Super UPick - Abandoned by mods

[Pomegranate]

Claim: Doublevoter. My vote counts twice. And that means two lovely votes on Boxman.

[Iecerint]

Why on earth did that require "clearing up?" <_<

The claim jives with Drench rarely voting and the player he voted D1 dying at L-1. However, Pyro was Mod-confirmed Hated. Therefore, I think that Pome's abilities change over time, Pome's doublevote works by making players Hated, or Pome is lying.

Pome, do you have access to Drench's rule about the set-up?

[Pomegranate]

Why on earth did that require "clearing up?" <_<

Pome, do you have access to Drench's rule about the set-up?

I've never been a doublevoter, and I'm not sure how it works. I'll PM emp to see if I can find out Drench's setup rule.

[Iecerint]

Doublevoters, typically, are just what they sound like. They vote for someone and the vote counts twice. So if you vote to put someone at L-1, it lynches them. Drench did this to Pyro D1 IIRC. However, this normally leads to a vote count of (n + 1) whereas Pyro died with a vote count of (n) where n is the number of players voting. So that's quite odd. This is why I speculated that Pome's abilities have changed during the course of the game.

Could you please also clarify whether you have *always* been a doublevoter?

[Iecerint]

It's possible that the Mod capped the number of votes Pyro could receive at L-1, as that was sufficient to kill him. If that's the case, it's consistent with Drench being both very scummy and very lucky that his role in the lynch was obscured by the Mod's policy.

[Boxman]

Or it could just be that the mod didn't do a VC at the lynch on Day 1 and we didn't know about it until now because of that? Seems rather obvious to me.

...But what do you guys care, I'm scum.

[Iecerint]

I'm inclined to assume the Mod wouldn't just lazily neglect to add Drench's second vote. Either Drench wasn't a doublevoter back then or the Mod caps votes received at votes required to lynch. If the latter, Drench is very likely scum because he intended to hammer Pyro from (L-2) and bypass his claim. If the former, I'm almost inclined to believe that the chance that Drench would fail to be told/fail to tell us that is slim enough that he's probably lying scum.

[Boxman]

It is possible to go past lynch count with a doublevoter. Emp's probably just lazy and didn't post a VC.

Didn't think about the Drench hammer thing though. Hm.

[Boxman]

Actually, no

I was thinking Drench was the hammer. Not so. His vote came before a VC.

Then there's no way for Drench to be a doublevoter there. A lie, if you will.

Unless Emp forgot.

[Iecerint]

Oh, looks like I misunderstood. I was basing my posts on this bit from Drench's iso:

Also, ThAt'S L-2 so wait 4 tha claim

i counted L-1

But it looks like Drench was the 3rd to vote Pyro, and his vote was only counted once. So either it's an error, or Drench wasn't a doublevoter back then.

[Boxman]

Or its a lie.

I'm inclined to believe an error, honestly.

[Iecerint]

I don't see any reason for Pome to lie about being a doublevoter. It could be that I'm just not creative enough.

[Pomegranate]

Could you please also clarify whether you have *always* been a doublevoter?

I'm doing that now.

[DeathNote]

Don't like Poms claim. Doesn't really fit with what has happened so far.

[populartajo]

I want tajo to show me his big post.

Kay.

BIG POST.

[populartajo]

No, seriously, there is something fishy in Pom's claim. I raelly doubt this is the first time Pom sees a doublevoter. I would research but Im going to trust her:

Pom, this is the first time you see a doublevoter?

Also, Emp, votecount, plz.

We need to test Pom's abillities.

[MafiaSSK]

No, seriously, there is something fishy in Pom's claim. I raelly doubt this is the first time Pom sees a doublevoter. I would research but Im going to trust her:

Pom, this is the first time you see a doublevoter?

Also, Emp, votecount, plz.

We need to test Pom's abillities.

Why the huge doubt?

[MafiaSSK]

No, seriously, there is something fishy in Pom's claim. I raelly doubt this is the first time Pom sees a doublevoter. I would research but Im going to trust her:

Pom, this is the first time you see a doublevoter?

Also, Emp, votecount, plz.

We need to test Pom's abillities.

Why the huge doubt?

EBWOP without a vote?

[Pomegranate]

No, seriously, there is something fishy in Pom's claim. I raelly doubt this is the first time Pom sees a doublevoter. I would research but Im going to trust her:

Pom, this is the first time you see a doublevoter?

I'd seen the term thrown around, but I didn't know if I had to vote twice, or if I could vote for two separate people. Also, why would I claim doublevoter if I wasn't one? Wouldn't it show up in the vote count?

[Iecerint]

Good question. That's why we're trying to get one to show up.

[Pomegranate]

Yup. And I'm waiting for Emp to answer the questions I PMed him-

What Drench's setup rule was, and whether he was always a doublevoter.

[Boxman]

Hey, I'm Mafia and even I know this game is too inactive. You make old Ben very unhappy. Therefore:

Lightsaber: Pomegranate

whee

[Iecerint]

I'm going to hazard a guess that Drench's rule had something to do with DKers. <_<

It doesn't make any sense that BM would do that, though. We were probably going to vig her once she finished producing her claim.

[Boxman]

no

I'm just messing with you guys now.

I don't have a daykill.

[Iecerint]

Unless Pome claims something really fancy (e.g. Drench killed SX) upon hearing from the Mod, I think SSK should shoot her. I'm recommending SSK rather than me because his shot regenerates and mine doesn't.