VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED

[Maid Cafe]

Me and Cerb have flavor knowledge and flavor is something that apparently matters a lot this game.
I think we pose a threat to a scum team with 0 magic knowledge.


~B

Eh. I think a scum team with 0 magic knowledge could gain enough knowledge to figure stuff out once spells come out and people see how different colors are being represented mechanically.

-Cerb

I think based on a google search it's stupidly hard to differentiate between things that exist in magic and things that actually get played, used and were liked.
Like for example "mana stealing" is something you can find really old cards of that do it (i only found 1)

The best you can find now is cards that mind control you or cards that steal permanents which are inherently different then mana stealing since that wouldn't effect already generated mana or a planeswalker ability (our mana isn't generated through lands this game it's through this). But a google search would suggest that mana stealing is something you could realistically fake claim.


/shrug idk if I wanna discuss flavor too much

~B

[Maid Cafe]

Like i could discuss other examples but I don't want to inspire fake claims.

~B

[Maid Cafe]

I have some mega fucking spicy pocket reads I am not sharing atm btw.
Super spicy.

~B

[Shining Dreamers]

I wanted to be scum because I'm stronger as scum. Why y no give me scum?

- Phosphophyllite

I don't get this, some of your recent best have been town games
Unless this is the wrong head then nvm
~Lumia

Phos is Yume.
Yume is an amazingly strong scum player.
I think the more she hydras with Mastina the better town player she becomes.
Like if the strength of a Mastina/Yume hybrid manifested itself it'd have the right to brag about it's torn muscle shirt from all the strength.

Why else did you think I offered?
- Phosphophyllite

I don't know. But that would be irrelevant as it's pregame.

Do you share Mastina's view RR is scum? I would love to hear your opinions more.

I'm probably gonna poke manna if the Skybird thing doesn't work with my block so far or if I don't like the current.

Don't know. I do however, share her view that MC is scummy. Then agains, considering that RR being scum multiple times in a row is a thing, I would consider it possible that the same thing happened again.

All that aside, I am not the best of player on the first two days or so, and I was hoping she could help me change that.

- Phosphophyllite

MC who is MC?

And I was hoping we’d talk some. If not on RR somewhere else. The best way to get better is by doing.

MC is Maid Cafe.

[Tibor and Lumia]

it informs scum. it would be fine to claim later and confusion would easily be avoided that way.
anyway, it doesn't matter now.

this is my last, desperate call into an uncaring universe: please stop claiming, everyone.

Good thing I haven’t claimed then. Although this brings back memories. Please tell me I wasn’t townreading it too soon? I townread everything before this post.

How is this the post that killed your townread on Chara?
~Lumia

[Tibor and Lumia]

How do we even have claims?? GAME HASN'T STARTED YET

This feels faked. Scumread
~Lumia

[Shining Dreamers]

As for RR, the patented Phosphophyllite test is that unless they bring actual read to the main thread, you hang them and you look happy doing it. Not into any PTs alone. Into the main thread. You cannot fail in this way.

- Phosphophyllite

[OnTheMark]

it informs scum. it would be fine to claim later and confusion would easily be avoided that way.
anyway, it doesn't matter now.

this is my last, desperate call into an uncaring universe: please stop claiming, everyone.

Good thing I haven’t claimed then. Although this brings back memories. Please tell me I wasn’t townreading it too soon? I townread everything before this post.

How is this the post that killed your townread on Chara?
~Lumia

Asked and answered.

I didn’t like the repeated statements of don’t claim.

@Phos please talk about MC then. I would love it if you would talk more.

[OnTheMark]

As for RR, the patented Phosphophyllite test is that unless they bring actual read to the main thread, you hang them and you look happy doing it. Not into any PTs alone. Into the main thread. You cannot fail in this way.

- Phosphophyllite

+1 sub

[Venmar]

Still don't understand how Venmar is out the townblock, but whatever.

