In post 6047, nancy wrote:Because I see them actually trying to reach agreement and compromise if necessary with other players. It doesn't scream scum at me to the point that I'd want to wagon it.
Senator nancy, let it not be said that Caesar neglects His citizens cries for counsel and succor. Ask, and ye shall receive.
We are at present fairly certain of the loyalties of the good Senators Mathblade, Nero Cain, and Creature, though We are frustrated with the stubborn insistence on wrong-headed proposals by the last.
We also have a modicum of respect for the intentions of Senators Senpai, davesaz, Brian Skies, and Maxous, though these perceptions remain under review.
Of late we have grown concerned with the conduct of Senators Leonshade, Sondam, and perhaps the representatives from Akane and Nebby. Our Judgment of these personages shall be inevitable, but fair. Be it said that they are not yet convicted in Our Sight.
We are yet of two minds concerning the villains Yuri and Rampage, convincing cases for both having been presented before the throne. It is Our intention to decide their fate within a day's time, but we are leaning towards conviction of both.
Finally, We have heretofore rendered Judgment against the barbarian Vecna, and it is the responsibility of all good Senators to cast their vote for this criminal's demise.
If presented with respect for Our Station, noble Caesar shall hear petitions for details concerning any of the aforementioned. Those not discussed have made little impression upon Us yet.
Mostly reasonable reads, though I'd like to hear about the TR on Maxous and Skies. Do you believe that Vecna and ABR could be scum together? My Lord
half-hearted bow
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:46 am
by Creature
Sorry, I don't like making wall posts. When I write them they lag as hell, they're hard to type and for some reason I keep editing things in and out.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:47 am
by nancy
Meh. Alright. Goodnight. Love you.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:52 am
by Creature
davesaz, I'm seeing you, don't try to get away
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:59 am
by Caesar Wills It
Senator nancy, if you have not yet left the Senate chambers, would you clarify for the assembly whether your list of suspicions ascends or descends in suspected disloyalty? We find your suspicions largely in line with Our Own, but the priority of yon list is ambiguous. If this call does not reach you before your visit to Hypnos, son of Nyx and Erebus, We shall await your reply when you next greet Aurora, She of the Dawn.
Senator Leonshade, we find your queries to somewhat affirm our ill feelings toward you, as they seem to convey information when they in fact do not. We are concerned that this demonstrates an attempt to appear more interested in the welfare of Imperial Rome than you are. Nevertheless, We shall expound.
Senators Maxous and Skies have entered Our preliminary Good Graces due to what appears to be concerted efforts to root out treason and betrayal among their fellow Senators. They have some distance to go before fully earning Our Confidence, but for now they merit a modicum of Trust.
We find it possible that the heinous Vecna might conspire with Senator Rampage, as the former's antipathy towards the latter appears feigned in hindsight. We again point out that the dubious rage with which the vile Vecna castigated Senator Rampage at the end of the first Senatorial session has largely evaporated, consigned to mere dislike and half-hearted probes against him, easily distracted when new targets, such as Senator Maxous or Ourself are presented.
In short, aye. We find the prospect of a foul alliance between the two to be a possibility worthy of further study. As they teach in the Legion, however, leave the planning of tomorrow's battle until after today's Victory is achieved.
For the Glory of Rome,
Augustus Caesar.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:25 am
by Akane and Nebby
I'm here.
AMA
-Nebby
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:46 am
by Leonshade
In post 6146, nancy wrote:At the moment I suspect Yuri, ABR, ssbm, Vecna, and Leonshade of conspiring against the Senate in that order of likelihood.
Why are you voting for Vecna if you're more convinced of ABR?
Senator nancy, if you have not yet left the Senate chambers, would you clarify for the assembly whether your list of suspicions ascends or descends in suspected disloyalty? We find your suspicions largely in line with Our Own, but the priority of yon list is ambiguous. If this call does not reach you before your visit to Hypnos, son of Nyx and Erebus, We shall await your reply when you next greet Aurora, She of the Dawn.
Senator Leonshade, we find your queries to somewhat affirm our ill feelings toward you, as they seem to convey information when they in fact do not. We are concerned that this demonstrates an attempt to appear more interested in the welfare of Imperial Rome than you are. Nevertheless, We shall expound.
