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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:22 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 5854, T-Bone wrote:
In post 5849, Lukewarm wrote:Isn't role cop more standardly a scum role lmao
Well as I lean town on Frog, I think its plausible since roles aren't revealed on flip.

^ this is your statement

you think his role is plausible
BECAUSE
roles aren't revealed on the flip.

I am asking you to explain how "roles not reveal on flip" gets you to "town plausibly has a rolecop"


to find the mafia ninja is not a valid response because IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FLIPLESS NATURE OF THE GAME.

to find the mafia strongman is not a valid response because IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FLIPLESS NATURE OF THE GAME.

to find the town princess is not a valid response because IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FLIPLESS NATURE OF THE GAME.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:22 pm
by Dancing Puppets
In post 6186, Cephrir wrote:pooky on a scale from 1-10 how beneficial to town wincon would it be for this day to end asap

tbone, luke, csf & dp if you happen to be around, same q
It would be beneficial to lim scum. Like wtf’s the point of you asking me this? You think I’m pocketed scum, don’t you? :lol:

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:22 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
well tbh based on that fact, Frog role does make sense for town since we can't see abilities via kills.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:23 pm
by Cephrir
In post 6201, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6186, Cephrir wrote:pooky on a scale from 1-10 how beneficial to town wincon would it be for this day to end asap

tbone, luke, csf & dp if you happen to be around, same q
It would be beneficial to lim scum. Like wtf’s the point of you asking me this? You think I’m pocketed scum, don’t you? :lol:
yes i meant to ask drapion i keep doing this

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:23 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
like you're just pulling random ass excuses out of nowhere atp that have NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR ACTUAL STATEMENT which is "flipless game" means town rolecop makes sense.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:23 pm
by Enchant
In post 6176, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 6165, T-Bone wrote:And also as a tool to counterclaim Mafia fakeclaims if they decide to.
mafia can just claim the roles they actually have - rolecop is literally useless against trueclaiming

Hello, i am Strongman.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:23 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
yeah I think I see what pooky is saying now

I'm just townreading Frog based on dayplay

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:24 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 6202, ProfessorDrapion wrote:well tbh based on that fact, Frog role does make sense for town since we can't see abilities via kills.
um how does Frog!town magically know who is going to die at night?

r the mafia going to send him a msg like "hey we're going to kill so and so tonight you better go invest them so their role info doesnt get lost hurr durr"

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:24 pm
by T-Bone
I'm out of patience for this honestly. I explained the plausibility of it twice, other players have explained it to you, I'm going to stubbornly not do it a third time.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:24 pm
by Dancing Puppets
In post 6199, MathBlade wrote:I think all the suggestions about what benefit or not a rolecop could do and how scum could react are really antitown and should stop.

The short of it is either you believe Frog or not.
What I don’t understand is why he is set on flipping Luke in particular?

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:24 pm
by Cephrir
In post 6186, Cephrir wrote:pooky on a scale from 1-10 how beneficial to town wincon would it be for this day to end asap

tbone, luke, csf & dp if you happen to be around, same q
@pooktavius/t-bizzle/csf/drapion

my question is more important than whatever u are bickering about

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:25 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 6200, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 5854, T-Bone wrote:
In post 5849, Lukewarm wrote:Isn't role cop more standardly a scum role lmao
Well as I lean town on Frog, I think its plausible since roles aren't revealed on flip.

^ this is your statement

you think his role is plausible
BECAUSE
roles aren't revealed on the flip.

I am asking you to explain how "roles not reveal on flip" gets you to "town plausibly has a rolecop"


to find the mafia ninja is not a valid response because IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FLIPLESS NATURE OF THE GAME.

to find the mafia strongman is not a valid response because IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FLIPLESS NATURE OF THE GAME.

to find the town princess is not a valid response because IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FLIPLESS NATURE OF THE GAME.
Yeah kinda jibberish.

Go look at my posts I explained it.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:25 pm
by MathBlade
You both have valid arguments

Everyone keeps trying to be the goddamn hero

Stop it please

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:25 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 6202, ProfessorDrapion wrote:well tbh based on that fact, Frog role does make sense for town since we can't see abilities via kills.
@Pooky

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:25 pm
by T-Bone
Oh man even The Professor has to explain it to you and he thinks I'm scum! I'm dying here.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:26 pm
by MathBlade
In post 6209, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6199, MathBlade wrote:I think all the suggestions about what benefit or not a rolecop could do and how scum could react are really antitown and should stop.

