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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:00 am
by Charlie Kaufman
VOTE: Oscar Wilde

I have reason to disbelieve the doctor claim, this is why I wanted him to claim.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:04 am
by HP Lovecraft
Voting Log, Vol. 4 No. 2Shaft - 0
Thomas Pynchon - 0
Edgar Allan Poe - 1 (EL James)
Confucius - 0
Lemony Snicket - 1 (Paper)
Charlie Kaufman - 0
Oscar Wilde - 2 (Confucius, Kaufman)
Dr. Seuss - 0
Gertrude Stein - 5 (Poe, Wilde, Eliot, Bradley, Danielewski)
Spinning Paper -0
TS Eliot - 0
EL James - 0
Hulk Hogan - 0
God - 0
Mark Z. Danielewski - 0
Marion Zimmer Bradley - 0
Rucks - 0

Not Voting - 8 (Shaft, Pynchon, Snicket, Seuss, Hogan, God, Rucks, Stein)

With 17 alive it's 9 to lynch.

Deadline is 1/14/2013 at 5PM EST.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:04 am
by Charlie Kaufman
EBWOP: I should say, I have reason to disbelieve that there is a doctor in the setup, and it makes sense that OscarWilde-scum could claim rolecop and take a stab in the dark that there's a doctor in the setup given the lack of a kill last night. I have reason to believe a doctor wasn't the reason for the lack of a kill last night.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:15 am
by Marion Zimmer Bradley
Oh really? That is not my reading on things. Why are you anti lynching Mestra Stein? Are you by chance her scum buddy?

The Doc should not claim, but don't be so sure that there is none. After all as I said earlier, we have not found a single Goon on either team yet which means that there is the possibility of prevention of more than one kill last night.

Mestra Stein needs rope....

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:41 am
by EL James
Hulk Hogan wrote:
EL James wrote:OOC: Super sorry again. All on me and my stupidity.

After the much unprecedented break I took with Christian, mostly due to his ideas, I take my seat to get back to work. I notice a few details that I am fearful of while we are in a spirit of prosperity by eliminating two dangerous men. "Mr. Rucks, are you hiding?" I ask as look at him oddly. He had been absent for almost a month now! I don't think he was into the slaving business but I'm not the smartest gal around (n.b. Bella is).

I'd like to bring to the light something that Mr. Bradley quoted:

Jane Austen wrote:Can people argue over whether Seuss is here; that he is hiding, and waiting? The so honorable Poe is still definitely scum, though I'm not voting him, because my suspicions of Seuss have been vindicated; I feel they have been at least.


Now Miss Austen flipped scum (quite accordingly! Only one woman should be in this game!), however the honorable Mr. Poe is still living. Perhaps I'm missing something here but this seems like a bad dodge toward attacking him. No?

Unvote, Vote: Edgar Allen Poe


Hold on, now, sister. You're gonna tell me that Gertrude Stein tries to deflect the town off James Joyce's death (by accusing someone of the very thing The Big Double J was accused of), we've got two dudes roleclaiming Role Cop, and all you can think to do is dig up tired old chestnuts from two days ago?

At least put a little bit of effort into it, man.
I acknowledge this idea and refute it. "Wouldn't it better to take a safer step? I mean I understand your point that there's a 50% chance of hitting scum here but wouldn't you want to take something that looks more like 51%?" I say toward the large hulking man. We both had a lot in common. I blush.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:17 am
by Hulk Hogan
Confucius wrote:I also do not believe that you are actually forgetting about this game. Since you have a main account, you are therefore on MafiaScum, and as a result the fact that you are in a large game is not a fact that should continue to elude you. If you continue to lurk and use "forgot about it" as an excuse, I will assume you are scum using your alt as a shield against participating.


((OOC, If this is referring to me, I have never, not once EVER lurked as scum, and I do have a main account although I was retired until asked to join this game. In fact, at the time I joined this game as Fred Phelps, I had probably not logged onto MafiaScum for the better part of a month. Unlike DGB, I don't sign up for alts and link my primary email address.))

