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I'm too tired to give a more substantial response to Tammy, but if you'd said all this in the first place, Faraday and I would have been a lot less tetchy in response.

Frankly, sometimes I feel like I'm in a never-ending arms race between my scum and town game when I play with people I know well. I can't look obvtown every second. I can't always have a breaking strategy or concern myself with appearances or be attentive to every single detail in the thread or always be emotional/spontaneous/whatever it is "town Mina" sounds like. And after a certain point, there's only so much I can up the ante by. There isn't anything I can do to defend against a case like that other than say, "Well, yeah, I fake my town meta decently sometimes. So I guess...just be lucky I got a town PM?" I also think you're overrating my skill as town. You said I have overblown expectations of you--don't you think the reverse is true if you're attacking me for not having broken the entire game in twenty-four hours? (I mean, I'm perfectly happy with the ratio of scumhunting-to-theory-discussion I've done this game.)

Faraday can answer the thing about Voidedmafia and Lord Mhork himself, since I don't think I've played much with Voided and am not sure of his skill level.

I'm curious to know why Syryana is scumreading us, though. He doesn't know anything about our scum meta.

@Mhork: our push on you was real. If we're talking about the same thing, then I was asking why you were calling us scum but also seemed to believe we had actual conviction in our push on you. I'm also kind of curious to why you decided to single out BBmolla on your wagon. Beyond that, that's it.

@upside down: we decided not to advertise anything, which was a mistake.

I singled out BBMolla 'cause he was all 'hey everyone let's just lynch Mhork.' At least that's what I remember seeing. This game is moving really quickly.

And I have been wavering with my read on you guys. It's tough. On one hand I get blinded when people are dicks to me. However as I'm seeing more of your posting, the stuff not directed towards being a dick to me is looking better.

I think I'm still voting you so

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Zdenek

I think there's totally time to make this happen.

Oh, I'm going to bed, but just want to say I liked this paragraph from Mhork:

@Butterfly: I...could have sworn that Pyro had said something along the lines of why would you bid $80 rather than $100 for an item if it was just to keep it out of scum's hands. To me that made perfect sense and I was waiting for you to answer it. Digging back through those posts, apparently I managed to cross upside's "Did you think $80 would be enough to keep it from scum?" and something from Pyro, I think the post where they say that they put $100 on neighborizer. Also are you saying your push on me wasn't real? It sure felt real from my perspective.

P-edit: that was a crosspost. No one's going to follow you there, Mhork.

In post 626, Lord Mhork wrote:I singled out BBMolla 'cause he was all 'hey everyone let's just lynch Mhork.' At least that's what I remember seeing. This game is moving really quickly.

And I have been wavering with my read on you guys. It's tough. On one hand I get blinded when people are dicks to me. However as I'm seeing more of your posting, the stuff not directed towards being a dick to me is looking better.

I think I'm still voting you so

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Zdenek

I think there's totally time to make this happen.

Holy super-late OMGUS, batman!

What do you mean by crosspost?

And what does that even mean, morph?

</being a dick to fulfill my win condition of being a jester>

Actually, I just ISO'd Zdenek, and he's not as town as I remembered.

In post 443, Zdenek wrote:

In post 44, Lost Butterfly wrote:Also, I think everyone should claim if they advertised or what they advertised on. Not the actual amount.

medium

Why did you advertise medium of all the roles on the list?

Same goes for upside down. If you were going to choose two roles to advertise, Cop makes sense for one, but why medium for the other? Also, I asked you about Nacho before because that's a really odd scum read for this point of the game. Instead of brushing me off, can you elaborate on why you were even considering a Garuda vote?

p-edit: just replace "crosspost" with "ninja'd" and it'll make sense.

We advertized Neighborizer and Bid on Neighborizer btw, we got nothing tho.

@Ffery: Nat is enjoying Pokemon because he trusts me I guess even tho I spent all night playing Terraria

he trusts you to blindly sheep nacho?

In post 631, Harakiri wrote:We advertized Neighborizer and Bid on Neighborizer btw, we got nothing tho.

@Ffery: Nat is enjoying Pokemon because he trusts me I guess even tho I spent all night playing Terraria

Is Nati unaware of the deadline change?

In post 633, morph the cat wrote:

In post 631, Harakiri wrote:We advertized Neighborizer and Bid on Neighborizer btw, we got nothing tho.

@Ffery: Nat is enjoying Pokemon because he trusts me I guess even tho I spent all night playing Terraria

Is Nati unaware of the deadline change?

Not sure, I'll tell him in the QT anyway.

In post 634, Harakiri wrote:

In post 633, morph the cat wrote:

In post 631, Harakiri wrote:We advertized Neighborizer and Bid on Neighborizer btw, we got nothing tho.

@Ffery: Nat is enjoying Pokemon because he trusts me I guess even tho I spent all night playing Terraria

Is Nati unaware of the deadline change?

Not sure, I'll tell him in the QT anyway.

I'm stunned.

In post 623, zMuffinMan wrote:@upside down,

you bet <=$2 on medium and extra vote?

that's right

In post 629, Lord Mhork wrote:And what does that even mean, morph?

don't tell me you don't know what omgus stands for either

You don't have to be a dick about it

And yes I know what that means. I'm wondering what he by it

In post 630, Lost Butterfly wrote:Why did you advertise medium of all the roles on the list?

Same goes for upside down. If you were going to choose two roles to advertise, Cop makes sense for one, but why medium for the other? Also, I asked you about Nacho before because that's a really odd scum read for this point of the game. Instead of brushing me off, can you elaborate on why you were even considering a Garuda vote?

