klick
2 - BlueBloodedToffee
2 - Taly
2 - ProfessorDrapion
3 - Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus)
4 - Best Bird PenguinPower
4 - RCEnigma The toad
6 - Bellaphant
6 - Enchant
7 - Malakittens
7 - Cephrir
7 - JohnnyFarrar
7 - Rad
8 - Lukewarm
8 - MalcolmTucker
8 - Mathblade
9 - Cytosine and Guanine (Ircher and RH9)
9 - T-Bone
10 -PookyTheMagicalBear
11 - Cat Scratch Fever humaneatingmonkey
13 - Off the Hook
13 - Bell
13 - Dunnstral
23 - Roden
23 - Dwlee99

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:57 pm
by T-Bone
Ohhhhh I'm moving up spicy

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:58 pm
by T-Bone
In post 6125, Rad wrote:
In post 6121, T-Bone wrote:I kinda limited myself with my embargo on neighbors to be fair. I just think the existence of so many is important somehow. I sat on the knowledge for a long time for that reason. Maybe I'm making a mistake but it's mine to make.

I also don't want to force anyone to just "pick" from my list. Like if you truly town read any and all of those players I'm not about to bully anyone into compromising.
I mean, what kind of importance could the neighborhoods really play in terms of a town victory? Will aliens come down and the more neighborhoods that are alive the more likely town is to survive? Joking, but really, what kind of shocking twist do you think could come from it realistically?
Town role composition maybe? Its a gut feeling.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:58 pm
by Rad
Luke you read Prof that low really? He's just kind obvtowning it here imo, especially after reading his scum game.

Penguin is low enough on your list that we could go with that compared to t-bone's.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:59 pm
by Dancing Puppets
In post 6122, Cephrir wrote:
In post 6111, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6107, T-Bone wrote:If I start saying I scum read you Nancy will you leave Ceph alone and call me scum for a bit cause no one is gonna lim me today?
I already explained why he’s scum, so don’t try to discredit me with this omgus bs.

He both called me scum and a pocket. No way in hell is that a real read.
i don't know why im wasting my time responding to this when at the end of the day the crime is suspecting you and you will never ever let it go no matter what

but i offered two different scenarios. i understand that they cant both be true. i don't feel 100% confident about my read on you, so i can also talk about situations where i am wrong

i dont know how else i can explain this it is pretty simple
But that isn’t what you said. You said you were “drooling” at the prospect of my death, then I think maybe in the very next post accused Frog of pocketing me.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:59 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 6127, T-Bone wrote:Ohhhhh I'm moving up spicy
Not actually that spicy.

As soon as I hit send last time, I realized that you were too low. You should have been about there on both lol

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:00 pm
by MathBlade
So C caught me up (thanks C) and said Frog claimed rolecop.

Can anyone explain what the responses to that were?

I am torn between a) don’t elim an investigative claim D1 and b) then anytime someone gets run up claim investigative.

No I haven’t read any of your super special points in the mountains of spam.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:00 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 6061, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 6059, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 6054, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 6053, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Pooky do you got my back? because I got yours!


although you may need to explain to me how CSF is town while I explain to you how they had massive wolf agenda with Frog.
her wolf game is terrible
"Terrible" The girl got me gone in a F5 game I lost to her in.
Please link the game? As I've said before, I literally do not remember this game.
@ProfessorDrapion

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:00 pm
by T-Bone
You're moving up too

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:00 pm
by Cephrir
In post 6130, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6122, Cephrir wrote:
In post 6111, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6107, T-Bone wrote:If I start saying I scum read you Nancy will you leave Ceph alone and call me scum for a bit cause no one is gonna lim me today?
I already explained why he’s scum, so don’t try to discredit me with this omgus bs.