Senators Maxous and Skies have entered Our preliminary Good Graces due to what appears to be concerted efforts to root out treason and betrayal among their fellow Senators. They have some distance to go before fully earning Our Confidence, but for now they merit a modicum of Trust.
We find it possible that the heinous Vecna might conspire with Senator Rampage, as the former's antipathy towards the latter appears feigned in hindsight. We again point out that the dubious rage with which the vile Vecna castigated Senator Rampage at the end of the first Senatorial session has largely evaporated, consigned to mere dislike and half-hearted probes against him, easily distracted when new targets, such as Senator Maxous or Ourself are presented.
In short, aye. We find the prospect of a foul alliance between the two to be a possibility worthy of further study. As they teach in the Legion, however, leave the planning of tomorrow's battle until after today's Victory is achieved.
Huh, you're the first one who has commented on Vecna v. ABR looking fake. I'm taking it at face value myself, and I think there is at most one scum in Vecna/ABR. I'm TRing Vecna, hence my vote on the ABR wagon.
I've seen Maxous doing some scumhunting, even if I largely disagree with their reads, but I'm less sure on Skies at the moment. It's why I've been prodding at them constantly.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:46 am
by Leonshade
At this point I'm more confident that Kyouko will flip scum than ABR, but I'm also confident that Vecna will flip town and I don't want his lynch to happen.
In post 5950, Vecna wrote:Ive provided plenty of material this game for your read to be based on other stuff that isnt gu
yes you have but that doesn't make my reason that
I had a gut scum read on you and then you tried to laugh it off (and I think thats a scummy reaction)
any less valid. Also your self vote is just scum
ATE
. Like if you were really concerned with sheep voting and junk you'd be wary as hell of the Cesar and ABR wagons.
I think I've seen you use this as a scumtell as town before (WWE Mafia maybe?) but I'd like to know why you think it's scummy. Why wouldn't town laugh off someone's gut SR?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:50 am
by Leonshade
VOTE: SSBM_Kyouko
We could always try.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:50 am
by Creature
VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko
lalalalala
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:51 am
by Creature
"I don't want to lynch Kyouko" Do you townread him?
"Vecna is scummier" Do you think ssbm can be scum too?
"Scum are pulling a counterwagon" There's Leonshade and me.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:53 am
by Nahdia
Lynch Vote 2.08
Vecna (7):
Caesar Wills It, Nero Cain, Albert B. Rampage, Elbirn, Maxous, Brian Skies, nancy
Albert B. Rampage (5):
Lil Uzi Vert, Mathblade, Vecna, Akane and Nebby, davesaz
ssbm_Kyouko (3):
Yuri, Leonshade, Creature
Caesar Wills It (1):
NoticeMeSenpai
Creature (1):
Sondam
Not Voting (2):
ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV
With 19 players alive, it takes 10 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-28 16:35:13), at which point we will default to no lynch.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:55 am
by Maxous
Really?
NOW you want Kyouko lynched?
Not gonna say no to getting rid of that scum though
VOTE: ssbm_kyouko
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:56 am
by Creature
In post 6162, Creature wrote:"Scum are pulling a counterwagon" There's Leonshade and me.
Yuri, Leonshade, Maxous and me.
If you're going to say scum is pulling a counterwagon to town, accuse one of us.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:09 am
by Elbirn
In post 6102, Vecna wrote:
It had died down long ago, but got dredgedup again as a reason to vote me after i pronounced a scumread on them
Stop scum-painting me you disingenuous Lillyhammer
In post 6107, Vecna wrote:Anyways i have adressed maxous reasoning for why he is voting me. I have adressed elbirns reasoning.
None of them have engaged my reasoning. Ceasar had ignored my request to provide reasons for his vote. People continue to vote in silence without backing their shit up.
Nancy provided zero reasoning. Brian skies provided zero reasoning. Ceasar provided zero reasoning. Nero cains reason is because i laughed at his wrong gutread. None of these slots explained why not ABR except nero.
Remember this post the day abr flips scum
There are 7 scum and they're all voting for you. Got it. Crystal clear. Mountains of sense.
My snark aside,
I am willing to reread you and actually take note of your notice read because fine, I tldr'd the past like 50 pages.
