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In post 621, Rebel Without a Pulse wrote:Wait, what do your reads look like?

You disagree about dessew?

Titus for DB's scumbuddy.

Her last post looked very much like "ugh I really really don't want to lynch him so I'll just sit my vote here"

Gonna parrot RT- this is pretty much the first time she's mentioned me. Convenient after the first time I call her out for not mentioning like half the playerlist.

ns wrote:Her last post looked very much like "ugh I really really don't want to lynch him so I'll just sit my vote here"

eh, considering she said she'd hammer DB later, i don't really see this.

that said, i don't really understand the vote, since it's not like people are just gonna go, "oh fuck, yeah, totally see the light, let's disband the DB wagon!"

I disagree.

I've seen scum say "I want to lynch x but will hammer my scumbuddy at dl so we have a lynch."

In post 627, Rail Tracer wrote:

ns wrote:Her last post looked very much like "ugh I really really don't want to lynch him so I'll just sit my vote here"

eh, considering she said she'd hammer DB later, i don't really see this.

that said, i don't really understand the vote, since it's not like people are just gonna go, "oh fuck, yeah, totally see the light, let's disband the DB wagon!"

I am a stubborn bitch. I will pursue who I want lynched to hell or high water but lynch who I feel the need to when the time comes.

Yet you've only voted one person- me.

You left your predecessor's vote yet

Yeah, Titus is scum.

In post 629, Titus wrote:

In post 627, Rail Tracer wrote:

ns wrote:Her last post looked very much like "ugh I really really don't want to lynch him so I'll just sit my vote here"

eh, considering she said she'd hammer DB later, i don't really see this.

that said, i don't really understand the vote, since it's not like people are just gonna go, "oh fuck, yeah, totally see the light, let's disband the DB wagon!"

I am a stubborn bitch. I will pursue who I want lynched to hell or high water but lynch who I feel the need to when the time comes.

Where was the pursuit?

It's now. I am pushing NS to be lynched.

I have pushed to figure out RT's alignment and further draw attention to RT, NS. Please stop with the misreps. My fingers are tired of typing that word.

Prove both.

Direct quotes.

In post 632, Titus wrote:It's now. I am pushing NS to be lynched.

RT's sig wrote:

"It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back."

@NS, my first substantive post and 513.

SoS, maybe some of the lurkers will vote ns. If no one votes him in an hour or so, I will resign to hammering db.

In post 513, Titus wrote:Rail Tracer's opening is scummh. The refusal to answer questions will almost always irk me unless the questions are pointless and loaded. I don't know where RT stands though. He also asks for reads early on. Bleh. I will put him at a null now but it is a generous null and I will read again in the morning. For now my vote remains as no one screams scum at me.

Yup.

Totally.

You sure showed me.

Ohwait.

Nice try, scumfuck.

Yes that is me trying to figure out rt. Not to mention I have been in the game all of a day or two ns. Your argument is looking more like a strawman.

In post 447, Cabd wrote:

Titus replaces Fuzdun

Vote Count of the First City, Seventh Block

Players Alive: 13
Votes to Lynch: 7
Format of:
Wagon (size): Voters on wagon

Rail Tracer (1): Titus
Mogamma (1): Mario and the Diamonds
Notscience (1): artemiskitty
Titus (1): Dessew,
Dessew (1): Notscience
Daniel Bryan (4): Rebel Without a Pulse, Rail Tracer. Brian Skies, Sound of Silence
Brian Skies (1): Daniel Bryan
Natirasha (1): Humble Poirot
Mario and the Diamonds (1): Mogamma
Not voting:Natirasha

Deadline for Day One falls on: 9/30/13 which is (expired on 2013-09-23 19:00:00)

In post 638, Cabd wrote:

Vote Count of the First City, Eleventh Block

Players Alive: 13
Votes to Lynch: 7
Format of:
Wagon (size): Voters on wagon

Rail Tracer (2): Titus, Daniel Bryan (L-5)
Dessew (1): Notscience (L-6)

