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Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:45 pm**

v_v yeah I usually don't do catch up post, because if even when playing at the time of event, I don't say much.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:04 pm**

@ Bunnylover
Let me just ask you this. Reading Lelouch's iso, what do you think was scummy about him? I of course realize that Lelouch was town, but tell me in detail where you think the scumtells were. It might shed some light on my supposedly terrible vote.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:32 pm**

danakillsu wrote:@ Bunnylover
Let me just ask you this. Reading Lelouch's iso, what do you think was scummy about him? I of course realize that Lelouch was town, but tell me in detail where you think the scumtells were. It might shed some light on my supposedly terrible vote.

His vote hopping.
Him spamming the thread, making it harder for townie's to actually scum hunt.
This post:

Lelouch VI Britannia wrote:Cough basically people who are RADICAL are heavily investigated but the silent guys get away with it all, I want to make everyone a Radical.

Basically he saying that scum are going to lurk, so I'm going to be loud and ruckus so that you guys don't think I'm town.

But I would be lieing if I didn't say that his posting style just rubbed me the wrong way.

But you voted him, because he used percentage and numbers. I just found that strange.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:27 pm**

Sorry about my absence, anyone who reads Guys should know why.

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:43 am**

Bunnylover, what do you think of Espeonage? What do you think of Tragedy? Why did you avoid talking about not just one but both of the leading wagons today?

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:30 am**

Looks like people read a lot into that "will you think I'm town" comment. It was just sarcasm. It was my impression of his post, which more or less had a minor suspicion followed by "but I think you're town for x nonsense reason." Not breadcrumbing.

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:31 am**

GhostWriter wrote:I'll answer your question with a question: Why is he more scummy than MB?

How about answer questions with answers. Especially when you're being hounded over it because you're ignoring things.

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:32 am**

danakillsu wrote:@ Bunnylover
Let me just ask you this. Reading Lelouch's iso, what do you think was scummy about him? I of course realize that Lelouch was town, but tell me in detail where you think the scumtells were. It might shed some light on my supposedly terrible vote.

Um are you asking BL to explain your vote for you?

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:12 am**

esuriospiritus wrote:Bunnylover, what do you think of Espeonage? What do you think of Tragedy? Why did you avoid talking about not just one but both of the leading wagons today?

I haven't read anything from page 17 or 18, whenever Day 2 started.
So ISO'd, these two:
Tragedy:
I don't get his ISO 10 were he says he glare at three people.
Find it weird that Tragedy doesn't vote Lelouch. Throughout his ISO, he attacks Lelouch, says that nothing is going to save him, but never place his vote on him.
Goes after lurkers.
LOL THAT QUESTION. If I was town LOL.

Espeonage:
I don't know, maybe I missed what was scummy about him.

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:28 am**

<('.'Q)
Why the sudden concentration on me, Bunny?

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:13 am**

Esuriospiritus asked my opinion of you.
Frighten

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Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:34 am**

Oh noes.

!
What's your opinion of mb53?

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:07 am**

He made an impression on me, something to do with Lelouch. Can't exactly remember what it was. Looking back at his ISO, I can't find it.
But I know he said something that I said to myself, "This reads scum to me."

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:57 pm**

Ythan wrote:
danakillsu wrote:@ Bunnylover
Let me just ask you this. Reading Lelouch's iso, what do you think was scummy about him? I of course realize that Lelouch was town, but tell me in detail where you think the scumtells were. It might shed some light on my supposedly terrible vote.
Um are you asking BL to explain your vote for you?

Pffff. Not at all. As you are about to see, I'm going somewhere with this.

Bunnylover wrote:
danakillsu wrote:@ Bunnylover
Let me just ask you this. Reading Lelouch's iso, what do you think was scummy about him? I of course realize that Lelouch was town, but tell me in detail where you think the scumtells were. It might shed some light on my supposedly terrible vote.
His vote hopping.
Him spamming the thread, making it harder for townie's to actually scum hunt.
This post:
Lelouch VI Britannia wrote:Cough basically people who are RADICAL are heavily investigated but the silent guys get away with it all, I want to make everyone a Radical.
Basically he saying that scum are going to lurk, so I'm going to be loud and ruckus so that you guys don't think I'm town.

But I would be lieing if I didn't say that his posting style just rubbed me the wrong way.

But you voted him, because he used percentage and numbers. I just found that strange.

Okay, lets look at this piece by piece.
Vote hopping: Other than his 3 random quickfire votes, he voted twice before my vote and once after it. In other words, vote hopping was a non-issue.
Spamming: This got twice as bad AFTER my vote, if not worse.
Your quote: What? I don't even get your explanation. That wasn't one of his scummy posts, he's just saying he doesn't want other people to lurk.

In other words, the one thing here that is true and actually scummy pretty much happened AFTER my vote. What does that mean? It obviously means that I voted him for a perceived scumtell and stayed on him when he got even scummier. Others had better reasons because they voted later and had more time to spend on this game at the time. But I did mention in a later post that I was pretty sure he was scum giving up by that time.