Mind explaining how Venmar is in a townblock? All he did was claim how he gets mana. Don't see what's so towny about that, explecially since it's probably NAI
~Lumia

He's not. He keeps trying.

you keep saying this as if saying it enough times will make it true

[Shining Dreamers]

As for RR, the patented Phosphophyllite test is that unless they bring actual read to the main thread, you hang them and you look happy doing it. Not into any PTs alone. Into the main thread. You cannot fail in this way.

- Phosphophyllite

+1 sub

?

[Venmar]

How do we even have claims?? GAME HASN'T STARTED YET

This feels faked. Scumread
~Lumia

the irony of this post is that it reads as equally faked lol. scumread

[OnTheMark]

As for RR, the patented Phosphophyllite test is that unless they bring actual read to the main thread, you hang them and you look happy doing it. Not into any PTs alone. Into the main thread. You cannot fail in this way.

- Phosphophyllite

+1 sub

?

Like if you were a YouTube channel I would subscribe.

[Tibor and Lumia]

it informs scum. it would be fine to claim later and confusion would easily be avoided that way.
anyway, it doesn't matter now.

this is my last, desperate call into an uncaring universe: please stop claiming, everyone.

Good thing I haven’t claimed then. Although this brings back memories. Please tell me I wasn’t townreading it too soon? I townread everything before this post.

How is this the post that killed your townread on Chara?
~Lumia

Asked and answered.

I didn’t like the repeated statements of don’t claim.

@Phos please talk about MC then. I would love it if you would talk more.

That feels rather petty. Like just because someone is repeating themselves doesn't make them scum. It just means they think it needs repeating.
~Lumia

[Tibor and Lumia]

How do we even have claims?? GAME HASN'T STARTED YET

This feels faked. Scumread
~Lumia

the irony of this post is that it reads as equally faked lol. scumread

Well I'm completely serious: the outrage doesn't seem to be taking into context that people might have other reasons to claim than pressure or w/e.
~Lumia

[OnTheMark]

it informs scum. it would be fine to claim later and confusion would easily be avoided that way.
anyway, it doesn't matter now.

this is my last, desperate call into an uncaring universe: please stop claiming, everyone.

Good thing I haven’t claimed then. Although this brings back memories. Please tell me I wasn’t townreading it too soon? I townread everything before this post.

How is this the post that killed your townread on Chara?
~Lumia

Asked and answered.

I didn’t like the repeated statements of don’t claim.

@Phos please talk about MC then. I would love it if you would talk more.

That feels rather petty. Like just because someone is repeating themselves doesn't make them scum. It just means they think it needs repeating.
~Lumia

Not sorry if it feels petty. I’ve been down this road once today with Beeboy. If you ask a question that can be answered by reading the thread I give you a flippant answer or quote it. If you fail to understand it then I get annoyed fail again wtf levels. I expect people to read the thread or in the case of having a hydra partner talk with them.

[Venmar]

^^ Also, I wrote up my response to your post in our hydra PT, but since nobody seems to care about your case or agree with you(so far), I won't bother posting it! <3

i'll actually be the devils advocate here cause im curious in your response. right now you're just smugly dismissing and discrediting the case.

[Tibor and Lumia]

I wish people would actually talk with me instead of at me.

And I think one of Taly or RR is scum. Not necessarily an either or just at least one. I don’t like what Cerb did there.

I also wish people would explain Tabor to me and talk about how Taly doesn’t interact with recent stuff.

What do you wanna talk about
~Maki

I need help sorting Tabor and how Taly seems to be deliberately post behind and not post anything relevant. See my prior post asking about it.

Tabor feels null they haven't really posted much of anything that makes me pull one way or another just fluff questions
Taly seemingly not being here at the gamestate when they post is an interesting take but posts alone make me cringe I'd call em a light sr.
Anything else on your mind? I'm curious why those 2 were the top 2 on your mind.
~Maki

Tabor is because I don’t see any Gamma posts and I can read Gamma much better I think. I am struggling to figure out brass and I want to get people talking about slots in general so I can get a feel for the unknowns. It’s weird people don’t talk that slot to me because it’s somewhar active.