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:23 am
by Hulk Hogan
EL James wrote:I acknowledge this idea and refute it. "Wouldn't it better to take a safer step? I mean I understand your point that there's a 50% chance of hitting scum here but wouldn't you want to take something that looks more like 51%?" I say toward the large hulking man. We both had a lot in common. I blush.


A safer step, sister? No, the safest step for all Real Americans would be to lynch the person that voted somebody while ignoring the exact same behavior on confirmed scum, man. That's Ms. Stein for you. An even safer step would be to figure out if one of these boys in blue is lying. I believe Confucius. His claim came at a time when he thought he'd caught scum, sister. But Wilde, now there's a slippery little worm. There's a guy who I'm not quite sure if all the pieces are adding up.

Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:17 pm
by OscarWilde
"Mr. Kaufman, I cannot say that the doctor is responsible for the no kill or that the doctor is even a friend, but I have chosen to give the doctor the benefit of the doubt and not expose him or her before there is consent or sufficient demand. I will confirm that there is at least one doctor among us. I will not confirm or deny anything short of his or her full identity. Until it becomes important I will continue to hold this information."

He turned his attention to the philosopher. "I greeted my fellow guests. "Good morning" in this context means simply "Good morning."

OOC:

Hulk, Confucius is a Prostitute, not a Role Cop. His role has some information gathering ability, but it is primarily a Roleblocker. I don't know anybody's alignment and there has been no reason for me to claim except that Confucius has claimed and brought attention to it. I do not know how much information Confucius got about me, but I can tell you with absolutely certainty that we are both telling the truth about our roles. The only question remaining is our alignments. I am town. I believe that Confucius is also town. I understand his suspicions of me. Unless there is a town roleblocker I would not advocate lynching Confucius. I have not intentionally hinted at my role or results. Good morning is a common enough first post and gladiator is an obscure enough role that I didn't really connect the fact that it could be construed as hinting. I had figured that I was roleblocked and I knew most of the town would interpret the other opening that way if they were at all thinking of what roles the rest of us might have. I had no idea that it was Confucius who roleblocked me until he mentioned that he's a Prostitute.

Our roles are not in conflict. I do not see why Confucius would come out as scum, so I think the reason he has a bonus power is that this game runs serious risk of town getting bogged down in flavor. Seeing as he is primarily a roleblocker, if he's scum he has to be with Shakespeare since Jane Austen and James Joyce were a roleblocker and a JOAT (which often has a roleblock included) so there's no room for a prostitute. The fact that Hulk Hogan is pushing the idea that they conflict is starting to make me suspicious of him. I'd like to believe that he's just not understanding what Confucius and I are saying, but it's getting ridiculous at this point.

I need to make another correction. I was just on my main and my PM doesn't actually have the role name on it, just the power. Our host PMed me to tell me the correct name of my role. Apparently it is Role Cop. The point I was making with stressing flavor is that I don't get to know alignment. It was after being on the wiki for a U-Pick and reading about the distinction between the two. Then I got confused. Did anybody else not have their role name listed in the PM? I get roles, no alignments.

Kaufman, what are you thinking caused the no kill? If you accept that Hulk Hogan is a Mafia Fruit Vendor, there is still one mafia kill to account for. I got a result last night which says there's a doctor in this game. Another town roleblocker? One mafia deciding to NK? Both if Hulk Hogan is innocent? If I'm town and I think that a town doc makes more sense than a scum doc, why should I out the doc before he or she is ready? Even if I die without outing them my town flip will tell you that there absolutely is a doctor and the only thing you'll need to worry about is a potential counterclaim situation, which should give you a scum flip since two town doctors is just insane.

In other news, I'm starting to consider sheeping Spinning Paper. He was onto Jane Austen and Shakespeare pretty early. The fact that he pushed both of those demonstrates that despite his post volume he's scumhunting and isn't doing too bad a job of it. I would encourage him to post a little more OOC though since his headlines aren't the most persuasive way to communicate scum reads.

My medication is starting to kick in, so I'm going to end this here and think more about it later. Please feel free to ask me for clarification of anything that didn't make sense.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:35 am
by T S Eliot
Mr. Wilde, are you obfuscating?