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:29 pm**

@Mod: Unless you have yet to prod him and he hasn't responded to it for over forty-eight hours, replace Lucersia. I'm not trying to give you more workload, but we don't need a dead weight in this game from a person who appears to have flaked.

Still got homework to do, so don't have time to comment on other posts but might as well go over Bunnylover's catch-up post and why it's scummy (As promised).

Spoiler: Why The Post Is Scummy

Bunnylover wrote:
Dana can you elaborate on this?
I mean with the stupidity that Lelouch was showing, this was your reason for getting on his wagon?

And yet, you don't elaborate on a lot of what you say in terms of game contents. As a matter of fact, much of what you say that is related to the game is contentless.

Bunnylover wrote:Agree with Pinky and the Brain post number 193 about mb53 calling Lelouch town.

You're contradicting yourself here. You said earlier that you agreed with the Lelouch wagon, and now you're saying that he's town. Where did Lelouch suddenly become a town read to you?

Bunnylover wrote:lewarcher82 post number 274 on those two people who wanted to replace.

What was about lewarcher82's post about the replacements that were important to note? I saw nothing of note that determined any alignment. If you aren't going to say something about the post, then it is taking up space that you could have used for scum hunting.

Bunnylover wrote:Disagree with the Lelouche lynch since TheJakolope replaced in. His post seems townie trying to do anything and everything to get out of a lynch. And what he is saying has a bit of light to it, some of the voes on Lelouch were due to his outrageous behavior.

Didn't you say that you agreed on Lelouch being towny based on earlier quote? This is redundant. I also feel that you're just saying this because the slot flipped town, not because of what his play indicated.

Bunnylover wrote:TMH has lost any town read I had on him ( sad about that since Andrius is in it). His tunneling on Lelouch (not TheJakolope, Lelouch, not scummy players, Lelouch), just reads scum scum scum scum scummy scum scum, don't throw away the crappy way our easy lynch has done and someone hammer already.

Other people have said this before the flip occurred. You're clearly parroting others here.

Bunnylover wrote:What is the point of this post? To appear like your been active and helping out the town?

crazypiantist1116 discovery of this post was a factor in the slot's lynch and for good reasons. Instead of looking over the context of the post, you simply dismissed it as "He's trying to appear active and helpful!", which it wasn't at all.

Bunnylover wrote:Anyways I'm on page 18 now.

If it's going to be anything like this part of your catch-up post, then I am not looking forward to it. Your catch-up, thus far, has earned you a place on my scum list.

The last of his Day One catch-up posts is pretty much fluff, along with his Ashblade replacing out mention earlier. This does get in the way of scum hunting. Plus, if you've noticed, he's added little to be discussed. He says stuff, but as said before, doesn't elaborate on them well. His danakillsu case is also very weak. First reason for voting (The first quote of my attack on his catch-up post) is hypocritically asking danakillsu to elaborate while not explaining a majority of his posts as well. He gives out little else for why he suspects danakillsu. Inactive lurking is a null tell and should be treated as such, and danakillsu's rolefishing is so obviously blatant that it's not really easy to determine motive for it. Basically, Bunnylover doesn't have a real case on him. Classic scummy catch-up post if I do say so myself.

FoS: Bunnylover

Will not be able to post tomorrow or Wednesday, due to state tests on Math and Science. Might be able to get something out Thursday, thought, since History states tests are incredibly easy and I have no desire to study for that subject. I will, however, be back in full force by Friday.

Posted: **Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:55 pm**

@SSBF: No I believe I was saying that I agree with Pinky and the Brain in which they were talking about Mb53 calling Lelouch town. I know i worded it weird, but I was agreeing with this post:
This paticular snippet is reading quite strongly town to me, actually. Even being hounded to death, he's astute enough to realise that there's some 'incriminating' evidence on him, and yet mb is going "TOWN TOWN TOWN" with no paticuarly compelling logic, and so he's suspicious of mb. Don't think that newb-scum would do this, so I'm leaning newb-town.

On Lewarcher82 post, I was just commented that thats how I felt towards those two people who wanted to replace.

No. You misunderstood me.

Parroting? HELLO I WASN'T THEIR WHEN THAT CRAP HAPPEN. Any opinion I can have/would have could have already been stated. Should I not state what I would have said/thought at that time because someone else has already said it? Also who said that about TMH, I don't really recall anyone saying that.

No, I didn't simply dismiss it. I asked what its point what, I didn't get it point. Can you tell me what the meaning of it was?

And sadly yes its going to be like that. I'm not very good at given recaps and stuff like that, I rather much just get into the current game and what is happening. Apparently I said enough on that first quote, to get Dana to elaborate on it.
Case? I never said I had a case on Dana. I find him scummy, so I'm going to put my vote on him, but I don't have a case on him other then his weird reason for jumping on Lelouch, his lurkieness, the rolefishing thingy should just be ignored because it was blant. If I came into a game and yelled, "I AM SCUM I AM SCUM." should it be ignored because its right in the opening?

