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~Vote Count XVI

Antagon (5)

~ Katsuki, Pjovek, hp [leaves], Zdenek, enomis

MattP (3)

~ Tammy, Tierce, Zachrulez

Zachrulez (2)

~ implosion, Syryana

fferyllt (1)

~ MattP

Pjovek (1)

~ sword_of_omens

Not Voting:

fferyllt, Antagon, Oversoul

In post 605, fferyllt wrote:Was the bolded ever answered?

No.
Although I made my suspicions for the answer clear after she linked me to Mafia with the Kitties. Look through my iso. It is the first big post in a sea of shorter posts.

I talk about the possible set-up there.

In post 611, Katsuki wrote:This is implying that you have other possible actions that you can take... and given what you're claiming, that shouldn't be the case?

Why did it take you this long to reach this obvious conclusion?

Either way, I think the correct action is to flush Poo seeing as there is no way we would be able to get information on his role unless he targets the killer and the killer targets him which is pretty... unlikely especially now that he claimed?

Also, what exactly does Poo have to do with the Sky, Antagon?

In post 615, Tammy wrote:...so HP leaves said he was going to contribute soon. 36 hours ago. Did he actually do anything?

He lives in Turkey which is quite the place not to be, so take that into consideration.
He also just came off a week long V/LA which absolutely no posts so also take that into consideration. (b")

Also, replacements murder the battery.

@oversoul: And yet you are not voting for poo.

In post 628, enomis wrote:@oversoul: And yet you are not voting for poo.

And yet I was until he claimed.
And yet I realized the implications of the wording of his role before you or Katsuki.
And yet I unvoted at that time.
And yet you can't read.

Or at least don't like to.

In post 629, Oversoul wrote:

In post 628, enomis wrote:@oversoul: And yet you are not voting for poo.

And yet I was until he claimed.
And yet I realized the implications of the wording of his role before you or Katsuki.
And yet I unvoted at that time.
And yet you can't read.

Or at least don't like to.

All you did was" I need to think about this".

Explain your unvote since you already 'realized' the implications of the wording and you think the correct action was to lynch him.

In post 581, Tammy wrote:OS, where's your paranoia? Has that evaporated from your play? You just finished a game where you and Tierce were partners, right? You're not paranoid of her at all?

Well at least this makes you more than likely town. I guess you could say that I am not as paranoid as I was in months past mainly because I don't give a fuck after being mislynched twice (not going into this look it up for yourself) but also because I am not being very public about my opinions?

I guess paranoia is still apart of my game (see First Time Mafia Neighbor QT with regards to Inducting DrippingGoofBall into the Best Neighborhood Ever) but that makes me ask you a question. Do you find paranoia and suspicion to be mutually exclusive? I wouldn't say that I am exactly "paranoid" about Tierce but I am definitely suspicious. I think my posts show that mentality quite well actually. :shrug:

In post 596, Tammy wrote:

In post 28, Oversoul wrote: Whimsical Eggplant, are you Mastin

Why did you ask this when in the sign up thread after you asked whose alt he was, he told you noones just an old account he forgot the information of?

Long story short, the post wasn't trying to deduce alignment. It was for my general knowledge.
I think I was right though. Either that or it was Tar. :shrug:

In post 597, Tammy wrote:Oh before I forget I'm rethinking both of my zach and OS leaning town reads.

Oh dear Tammy, this is where we start to have problems.
Are you starting to renege your town read on me because I'm not obviously paranoid and I asked Whimsical a game irrelevant question?

pedit:

Thought process about the unvote was... I need to think about this!

I had similar thoughts to Zach about the claim being too strong for it to be scum. Then I had thoughts about the wording not making sense and it being a fakeclaim. Then I noticed something else that Antagon posted that made go back to thinking the claim might be town.

I still haven't made up my mind but there is a lot of misunderstanding going on with that slot I think.
I'd be curious to know if anyone else saw the "something else that Antagon posted". I think it is quite obvious but no one made a comment about it yet.

If I had to go with a lynch right now I think I would let Antagon die but there is just a lot of set-up spec going through my mind that I'm not sure I want to follow.

In post 629, Oversoul wrote: But in a game where the death of one role makes it Night for the rest of the game...

You mean this?

In post 579, Antagon wrote: But in a game where the death of one role makes it Night for the rest of the game...

The above post was a quote fail.

You had me second guessing myself there, enomis.

But yes, that is it.
Since you found it, I'd like to hear your thoughts on it. I have my own. And I'll post them within the hour, but I do want discussion on that post.

I just wanted its discovery to be naturally found by someone else.

In post 619, Tammy wrote:
...I did. It struck me as weird the first time I read it through, but I figured I missed something. I think it's pretty obvious I reread most of the game tonight and no it didn't strike me as natural this time either. Feel free to point me to what I missed.

You're making a mountain of a molehill here.

Or not...

I'm not voting Antagon.

Fery, where the hell are you at? I see you skulking round here. Come talk to me about your current reads.

Oh hi! I've been hoping you'd show up.

I'm kinda concerned about hp_leaves and SoO after rereading last night.

I had forgotten why I thought Oversoul was town, but rereading, I feel pretty good about him being town.

zachrules has posted quite a bit. I can't decide if I just disagree with him frequently or he's coming to the game with a different motivation.

In post 635, Zachrulez wrote:

In post 619, Tammy wrote:
...I did. It struck me as weird the first time I read it through, but I figured I missed something. I think it's pretty obvious I reread most of the game tonight and no it didn't strike me as natural this time either. Feel free to point me to what I missed.