OOC: Apologies, must be V/LA til Monday. Hopefully I will be able to get actual posts in during that stretch.

Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:14 am
by Charlie Kaufman
INT. DARKENED APARTMENT - DAY


There's a KNOCK on the door of the apartment. A muffled voice shouts from the other side.

PAULA GARNER

Charlie? Charlie? Are you in there? Answer your phone!


Silence. Paula swings the door open and GOLDEN RAYS OF SUNLIGHT stream through the door, illuminating the clouds of dust in the apartment. Paula fumbles around for a moment before finding a light switch.

PAULA GARNER

Oh my god...


The room is filled with various empty Chinese takeout boxes and stacked with paper in little piles. Paula stumbles through the room, mouth agape. She makes her way over to a whiteboard, where Charlie has written things about each person in the game. Lines are drawn connecting different people to each other. She can barely make out some of the scribbles:

THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY IS
POISONOUUUSSSSSSSS
? OR A BENEVOLENT DEITY ?

MARK. DANIEL. LEWIS. SKI. GOOD MAN. STRONG MAN. FINDS THE BAD GUY. LEADER. WILL LIKELY TAKE A BULLET, BE THE TRAGIC FIGURE.

OSCAR WILDE
killkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkill
killkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkill
killkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkill
killkillkillkillkillkillkill
LIAR
killkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkillkill
killkillkillkillkillkillkill
killkillkillkillkillkillkillkill


HULK HOGAN. LOUD. LOOOOUUUUUD! MAKE LOUDER!


Paula steps past it all in shock and awe, unsure of what she is witnessing. She stops for a moment when she notices the bedroom door cracked. Paula uneasily walks towards the door.

PAULA GARNER

...Charlie? Are you in there?


As she walks in the door, she finds Charlie sitting on the edge of his bed. She flips on the light. His head snaps her direction, and we see an EXTREME CLOSE UP of his pupils dilated nearly to the size of his entire iris.

PAULA GARNER

Jesus! Fuck! Charlie, what the fuck?

CHARLIE KAUFMAN

I'm close. Very close. So close. Story must be perfect, must work, I needed to be perfect. My mind. I opened it. I can write. This story. You read it, right? I can write it good. So good.

PAULA GARNER

Christ. What did you do?

CHARLIE KAUFMAN

LSD.

PAULA GARNER

(exasperated)
I better get someone over here to watch you.

CHARLIE KAUFMAN

You stay. We can finish this story together.

PAULA GARNER

Are you fucking kidding me, Charlie? I have things to do, what the Christ are you doing dropping acid in the middle of the day? Better snap out of it, Charlie, you've got a deadline. I swear to god, if this fucks over the development window because you're tripping on acid and can't finish the script, your career is over.


She turns and leaves the room, flipping through her cell phone to find someone to come watch Charlie while he comes down from his acid trip.




Slight V/LA until January 5th.

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:28 am
by Lemony Snicket
ooc: I need to look at the claims, and the events of today in general. My computer is getting fixed and I hopefully will have it later today, so expect something from me tonight or tomorrow.

I think Stein is scum, so if I decide that both Wilde and Confucius are town, I will vote her.

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:45 am
by Thomas Pynchon
Out of character, since I am away from home with no books to consult, but I might manage to not end up completely myself.

I don't think that Confucius and Wilde are counter-claiming each other, but I am worried by the closeness of their roles, though they remain a definite distance apart. It's a situation, that may be illuminated by the moonlight. I did not think that either was scum before this.

Stein dies. If you need a reason the reactionary and thoughtless nature of 552 should
do
the
trick
.

Vote: Gerturude Stein

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:11 am
by Spinning Paper
Snicket, claim in your next post.

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:08 am
by Edgar Allan Poe
OOC: Sorry I have been kind of slacking on this game, will get to it soon.

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:07 pm
by Marion Zimmer Bradley
ooc:

Some people need to get in here and POST (and hopefully vote for Stein who is scummy).

