Shanba wrote:
Um, yes it does. No sane scum would use deliberate craplogic if he thouht he was going to b caught, and certainly not when he was under the pressure Ecto was under. In which case, anything he said would have to be valid. As an SK in that situation his best move is to be hunting the last mafia before the mafia kills him. In which case you should hve been able to see that anything he sad then was as valid then as it is now.
Obviously, if you were town, getting a mislynch on you would benefit Ecto, or else ecto wouldn't have attacked you. So therefore, knowing Ecto is town helps us realize that he wasn't just attacking you for the hopes of a mislynch. I thought he was a unkillable sk, may I remind you, so no, he wouldn't have to worry about the mafia kill.
FFS, this is kind of obvious.
For an example of what I'm trying to get across: Town lynches Battle Mage, he turns up town. battle Mage had been heaily attacking Simenon. Just because Battle Mage turned up town doesn't add any weight to his arguments against Simenon.
Yes, yes it does.
Or for another, more relevant example: town lynches Ectomancer. Ectomancer turns up SK. Ectomancer had ben heavily attacking Shanba. remarkably, any arguments he made should still stand on their own merits, as his goal is not to incriminate himself by posting flawed logic.
"flawed logic" doesn't matter. Ecto's points weren't flawed, but if he was a serial killer: HIS POINTS DIDN'T NEED TO BE FLAWED OR NOT FLAWED. He was being assumed as the serial killer- we didn't need to listen to him then, because he didn't share our alignment and we didn't want to buy in to whatever he was plotting.
Delayed roleblocker is in some ways more dangerous to town than an actual full out roleblocker, as it adds an extra element to the situation after town things it has things worked out. Also, it fits your criteria of messing with town roles.
We are not talking about DRBER. We are talking about a scum role that possible balanced you being unkillable. Delayed rber does not.
My immediate inclination when I see something that is untrue or
WTF? You gave me advice on gameplay and I thought the advice was helpful. You are now trying to twist that into a scumtell.
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I wasn't serious from the start.