You're making a mountain of a molehill here.

I'm not making anything. I asked you a question as I'm trying to clear up my read on you. If I missed something, why didn't you just point it out?

In post 579, Antagon wrote: But in a game where the death of one role makes it Night for the rest of the game...

@oversoul: What you want me to say about this? Probably he mistook it that death of the apocalypse role would make it night for the rest of the day? Well, both scum and town would make a mistake with this. I don't see the point of you bringing up this post.

In post 638, fferyllt wrote:Oh hi! I've been hoping you'd show up.

I'm kinda concerned about hp_leaves and SoO after rereading last night.

I had forgotten why I thought Oversoul was town, but rereading, I feel pretty good about him being town.

zachrules has posted quite a bit. I can't decide if I just disagree with him frequently or he's coming to the game with a different motivation.

I agree; I don't like sword either. Why hp leaves? Didn't he replace bungle (who you had a townread on)? What are you trying to say about zach (like, do you think he's scummy, null, what don't you like about him)?

In post 640, enomis wrote:

In post 579, Antagon wrote: But in a game where the death of one role makes it Night for the rest of the game...

@oversoul: What you want me to say about this? Probably he mistook it that death of the apocalypse role would make it night for the rest of the day? Well, both scum and town would make a mistake with this. I don't see the point of you bringing up this post.

I thought he was claiming that he was the guy that starts Apocalypse if killed. Am I misreading?

TAMMY

Come dance with me some more

It can be on a dancefloor not laced with mines this time

@syrana: I think he meant since the apocalypse role make it forever night if the role died, therefore, town should have a fking OP role. If not, scum would just win.

W

In post 639, Tammy wrote:

In post 635, Zachrulez wrote:

In post 619, Tammy wrote:
...I did. It struck me as weird the first time I read it through, but I figured I missed something. I think it's pretty obvious I reread most of the game tonight and no it didn't strike me as natural this time either. Feel free to point me to what I missed.

You're making a mountain of a molehill here.

I'm not making anything. I asked you a question as I'm trying to clear up my read on you. If I missed something, why didn't you just point it out?

No I mean you're making too big a deal of that particular action. The game started on the weekend and I had other things on my mind so I felt I should explain that my early play came from very limited attention to the game. I don't even get how you think that has scum motivation, because it would make more sense to wait till I actually get called out for it before I defend myself from it. It's like you're reading through my play and Something that isn't there. Seriously if you have any doubts about your read of me go read 160B again.

@syr: post your opinion of antangon?

In post 641, Syryana wrote:I agree; I don't like sword either. Why hp leaves? Didn't he replace bungle (who you had a townread on)? What are you trying to say about zach (like, do you think he's scummy, null, what don't you like about him)?

Even though he didn't give a reason, the timing of mrbungle's 2nd vote on me fit and even sort of anticipated later reactions. hp leave's unvote is equally unreasoned, and he's not interacted at all with other players and just focused (shallowly imo) on two of the current main issues: MattP and Antagon.

The one thing that I really like about hp's posts is 551

I'll post about zachrules in a bit. I'm still isoing him.

SYRYANA

I just woke up and haven't stretched yet. Something slow? Like a waltz?

I mean it's like you would have preferred I say nothing there and try to skate by? I have no idea what your expectations are there.

In post 643, Zachrulez wrote: No I mean you're making too big a deal of that particular action. The game started on the weekend and I had other things on my mind so I felt I should explain that my early play came from very limited attention to the game. I don't even get how you think that has scum motivation, because it would make more sense to wait till I actually get called out for it before I defend myself from it. It's like you're reading through my play and

trying to find something.

Something that isn't there. Seriously if you have any doubts about your read of me go read 160B again.

I was trying to find something. I was trying to find something that made me think my first impulse was correct...that you're probably town. Every time I ask a question it's not an attack or me going aha scum! If something strikes me as odd, I usually point it out or ask something about it. And I did find it odd that you felt the need to explain, mostly because it reflects a heightened sense of how people are perceiving you. Even that doesn't necessarily make you scum. I was starting to doubt my initial read a little and was trying to work through that. I like this response to me though.

In post 642, enomis wrote:@syrana: I think he meant since the apocalypse role make it forever night if the role died, therefore, town should have a fking OP role. If not, scum would just win.

W

Makes sense.

In post 644, enomis wrote:@syr: post your opinion of antangon?

I don't think we should lynch him. His role if true is pretty powerful and I think there are better candidates out there atm (sword of omens and fferyllt particularly, but many of my reads are stale which I'm attempting to fix). I'll give you a more detailed answer after some ISOs.

In post 645, fferyllt wrote:Even though he didn't give a reason, the timing of mrbungle's 2nd vote on me fit and even sort of anticipated later reactions.

I don't see this at all.

In post 645, fferyllt wrote:hp leave's unvote is equally unreasoned, and he's not interacted at all with other players and just focused (shallowly imo) on two of the current main issues: MattP and Antagon.

Upon ISO skim of hp, his unvote was when he replaced in. Why should he give reasons for unvoting from whatever his predecessor was doing? Why does that make him scummy?

The point about hp being shallow and only focusing on mattp/antagon isn't bad, but hp's thought process is pretty clear IMO. From what I've seen of scumHP (and don't ask me to elaborate, I can't), hp doesn't have a clear thought process as scum.

Are those your only two scumreads?

In post 646, Tammy wrote:SYRYANA

I just woke up and haven't stretched yet. Something slow? Like a waltz?