@Dana: I kinda realized where you were going with this when I was looking at Lelouch post before your vote. But it seems like you were just bandwagoning him, you yourself said that he really wasn't scummy. You said his vote hop was nothing of importance. His spamming was their, but got worse (not sure if your agreeing with this reasoning or not). So what exactly is your reason for voting Lelouch?

Posted: **Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:09 am**

Quick summary of my current thoughts:

I have 3 suspects at this time. In order, they are:

#1.

TMH

- I don't like how he attacked Lelouch, it looks scum motivated. He comes across

far

too confident in Lelouch's lynch for it to be from a town perspective. It doesn't matter how allegedly scummy Lelouch was, no pro-town player can be that confident of a day one lynch.

#2.

SSBF

- He gives me weird vibes. He's coming across as a sycophantic factotum. Like he's trying too hard to appear pro-town.

#3.

Dana

- Feels off to me. I like the points GW has raised, I too find iso #2 very unsettling. Other posts of his also rub me the wrong way, and scanning his iso, nothing of his gives me any town inclinations.

These are the flips that I am most interested in at this time. I'm yet to really become interested in this game. Some more deaths to draw out the game's theme would make it more exciting.

On Tragedy and Espeonage: Neither has impacted on me in any way to alter my reads of them from null. If one of these two are to die today, then i'm not too bothered which one.

I'm going to be spending around 12 hours traveling between cities this week, so I probably won't be able to post much.

Posted: **Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:13 am**

@ Bunnylover
Originally, it was his scummy vote. Later, he got scummier and I kept my vote on for other reasons that have been mentioned. I would have thought that would be pretty clear by now.

Posted: **Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:24 am**

I need to make a good post here. I'll focus on one tomorrow.

Posted: **Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:37 am**

Xtoxm wrote:Quick summary of my current thoughts:

I have 3 suspects at this time. In order, they are:

#1.
TMH
- I don't like how he attacked Lelouch, it looks scum motivated. He comes across
far
too confident in Lelouch's lynch for it to be from a town perspective. It doesn't matter how allegedly scummy Lelouch was, no pro-town player can be that confident of a day one lynch.

#2.
SSBF
- He gives me weird vibes. He's coming across as a sycophantic factotum. Like he's trying too hard to appear pro-town.

#3.
Dana
- Feels off to me. I like the points GW has raised, I too find iso #2 very unsettling. Other posts of his also rub me the wrong way, and scanning his iso, nothing of his gives me any town inclinations.

These are the flips that I am most interested in at this time. I'm yet to really become interested in this game. Some more deaths to draw out the game's theme would make it more exciting.

On Tragedy and Espeonage: Neither has impacted on me in any way to alter my reads of them from null. If one of these two are to die today, then i'm not too bothered which one.

I'm going to be spending around 12 hours traveling between cities this week, so I probably won't be able to post much.

::badposting::

#1 - ok, let's say he was overconfident. If "no pro-town player can be that confident of a day one lynch", how come you don't feel the need to comment on Lucresia's hammer?

#2 - I disagree on some points raised by SSBF, but I really don't see what in the hell would make him look like scum trying to appear town. SSBF is not sheeping other pro-town players, but rather posting original content.

#3 - yes, I agree on Dana, but you are saying nothing new.

Tragedy and Espeonage null: lolwut??? ok, let me just take one single example: Espeonage proposed a massnameclaim on day 1. Is this NOT scummy to you????

All in all, either your catch up is very superficial or you are ignoring a lot of stuff on purpose.

Posted: **Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:10 am**

Here, reading

Posted: **Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:45 am**

@Mb53: Where did the strong scum read on me come from?

Posted: **Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:48 am**

/prod dodge

Andrius is complaining, but he'll post something tonight.

Posted: **Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:28 am**

I asked my Mb question for a reason. Most of the reasoning I see behind suspicion of Esp stems from his actions in defending Lelouch yesterday, specifically his classification of Lelouch as town VI as opposed to scum. Something Mb also said. If Mb isn't scummy, then Esp, who has in my opinion posted better so far, also isn't scum. And don't give me this shit about needing to answer about my town reads.

Dekes wrote:In case you missed it. I don't have to get into your good graces, it's the other way around. I give out gut town reads when I see town intent as I please, thank you very much.

Tragedy has the greatest chance of flipping scum, from what I've seen. She's defaulting to playing defensive, whilst sheeping that voting bloc thing, giving me a survivalist feeling from her at best.

Posted: **Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:49 am**

So much scum in this game that need to die... adding bunny to my list, catchup post full of fluff and useless information

Tragedy wrote:@Mb53: Where did the strong scum read on me come from?

Ok, case ahoy!

Spoiler: Page by page case

TL;DR

TRagedy is doing pretty much nothing: trying to get by voting lurkers for not contributing (Har har, hypocrite), sheeps voting bloc using meh/hypocritical reasons. Also voting DBE early game was bad.

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