Daniel Bryan (6): Rebel Without a Pulse, Rail Tracer. Brian Skies, Sound of Silence, Natirasha, Dessew (L-1)

Natirasha (1): Humble Poirot (L-6)
Mario and the Diamonds (1): Mogamma (L-6)
notscience (2): artemiskitty, titus (L-5)
Not voting: Mario and the Diamonds

Deadline for Day One falls on: 9/23/13 which is (expired on 2013-09-23 19:00:00)

Mod notes:

~HP is being force-replaced per listmod order.
~Mogamma has around 9 hours left to respond to the prod
~I will extend the night deadline to find replacements if need be.
~Nacho thinks he's so cute, heh

Timestamp on these posts says otherwise.

You have yet to actively pursue any "scumreads" until the very last moment of the day.

Titus, exactly what point is ns strawmanning?

If you can't explain that, I'll consider that you're using one of the "lolexcuses."

lolexcuses being
1. OMGUS
2. PoE
3. Misrep/Strawman
4. WIFOM
5. Tonality

Without any proper follow-up/explanation.

SoS, is that like a wiki thing?

No, it's the lists I got from my mafia experiences.

SoS, NS is "strawmanning" his allegation that I am not scumhunting. I point out where I was. He laughs it off. He's expecting something much deeper and inconsistent with gameplay on day one, especially from someone who just replaced in, or he's totally just rejecting anything I respond to his questions.

In post 643, Titus wrote:SoS, NS is "strawmanning" his allegation that I am not scumhunting. I point out where I was. He laughs it off. He's expecting something much deeper and inconsistent with gameplay on day one, especially from someone who just replaced in, or he's totally just rejecting anything I respond to his questions.

Inconsistent with day 1 play? What does that even mean?

Four day 1 replace-ins, two of which are mine. All but one were late day 1, with 4 or fewer days to nightfall. I don't remember how much time was left on the clock in the second link, but I replaced in on page 10, had 3 scumspects within a half hour of replacing, and had it narrowed down to two within a half hour of that. These were all 9 player games.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p4943712 - scum lynched on day 1

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p4860485 - vote down within an hour of replace-in, vote was on scum

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p4878084 - longest newbie day 1 on record at the time of the game, and I don't think that record has been broken. VE was aggressively scumhunting from his second post onward.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go - scum lynched on day 1

I'll take your word on those games. The biggest thing is all of those are nine player games. This has a lot more players to read, dynamics to interpret and posts to analyze. I'm thinking NS won't be satisified unless I put a huge wall with all the reasons that RT was scum. It's too early for that. No one has the content level for that, because it is day 1. I've just now gotten to the point where I have a major suspect, NS and I can push that tomorrow, because let's face it I'm not getting an NS lynch.

Again, all of your newbie games were very long with a lot of time and posts to figure things out. I'm not really having either so the comparison is apples to oranges, completely.

The last game was not a Newbie. And the first two were not super long. In one case I had 10 pages of data, and in the other case I had 15 pages of data when I replaced in. You had a similar amount of data to work with, and you had 4 additional players. Having 80 pages to read in 3-4 days (with another 20 pages being added as you get up to speed) doesn't make it easier to scumhunt. Actually, to the contrary.



That's four replacements by three different, players, two of which I won't hesitate to call strong players. You can decide for yourself what sort of player I am.

That's the point it's you. On Day 1, I find it impossible to be certain who is scum unless someone slips or fabricates a case out of thin air (like ns is doing). NS's case is that I'm not scumhunting is total bullshit. I don't have to be confident my suspects are scum in order to scumhunt. Day 1 to me is about laying the ground work, seeing who does what, and observing behavior. Generally, it is not ZOMG this person is so scum and I am so sure of it.

Hammering in an hour and a half as I have a very full schedule tomorrow. Get your questions in now.