But you still made a move that makes no sense to me (yuri/notice interactions), you still set up the Beeboy lynch and then tried to disavow yourself of it, and you're kind of a flailing scumshit rn. I also hold that "hurr durr go read my old posts" doesn't qualify as giving reason for me to engage, but instead of being a pedantic fuck I'm just gonna go hunt for your old posts.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:09 am
by Elbirn
There are people in this world who are townreading Vecna
Convince me. *sips tea*
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:10 am
by Akane and Nebby
Oh now people want Kyouko.
Fine by me. VOTE: Kyouko
-Nebby
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:10 am
by Creature
Right now I'm sorta trusting Pine.
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:11 am
by Akane and Nebby
^
-Nebby
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:40 am
by MathBlade
Ugh. AFK for the rest of the day.
I still wish ABR or Yuri lynched more so than Vecna as I think that is SVS between Vecna and ABR and if not Vecna is the Town of the two.
In post 4909, Akane and Nebby wrote:No.
What you are doing is you are saying "Hey, my confbias will be yelling IMPACTFUL WORDS at you and hopefully you get lynched because of it."
I honestly think you're not even pushing a read anymore tbh.
-Nebby
And this is the moment you start omgusing.
You need to stop doing this shit. I can't protect you in every fucking game, and once I die or it hits lylo people just lynch you anyway. At some point you need to start helping yourself. Please stop making my life harder. I can't protect you and hunt scum and try to convince others that I'm right all at the same time.
Take a step back, look at the push as a whole, and tell me whether you think it is at all plausible that your play could have caused people to genuinely believe that you're so close to confirmed scum that they might as well just look for your buddies.
In post 3669, Akane and Nebby wrote:Actually.
Jesus fucking crist.
What the fuck am I doing...
This town went fucking crazy and nuts and not focused on Yuri once ABR started doing things...
Timing is kinda conveniant actually.
-Nebby
Titus, the foundation is in place. Now hammer Beeboy to see what theyre made off
VOTE: Beeboy
LET THE DIE BE CAST
COOKIE MONSTER WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SHIT
ALISAE FUCKING READ THIS HE SAYS ABR IS PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE THEN VOTES WITH ABR SECONDS LATER. COME ON
Sup frogger, you dont realize either it gives us scum, or discredits him enough for people to see the light?
youre not really this dense right?
Scum!vecna being townread by nearly everyone putting himself on the chopping block to get one town lynched? Dont make me laugh.
Scum!Vecna being townread by Titus knows he's never getting lynched, especially so as he and Titus seem in agreement that everyone who scumreads him is basically either scum or a policy lynch.
In post 3669, Akane and Nebby wrote:Actually.
Jesus fucking crist.
What the fuck am I doing...
This town went fucking crazy and nuts and not focused on Yuri once ABR started doing things...
Timing is kinda conveniant actually.
-Nebby
Titus, the foundation is in place. Now hammer Beeboy to see what theyre made off
VOTE: Beeboy
LET THE DIE BE CAST
COOKIE MONSTER WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SHIT
Titus.
Look at this with a clear mind.
And ask yourself "Is Vecna's behavoir here townish? Is it towny to plant this kind of paranoia and foundation in the town? Is it towny to vote with someone you just voted and scumread?"
-Nebby
Nebby, I want to end the day either on Beeboy or ABR. ABR is my scumread, Beeboy will either flip scum or give me what I want tomorrow.
Why would I 1v1 ABR here as scum? While im in absolutely no danger of getting lynched whatsoever.
Im doing it because im convinced he's scum and a detriment to town.
We were all getting along. Untill he stopped lurking and started attacking titus, and rummaging around.
All of a sudden frog is hopping around, youre hopping around, all coherence is gone.
Lynch me if you must, but you WILL lynch ABR tomorrow.
He would 1v1 ABR as scum because he knows he'll win with the combination of buddies to back him and Titus hard tring him. He's overjustifying it here too, by framing ABR as a detriment to town he's setting himself up for any backlash from an ABR!townflip with "oh but he was anti-town because he pushed on Titus and caused the townblock to fall apart". If the bloc was solid to begin with then that wouldn't have happened. That wasn't a townbloc, that was a bloc with scum firmly rooted in it.
