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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:23 pm

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Kikuchiyo, the Copycat Samurai wrote: What do you think of farmers? You think they're saints? Hah! They're foxy beasts! They say, "We've got no rice, we've no wheat. We've got nothing!" But they have! They have everything! Dig under the floors! Or search the barns! You'll find plenty! Beans, salt, rice, sake! Look in the valleys, they've got hidden warehouses! They pose as saints but are full of lies! If they smell a battle, they hunt the defeated! They're nothing but stingy, greedy, blubbering, foxy, and mean! God damn it all! But then who made them such beasts? You did! You samurai did it! You burn their villages! Destroy their farms! Steal their food! Force them to labour! Take their women! And kill them if they resist! So what should farmers do?
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mikeburnfire
(1) - ShadowLurker
riktus
(1) - Toaster Strudel
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(5): M4yhem, ChannelDelibird, Romanus, riktus, spectrumvoid

Needed for a lynch: 5 votes
Negotiable deadline: 23 days

If by deadline no one has 5 votes player with more votes is lynched
If two players have same number of votes lynch is decided by duel

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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:29 pm

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Unvote Vote SV
:sadtorch Ken Hoang, A.D/Fuzzie, Cameron Ferris, Taj Johnson-George, Annie Duke, Patti Blagojevich, Maria/Tiffany :sadtorch
:torch Tammy/Victor, Dan/Jordan
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:34 pm

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Excellent.
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:15 am

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Vote: Spectrumvoid
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:15 am

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What's the deal with the spectrumvoid wagon? What's the reason?
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:29 am

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Started making some notes on people last night - the site was down this morning when i had a decent amount of time to read through though, so hopefully i'll have something tomorrow.

TS - best guess is its pressurising spectrumvoid into speculating why the vig targeted him (as in Kain) last night, which seems a bit of a stretch though. He's at -2 now, we should remember that the ??? vote may still appear somewhere (unless it was resolved somewhere, and I've missed it?).
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:10 am

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Toaster- Speaking for myself, I have two reasons for voting for Spectrumvoid.

1. I want to hear
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2. I thought a bandwagon might get people excited about the game. :( This inactivity brings shame to us all.

ChannelDelibird- Are you still around?

Riktus- Good point. I had forgotten about the ??? vote. It's still around; it was on Romanus earlier today.
Anyway, it's tomorrow; you have something for us, right? I think (I hope) seeing the game from a fresh perspective will help get us going again.
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:43 am

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Spectrumvoid is going to be away for a couple more days. Upon her return I think things will pick up.
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:24 am

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I decided I might as well jsut get this finished and put out there, so I've spent more time in some places than others. All I can guarantee is that I've read the whole thing so far, and got a feel for the game - will clearly be focussing more on peoples play today than what has happened previously.

02- spectrumvoid (Kain)
Kain's vote jumped around a bit at first, and he seemed to be focussing on the ??? vote, and some outside knowedge on HurriKaty - not a great deal to go on w.r.t. reaction to in game content there. Didn't like his repeated emphasis on 'gut feelings' - while they clearly have a place in the game, I don't like seeing reliance on things you cannot support with some evidence. Several quite bizarre posts and niggling issues here I'm not sure about, definitely scum potential - see what the new player's reaction is.

03- mikeburnfire (mlaker)
Not a great deal of content, and almost all of it was directed at Romanus, as to how scummy he found him at the time - even more difficult to get anything off him. Obviously now switched to MBF so difficult to get a consistent read, but main thing would be looking for more content now.

05- Toaster Strudel (mole)
Mole just had the one post. TS took over, and spent most of his posts attacking Kaebamf. Clearly I can't defend Kaebamf, and I can see that his fairly limited activity and contribution could look a bit scummy - I can only assume that this was mainly laziness/lack of time (whichever way you want to look at it). Consistency is a plus point here, although some of the later attacks when Kaebamf had disappeared seemed rather peculiar. Like to see some more contribution on a few more people. Undecided.

07- Romanus
During my first readthrough I had some supicions on both Romanus and ShadowLurker during their original tete a tete. After a second look, Romanus seems to have been pretty consistent, and quite proactive in searching out scum throughout the day - probably one of the more pro town in my book. Some kind of information power role is a bonus, although im not positive that the fact the vig was targeting Kain is very useful.

08- ShadowLurker
Again, some supicions on first read - a little more erratic than Romanus however, generally has cleared up my doubts a lot less. Something strange in a few points, such as the relationship with M4yhem and possible call for mass claiming - and quite an erratic voting record. Possibly scummy.

09- M4yhem
Pretty consistent, with a good amount of analysis. After Romanus for most of the first day; while I don't necessarily believe it was correct, as with TS the consistency is probably a good sign, and now looks like he's backing off. No great feelings one way or the other.

11- ChannelDelibird
Actually has a lot of posts, something I was surprised by after my first read through - a bit like my predecessor I didn't feel like I was getting that much content. Also responsible for opening up the lynch to a 3 way tie bringing lordy into play, more because he didnt like the other 2 possible lynch candidates than he had anything on lordy, which I didn't like.