He both called me scum and a pocket. No way in hell is that a real read.
i don't know why im wasting my time responding to this when at the end of the day the crime is suspecting you and you will never ever let it go no matter what

but i offered two different scenarios. i understand that they cant both be true. i don't feel 100% confident about my read on you, so i can also talk about situations where i am wrong

i dont know how else i can explain this it is pretty simple
But that isn’t what you said. You said you were “drooling” at the prospect of my death, then I think maybe in the very next post accused Frog of pocketing me.
hm i have an answer to this but i think it would just upset you so ill keep it to myself

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:01 pm
by Rad
In post 6128, T-Bone wrote:
In post 6125, Rad wrote:
In post 6121, T-Bone wrote:I kinda limited myself with my embargo on neighbors to be fair. I just think the existence of so many is important somehow. I sat on the knowledge for a long time for that reason. Maybe I'm making a mistake but it's mine to make.

I also don't want to force anyone to just "pick" from my list. Like if you truly town read any and all of those players I'm not about to bully anyone into compromising.
I mean, what kind of importance could the neighborhoods really play in terms of a town victory? Will aliens come down and the more neighborhoods that are alive the more likely town is to survive? Joking, but really, what kind of shocking twist do you think could come from it realistically?
Town role composition maybe? Its a gut feeling.
I think a random mix for the neighborhoods makes sense from a game design perspective (not that I've ever designed mafia games). It gives some additional fun tension to the game. Might even have a no scum/scum restriction on them or something. Them being all town seems kinda OP no? Also I'm not in a neighborhood so maybe I'm biased :D

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:02 pm
by Cephrir
In post 6132, MathBlade wrote:So C caught me up (thanks C) and said Frog claimed rolecop.

Can anyone explain what the responses to that were?

I am torn between a) don’t elim an investigative claim D1 and b) then anytime someone gets run up claim investigative.

No I haven’t read any of your super special points in the mountains of spam.
i think the most notable thing about it has been how he claimed ("i am the lord your god, a 2 shot role cop, the best role to ever grace reality, unvote me or perish fools")

it seems like it should be readable

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:02 pm
by Dancing Puppets
In post 6135, Cephrir wrote:
In post 6130, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6122, Cephrir wrote:
In post 6111, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6107, T-Bone wrote:If I start saying I scum read you Nancy will you leave Ceph alone and call me scum for a bit cause no one is gonna lim me today?
I already explained why he’s scum, so don’t try to discredit me with this omgus bs.

He both called me scum and a pocket. No way in hell is that a real read.
i don't know why im wasting my time responding to this when at the end of the day the crime is suspecting you and you will never ever let it go no matter what

but i offered two different scenarios. i understand that they cant both be true. i don't feel 100% confident about my read on you, so i can also talk about situations where i am wrong

i dont know how else i can explain this it is pretty simple
But that isn’t what you said. You said you were “drooling” at the prospect of my death, then I think maybe in the very next post accused Frog of pocketing me.
hm i have an answer to this but i think it would just upset you so ill keep it to myself
What I think is you look like scum backpedaling, sorry hope that didn’t upset you too much.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:03 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
Johnny has posted but not given his opinion on Frogster. That's the most interesting thing I've noticed

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:03 pm
by Cephrir
sure, whatever, i knew this was pointless lol

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:03 pm
by T-Bone
In post 6132, MathBlade wrote:So C caught me up (thanks C) and said Frog claimed rolecop.

Can anyone explain what the responses to that were?

I am torn between a) don’t elim an investigative claim D1 and b) then anytime someone gets run up claim investigative.

No I haven’t read any of your super special points in the mountains of spam.
It's better that you don't read it tbh

My cliff notes are blind panic/rage from Frogster accusing everyone after the role reveal didn't back off votes.

I think in general it hasn't changed anyone's reads. I think we are in general agreement it is NAI.

Some people like Luke and Pooky (they can correct me) think it's a role scum is more likely to have anyway.

Bell and I think it's a role that is plausible for town since roles are not flipped.

That's about it.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:04 pm
by Rad
In post 6137, Cephrir wrote:
In post 6132, MathBlade wrote:So C caught me up (thanks C) and said Frog claimed rolecop.

Can anyone explain what the responses to that were?

I am torn between a) don’t elim an investigative claim D1 and b) then anytime someone gets run up claim investigative.