I originally wanted Medium so I could talk to dead scum and try to trick them into telling me their partners, but then I realised that wouldn't work because scum wouldn't actually be that dumb. And also I reread all the abilities and you have to predict who dies. We should have advertised Accountant instead.

In post 495, Lost Butterfly wrote:BBmolla, a response to my questions on you from before would be nice.

Direct me to them please.

Mhork's post was okay admittedly. But I think part of it is I believe he's genuine in his night actions, which doesn't mean town. (Someone do the math, at 100 starting does doing what he did end up 89? Just checking)

Yeah okay let's do this instead

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Voided

It's fine if you think I'm scum Mina, but lynching me today would be a terrible waste of money.

In post 504, Lost Butterfly wrote:My read is pending on how he answers a few things, but what I don't like is that he dropped it really quickly and hopped onto Mhork. I know he was calling Mhork a member of the other scumteam, but the way the vote change went down read as though Faraday sweet-talked him onto the wagon. Even if he did really suspect Mhork, I'd have expected more resistance to being charmed by his other top scumread.

I didn't like Mina early, but Faraday came in and saved the slot. That should be a bad sign tbh, but I'm not really worried. Lynching Lost Butterfly day 1 is a HUGE waste, even if you guys are scum, cause I still think you'll legitimately scumhunt to find your buddies. I just wanted to see Mina's reaction to it more than anything.

Yeah my posts were fluffy. I wanted to expel any "town can only all have same role" statements early. For example, Mhork saying his amount and shit assuming that all town have 100 and if his math is correct (I'm just gonna pretend it is) it "makes him town."

In post 509, Garuda wrote:Molla wasn't as cool as I thought he was.

I am extra fluffy this game because Faraday and You are around so I'm trying to impress with my quick wit.

In post 521, Lord Mhork wrote:Garuda, do you think it's possible whomever put money towards medium was scum trying to flood the market with useless junk?

Explain the thought process that brought you here please

Oh, Prohawk's attack on Zdenek looks bad.

ftr, I don't think LB is scum atm.

In post 564, zMuffinMan wrote:hm

Unvote
Vote: BBMolla

Why

In post 623, zMuffinMan wrote:went over his ISO earlier today and didn't like it at all. which posts from him read town?

okay question answered

In post 638, Lord Mhork wrote:You don't have to be a dick about it

And yes I know what that means. I'm wondering what he

meant

by it

In post 445, Zdenek wrote:Lord Mhork is scum.

Vote: Lord Mhork

With no reasoning behind it, what else your zdenek vote be taken for?

bb wrote:But I think part of it is I believe he's genuine in his night actions, which doesn't mean town.

i don't think anyone is really writing mhork off as town for the claimed actions.

bb wrote:(Someone do the math, at 100 starting does doing what he did end up 89? Just checking)

it does. no advertising, -$3 for medium, -$5 for cop, -$3 for gravedigger.

do you have scum reads outside of voided?

...does anyone read my posts? Zdenek advertised Medium and put no money towards it. I speculated that it could be because he was trying to flood the market with useless shit (which Medium really is now that I've read it). I've mentioned that a couple times now.

And my zdenek vote is hardly OMGUS. I didnt even know he was voting me as I've been distracted by other things. A lot of people voted me; am I not allowed to touch them? My vote didn't come to be be aide he voted me. My vote came from me thinking about a particular action as possibly scummy, and the player happened to line up. If you'll recall, I didn't even remember who it was that advertised medium. I just speculated it could easily have been scum motivated.

Your attack is dumb, morph. Try to do actual scum hunting.

PEDIT:
Of course all my money works. I copied if directly from my QT. >.>

In post 642, zMuffinMan wrote:do you have scum reads outside of voided?

Honestly, no.

Well Prohawk minorly.

In post 643, Lord Mhork wrote:Your attack is dumb, morph. Try to do actual scum hunting.

It's almost like you think we're voting you or something.

>.>
No but the attack is dumb. OMGUS is so overhyped it's like people forgot what the actual definition is. Voting someone shouldn't give a pass to getting a return vote. >.<

In post 555, Voidedmafia wrote:

In post 548, 1baldeagle1 wrote:So, you mention my misquote, but you don't respond to my me saying you are WKing LB?

I've seen multiple people say I'm white-knighting them, but I'm not seeing it. Yes, my initial townread on them came from the fact I thought you were scum pushing a bad case on her, but I've been adding to that townread based on other things.

In post 548, 1baldeagle1 wrote:Also, if you are saying I was calling LB scum because he kept misquoting, you are wrong.

You used that to fluff up that case, considering, like, only two quotes out of 8-10 or so involved the only real point you had.

For the first part, then explain your other reasons for calling him town, because you are WKing him.

I just took the whole ISO, the "Evil Quote have attacked" = Ignore this, I'm just having a bit fun here.

In post 578, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:

Player	Advertised n0	Bid on n0
VoidedMafia
PeregrineV
Nero Cain
Seanald
guille2015
Lost Butterfly (a hydra of Faraday and Mina)
Garuda (a hydra of Empire and Nachomamma8)
Pyrotechnics (a hydra of Syryana and Tammy)
morph the cat (a hydra of Cabd and fferyllt)
BBmolla
Banakai
Harakiri (hydra of Natirasha and Sakura Hana)
uʍop ǝpısdn (a hydra of N and Quilford)
zMuffinMan
Hermy
ProHawk
Lord Mhork
Zdenek
1baldeagle1	None	Vote freezer and Cop
DoctorPepper
Klick

Voided is scum. He needs to be lynched.