Vague order of scumminess (just alphabetical order within groups)

Scummiest

{ChannelDelibird, ShadowLurker, spectrumvoid}

{M4yhem, mikeburnfire, ToasterStrudel}

{Romanus}

Towniest

Thats the gist of my thoughts at the moment - as I say, not having played through the last 25 pages, I will be focussing more on the events of today.
Mostly waiting for spectrumvoid's reaction.
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:37 am

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riktus wrote:03- mikeburnfire (mlaker)
Obviously now switched to MBF so difficult to get a consistent read, but main thing would be looking for more content now.
Aw, why post content when I can just start a random, baseless bandwagon against spectrumvoid that everybody else wants to be a part of?
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:40 am

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Romanus wrote:Spectrumvoid is going to be away for a couple more days. Upon her return I think things will pick up.
Where did you hear that?

MBF- Random, baseless? In that case, what do you think of
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Ricktus- Nice analysis, but no vote? If you had to vote now, who would you vote for?
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:41 am

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I know about sv because I am modding a game she is in and she told me.

I would complain about asking a question like that, but not much else going on here.
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:41 am

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M4yhem wrote:MBF- Random, baseless? In that case, what do you think of
my
reasons for voting for Spectrumvoid?
I doubt she knows why the MightySamurai targetted her. Though, I think a bandwagon would be beneficial.
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:38 am

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Just a reminder, the ???? may still be out there, so -2 to lynch is close enough.
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:38 pm

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Last 2 posts sum up my position exactly: Not sure how beneficial the information of vig targetting SV is, but would like to hear some information from her (and most likely direction im looking in atm so im happy with some pressure there); BUT im not putting a vote anywhere near there at -2 with the extra vote around.
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:13 am

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Wikipedia wrote: The Sengoku jidai ("warring-states period") was marked by the loosening of samurai culture with people born into other social strata sometimes making names for themselves as warriors and thus becoming de facto samurai. In this turbulent period, bushido ethics became important factors in controlling and maintaining public order.
SAMURAI VOTECOUNT

spectrumvoid
(3) - mikeburnfire, ShadowLurker, M4yhem
riktus
(1) - Toaster Strudel

Not voting
(4): ChannelDelibird, Romanus, riktus, spectrumvoid

Needed for a lynch: 5 votes
Negotiable deadline: 19 days

If by deadline no one has 5 votes player with more votes is lynched
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:17 am

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Where is spectrumvoid?
:sadtorch Ken Hoang, A.D/Fuzzie, Cameron Ferris, Taj Johnson-George, Annie Duke, Patti Blagojevich, Maria/Tiffany :sadtorch
:torch Tammy/Victor, Dan/Jordan
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:55 pm

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SV is camping this weekend, should be back tomorrow.
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:34 am

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Still here; still waiting.

Does ChannelDelibird need a prod?
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:55 am

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I sent CDB a PM on Sunday.
He didn't open it. I hope he didn't leave the site.
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:02 am

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Just to be sure, we're not to add more votes to sv until she shows up, on account of a possible double-voter, right?
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:47 am

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Toaster Strudel wrote:Just to be sure, we're not to add more votes to sv until she shows up, on account of a possible double-voter, right?
Yeah, it's not worth the risk - presuming the fact that we are all really waiting on her should be pressure enough, and she has returned elsewhere on the site today so I'm assuming we'll have something today ...
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:19 am

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Spectrumvoid?
Dead Rikimaru wrote:I sent CDB a PM on Sunday.
He didn't open it. I hope he didn't leave the site.
I'm
sure
he's been posting in the mishmash forum; he's playing diplomacy there. So he probably will be back soon...
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:38 am

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I was here making notes on everything yesterday. Unfortunately my computer crashed due to a power outrage... anyone care to do me a favour and just summarise why I'm on the hot seat? I'll be back with more content in an hour.
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:16 am

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Finally oh finally. It's just extremely difficult to replace in a game where the person I'm replacing is just so different from my usual playstyle. And I once again apologise to our mod for being so understanding, and for just being such a nice guy. Now, game stuff...

I'm guessing that HK targetted me (Kain) at night, because I voted for her, as a sort-of OMGUS move. Let me just clarify here that I/Kain had no information on HK's role whatsoever, that bit where he claimed to have info was probably meta-gaming, since he said it's out of this game.

The one person that I think needs to have some focus on is Toaster Strudel. There have been quite a few major conflicts in this game, and more than a few accusations. This is probably the first time I've seen so many power roles outed within 20+ pages. Throughout these arguments, I've gotten a read on who is suspicious of who, and who is supportive/defensive of who. The one person who stood out was Toaster Strudel. Unlike the lurkers, TS was here and posted. However, other than repeatedly banging on kaebamf (for no apparent reason since he didn't post any), TS has remained non-committal. This is scummy because:
1) He has shown no interest in finding scum.
2) He is accusing kae/rik for no reason.
3) He is so non-commital that I have 0 read on him regarding his attitude on such issues. Considering that he didn't contribute much, and we manged to force power roles to claim and consequently killed, I think that's scummy.
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