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:02 am
by OscarWilde
"Mr Elliot, I have been completely forthcoming about myself, and I have been open about my wish to protect the doctor's privacy. Revealing the doctor's identity makes them a target. Revealing the name but not the role also makes them a target in that it reveals that I consider the information worth holding onto. Disclosing that I know who the doctor is only endangers myself, as I can prove or disprove claims of medical expertise. Until such a time when the doctor's death is clamored for or that it becomes more beneficial for us to know than it is for our enemies to not know, I'd prefer to keep that information."

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:07 am
by Charlie Kaufman
INT. WAREHOUSE - UNKNOWN TIME


MARION

Everyone vote for Stein!

CHARLIE KAUFMAN

But...we have Oscar Wilde's incredibly unlikely claim to deal with! He's obviously lying or making some parts of it--

SPINNING PAPER

Hey, Snicket, you should claim.

EL JAMES

Hulk Hogan is a poop head.

HULK HOGAN

No, you.

CHARLIE KAUFMAN

Uh...guys...these claims...

OSCAR WILDE

Hey, I'm rolefishing! Look at me go!

CHARLIE KAUFMAN

You know what...fuck it. She's lurking in the shadows anyway, you can have my vote, nobody is listening to a goddamn word I say anyway. We can figure this shit out later.





VOTE: Gertrude Stein

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:38 am
by Hulk Hogan
You know something, brother, if there's one thing I've learned in my years of travelling the highways and byways, it's that no man is an island, brother. Not even the Hulkster. So I'm going to bring in a guest star now and then to help me express my opinions, dude. Because a whole lot of heads are better than one man.

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The Iron Sheik sez:

"Fuck the Hulk Hogan %100000. I put him in camel clutch, break his back, make him humble.
Fuck the Gertrude Stein she post less than Nobody Special on a cold day.
Oscar Wilde fuck himself old country way, not understand why people doubt him. I spit on him.
Charlie Kaufman good Jew, I let him fuck my sister call him my brother
Bradley is easy read, he better than Ric Flair fuck the Ric Flair.
Shaft, Dr. Seuss, TS Eliot, Lemony Snicket and Lord God all hiding like scared little children like the Mark Sanchez run from pass rush."

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The Hulkster Sez:

Thanks brother, couldn't have said it better... I think. Anyway, we're not fully on board with OscarWilde here, man, and we don't like that he tries to paint it as suspicious that people suspect him. (damn, maybe I should just let the Sheik do my talking), but the fact is, brother Gertrude Stein is scum. Not only that, but she's perfectly willing to sit on the sidelines and let the town tear into one another claiming left and right, man. Well I've had enough of that, brothers.

Vote: Gertrude Stein

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:40 am
by Lemony Snicket
ooc: Computer didn't come back yesterday as I hoped. Sorry for the delay. I did look at Wilde's/Confucius' ISOs.

Spinning Paper wrote:Snicket, claim in your next post.


Only a fool, a dunce, or an octopus would claim their role while having no reason to. And the Spinning Paper telling me to is not a reason.

As my associate Daniel Handler said above, I looked into the claims. The only thing that makes me uncomfortable and slightly queasy is Wilde stating he was a role cop, then a flavor cop, then a role cop. Very curious.

Stein is the bigger villain, criminal, or bad person.

PEDIT: However, I see that Hogan has put her one vote within a hammer. So I ask her to claim, and I declare intent to cast her out of this meeting.

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:18 pm
by Marion Zimmer Bradley
Metra Stein we need to hear from you as you promised. Time to claim....

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:20 pm
by Marion Zimmer Bradley
EBWOP

Mestra not Metra


ooc I have a hand injury and it is like I have to relearn how to type. sorry about that.

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:48 pm
by Gertrude Stein
Although my words might be misconstrued through lack of clarity or sense, I must inform everyone present that I am nothing of any great power or concern, I am but a lowly townsperson, unable to do anything save for voting.

You may remove your votes now.

Grammar.

Vote: Oscar the Wilde man

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:04 pm
by Marion Zimmer Bradley
Such humility from Mestra Stein... (sarcasm). I think not.. My vote stays on you, you Terran spy.

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:32 pm
by Spinning Paper
Lemony Snicket arrested and charged with attempted murder.

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:33 pm
by Thomas Pynchon
Vote: Lemony Snicket