No I haven’t read any of your super special points in the mountains of spam.
i think the most notable thing about it has been how he claimed ("i am the lord your god, a 2 shot role cop, the best role to ever grace reality, unvote me or perish fools")

it seems like it should be readable
rofl

yeah @Math just glance quickly through frog's ISO, look for BIG LETTERS, shouldn't take long to see how it played out.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:04 pm
by Cephrir
In post 6141, T-Bone wrote:Some people like Luke and Pooky (they can correct me) think it's a role scum is more likely to have anyway.

Bell and I think it's a role that is plausible for town since roles are not flipped.
i think both of these things are true

hope that helps

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:04 pm
by MathBlade
In post 6137, Cephrir wrote:
In post 6132, MathBlade wrote:So C caught me up (thanks C) and said Frog claimed rolecop.

Can anyone explain what the responses to that were?

I am torn between a) don’t elim an investigative claim D1 and b) then anytime someone gets run up claim investigative.

No I haven’t read any of your super special points in the mountains of spam.
i think the most notable thing about it has been how he claimed ("i am the lord your god, a 2 shot role cop, the best role to ever grace reality, unvote me or perish fools")

it seems like it should be readable
Meh. Kinda wanna elim him for that alone. But that’s me wanting to remove the arrogance versus what the smart play is

VOTE: Unvote

I don’t TR Frog but I am going to take overnight to think about it.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:05 pm
by T-Bone
I would hope not you did something similar the other night!

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:06 pm
by T-Bone
In post 6143, Cephrir wrote:
In post 6141, T-Bone wrote:Some people like Luke and Pooky (they can correct me) think it's a role scum is more likely to have anyway.

Bell and I think it's a role that is plausible for town since roles are not flipped.
i think both of these things are true

hope that helps
I mean they can be true in general but only one is true in this game.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:08 pm
by Cephrir
In post 6146, T-Bone wrote:
In post 6143, Cephrir wrote:
In post 6141, T-Bone wrote:Some people like Luke and Pooky (they can correct me) think it's a role scum is more likely to have anyway.

Bell and I think it's a role that is plausible for town since roles are not flipped.
i think both of these things are true

hope that helps
I mean they can be true in general but only one is true in this game.
"role more likely for scum to have" & "still could plausibly be town"

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:08 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 6129, Rad wrote:Luke you read Prof that low really? He's just kind obvtowning it here imo, especially after reading his scum game.

Penguin is low enough on your list that we could go with that compared to t-bone's.

There have been a number of posts that made me feel like he was posting for the purpose of posting, and the way he has approached trying to tackle the whole scum team feels kinda non-genuine. Most of his reads come across that way to me. idk.

I also scum read Galron when he was here.

I am sold on him being scum, but I would not be surprised. --- And it is kind of the issue where there are just more people who have worked their way up my reads, kinda leaving him behind.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:08 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 6098, Cephrir wrote:
In post 6094, Cephrir wrote:
In post 6082, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 6062, Cephrir wrote:
In post 6057, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 6049, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 6037, Cephrir wrote:
In post 6020, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 6013, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you can vote for frog and i will pretend you're not in a bus
Hey wow so we share similar reads other then CSF that would also confirm Dunn as wolf?

So you think T-Bone and Rad also potential wolves with Frog and maybe Cephrir if there is a busser?
feel like frog's behavior towards me all game pretty clearly implicates us as not partnered
No I want to hear more about Drapion's theory. Drapion why are Ceph and I partnered?

"Frog is pocketing you"
says Cephrir to Puppets meanwhile Cephrir currently scum reads Puppets.
i can suspect two different players without thinking they are partners

fundamental key to reading me: you need to understand that my confidence level in my reads is ALWAYS low
You know what pocketing means right?




(You also know a wolf cannot pocket another wolf right?)
...yeah... did you read my post?
let me try again

i suspect that DP is scum

however if i am wrong about that read which is distinctly possible then i find frog's pocket attempts suspicious
All handy dandy now but was never explained earlier when the situation transpired.