The short of it is either you believe Frog or not.
What I don’t understand is why he is set on flipping Luke in particular?
*shrug* haven’t read yet.

I got the two second summary in the hood.

I have a bad cough and am going to lay down in a bit

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:26 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 6203, Cephrir wrote:
In post 6201, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6186, Cephrir wrote:pooky on a scale from 1-10 how beneficial to town wincon would it be for this day to end asap

tbone, luke, csf & dp if you happen to be around, same q
It would be beneficial to lim scum. Like wtf’s the point of you asking me this? You think I’m pocketed scum, don’t you? :lol:
yes i meant to ask drapion i keep doing this
ask me what?

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:26 pm
by T-Bone
In post 6210, Cephrir wrote:
In post 6186, Cephrir wrote:pooky on a scale from 1-10 how beneficial to town wincon would it be for this day to end asap

tbone, luke, csf & dp if you happen to be around, same q
@pooktavius/t-bizzle/csf/drapion

my question is more important than whatever u are bickering about
Okay I got that last post in I'm done cause it's dumb.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:26 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 6207, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 6202, ProfessorDrapion wrote:well tbh based on that fact, Frog role does make sense for town since we can't see abilities via kills.
um how does Frog!town magically know who is going to die at night?

r the mafia going to send him a msg like "hey we're going to kill so and so tonight you better go invest them so their role info doesnt get lost hurr durr"

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:26 pm
by Cephrir
In post 6210, Cephrir wrote:
In post 6186, Cephrir wrote:pooky on a scale from 1-10 how beneficial to town wincon would it be for this day to end asap

tbone, luke, csf & dp if you happen to be around, same q
@pooktavius/t-bizzle/csf/drapion

my question is more important than whatever u are bickering about
if your answers are high enough numbers there will be a follow up question and id like to get this settled in the next hour or so

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:26 pm
by Rad
In post 6189, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i don't think it even makes sense for town to have a role cop

i don't see what utility it would serve if any

the theory you are claiming is not that a rolecop can exist in a large theme or in a game of mafia in general.

but that specifically
the flipless nature of this large theme, makes it make sense that a rolecop exists on the town side


I am asking you why specifically the flipless nature of this game makes role cop make sense

I've already explained why it makes a lot of sense as a scum role for adding utility to scum side.
What sense is it to have a VT then?

At least a town!Role cop is more useful than a VT yeah? So why not?

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:27 pm
by Cat Scratch Fever
In post 6210, Cephrir wrote:
In post 6186, Cephrir wrote:pooky on a scale from 1-10 how beneficial to town wincon would it be for this day to end asap

tbone, luke, csf & dp if you happen to be around, same q
@pooktavius/t-bizzle/csf/drapion

my question is more important than whatever u are bickering about
Idk... 6? 7?

Prefer to lim someone I don't think is town

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:27 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 6204, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like you're just pulling random ass excuses out of nowhere atp that have NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR ACTUAL STATEMENT which is "flipless game" means town rolecop makes sense.
Pooky do you think that this argument makes TBone scum, or are you just trying to win the arguement?

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:27 pm
by Cephrir
In post 6219, Cephrir wrote:
In post 6210, Cephrir wrote:
In post 6186, Cephrir wrote:pooky on a scale from 1-10 how beneficial to town wincon would it be for this day to end asap

tbone, luke, csf & dp if you happen to be around, same q
@pooktavius/t-bizzle/csf/drapion

my question is more important than whatever u are bickering about
if your answers are high enough numbers there will be a follow up question and id like to get this settled in the next hour or so
relatedly pls do not exaggerate your answer out of frustration w the game state

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:27 pm
by Dunnstral
Frogster's role is NAI. There are arguments for it belonging to mafia or town and that cannot be determined without knowing other mafia roles.

The way they went about their claim is what is not NAI. I was not amused when they acted like their role was super important and tried to strongarm the town, I don't know what it means for their alignment.