Youre right. Im defending the obvious town player because some people are too dense to see it.
Now im 1v1'ing ARB because people are too dense to see it.
Take your pick.
Whiteknighting.
In post 3893, Vecna wrote:I dare to commit. I dare to stand for something.
You have the choice to lynch the obv choice or the obv scum.
Yes I casted doubt. Because you need to doubt the obvious scum.
Scum casts doubt without you knowing it. I do it blatantly and right in your face.
Because I know what has to happen. And im convinced about it.
Grandstanding with the "I dare to commit. I dare to stand for something."
Scum casting doubt is how you catch scum. This is also disingenuous because he was one of the ones scumreading Sondam for doubtcasting.
In post 3897, Vecna wrote:I think some people are overreacting to the way how I tried to push them to vote my way. 2 votes were allready on me from before, and maria was scumreading me before.
ABR on my wagon is the obvious scum.
Ceasar could be scum, but we dont have enough information.
Im a bit sad that the Alisae hydra and Froggeh are voting me. I thought they would see what I am doing, and realize it cannot possibly be scum motivated (misguided town at the worst). Im trying to defend our townblock and get the interfearing scum lynched.
Titus is right.
Anyone doubting just needs to go thrrough ABR's iso.
He went from hard-lurking, to attacking titus, to pretending to want to get replaced, to suddenly being hyper-active and trying to strongarm people into a certain lynch.
His response to my action was the most telling. He knew he had nowhere to go as soon as I did such a crazy move that made sure there was no way back for me.
his only course of action now is to try and win the 1v1 and try and bullshit his way out of this situation tomorrow.
If he was town he would try and handle it differently.
Spends half the post on AtE, buddies Titus HARD. Throws shade at someone wanting to be replaced and calls it pretend.
The whole fucking assumption of how one should act when pushing their scumread is gross here too. "If he was town he would try and handle it differently." I don't believe that Vecna actually believes this, and I think that if he truly thought that meant anything there wouldn't have been a need for half this post to be AtE.
In post 3893, Vecna wrote:I dare to commit. I dare to stand for something.
You have the choice to lynch the obv choice or the obv scum.
Yes I casted doubt. Because you need to doubt the obvious scum.
Scum casts doubt without you knowing it. I do it blatantly and right in your face.
Because I know what has to happen. And im convinced about it.
You're so tough look at you.
WITNESS ME
In post 3902, Vecna wrote:If I do end up getting lynched, tomorrow you will look for the people that will blame my mislynch on me and that go "its his own fault for doing something so incredibly scummy, he brought it on himself, blabla"
And you will not make excuses but lynch ABR.
Were not lynching me though. Were lynching this scum-lord and hard-confirming me as town.
Im off to bed now.
Do the smart thing.
Proof that he was 100% confident he wasn't getting lynched because he's been up Titus' ass all game.
I still don't see what you see, buddy. I see confident scum that was certain he'd never get lynched over ABR and could bullshit his way out of it, and laid the foundation to do so.
VOTE: Vecna
Youre right about 1 thing: im very confident as scum.
You can ask anyone in this game that I trust in my own abilities to endgame anyone.
What do you think wouldve happened to me if people sheeped me and lynched ABR, and he wouldve townflipped?
Or do you think I was bussing?
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At any rate, Im resetting my read on you because Im beginning to suspect I was potentially wrong. Id suggest you do the same (since your wrong as well), but Im assuming it probably wont happen.
There's only one lion here.
Gonna check out your Elbrin case later.
Hmm, I like Notice's response to me. I may have just gotten the idea that Jae = scum and confbiased their complaints into scummy when they're probably NAI.
I think i understand what you meant here, and I felt the same way. Which once again shows me we have the same thought process. Good.
(That is, if youre just not simply copying me since everything we think is creepily similair )
Okay
So I see a bunch of "notice is town now" but not much in the way of explanation, contrary to your claim earlier that you're "transparent"
Dumb it down for me like I'm 5. Is it just that one post you liked?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:48 am
by Elbirn
>looks back on this
>spoiler within a spoiler
>Squidward adjusting his sunglasses.jpg
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:52 am
by Akane and Nebby
Elbrin why did I scumread you again?
I genuinely don't remember.
Cuz that looks like townposting.
-Nebby
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