Wait, who

are

you? There are very few people I know who have good faith in their ability to read me and one is already in this game and I don't think the other would be you.
~Lumia

[Tibor and Lumia]

@OTM Your scumread feels petty, not your response to me.
~Lumia

[OnTheMark]

I wish people would actually talk with me instead of at me.

And I think one of Taly or RR is scum. Not necessarily an either or just at least one. I don’t like what Cerb did there.

I also wish people would explain Tabor to me and talk about how Taly doesn’t interact with recent stuff.

What do you wanna talk about
~Maki

I need help sorting Tabor and how Taly seems to be deliberately post behind and not post anything relevant. See my prior post asking about it.

Tabor feels null they haven't really posted much of anything that makes me pull one way or another just fluff questions
Taly seemingly not being here at the gamestate when they post is an interesting take but posts alone make me cringe I'd call em a light sr.
Anything else on your mind? I'm curious why those 2 were the top 2 on your mind.
~Maki

Tabor is because I don’t see any Gamma posts and I can read Gamma much better I think. I am struggling to figure out brass and I want to get people talking about slots in general so I can get a feel for the unknowns. It’s weird people don’t talk that slot to me because it’s somewhar active.

Wait, who

are

you? There are very few people I know who have good faith in their ability to read me and one is already in this game and I don't think the other would be you.
~Lumia

I am OnTheMark.

Deal.

This reads like scum thinking he is caught for the wrong reasons.

VOTE: Tabor and Lumia

[OnTheMark]

@OTM Your scumread feels petty, not your response to me.
~Lumia

How can a scumread be petty?

Either it is genuine or it isn’t a read.

[Tibor and Lumia]

Hi, guys. I didn't want to jump in when I am in the middle of work, but I would like to point out, Gamma and I had discussed yesterday in our PT that I should kind of take the reigns early on before he comes with his big catch ups and posts. I was in Court this morning and am now at work and need to mull over what's been said, probably re read and whatnot.

-Tibor

Hey OTM I recall you got on my case for not stating I wasn't going to be in thread for a while. What about this?

[Tibor and Lumia]

I wish people would actually talk with me instead of at me.

And I think one of Taly or RR is scum. Not necessarily an either or just at least one. I don’t like what Cerb did there.

I also wish people would explain Tabor to me and talk about how Taly doesn’t interact with recent stuff.

What do you wanna talk about
~Maki

I need help sorting Tabor and how Taly seems to be deliberately post behind and not post anything relevant. See my prior post asking about it.

Tabor feels null they haven't really posted much of anything that makes me pull one way or another just fluff questions
Taly seemingly not being here at the gamestate when they post is an interesting take but posts alone make me cringe I'd call em a light sr.
Anything else on your mind? I'm curious why those 2 were the top 2 on your mind.
~Maki

Tabor is because I don’t see any Gamma posts and I can read Gamma much better I think. I am struggling to figure out brass and I want to get people talking about slots in general so I can get a feel for the unknowns. It’s weird people don’t talk that slot to me because it’s somewhar active.

Wait, who

are

you? There are very few people I know who have good faith in their ability to read me and one is already in this game and I don't think the other would be you.
~Lumia

I am OnTheMark.

Deal.

This reads like scum thinking he is caught for the wrong reasons.

VOTE: Tabor and Lumia

You should knoow that if you're faking meta I'll be really pissed with you. From what you've said you're indicating you have actually played with me.
Also I called your scumread petty because it's sorta nitpicking. I believe it's genuine.
~Lumia

[Venmar]

mark you're sheeping me

[Reasonably Rational]

That's not really how I expect someone who town reads another to disregard what they are saying. The Titus/Kiana question was more an after thought but I was mainly trying to get a feel for Cerb. (And yes I'm calling the slot Cerb until Drixx pops in. Deal.)

i would argue that scum RR pays

more

attention to how they answer questions, not less.

They did pay attention. The reaction was IDGAF. I wasn't saying they're not paying attention. It's that they are blatantly contradicting themselves. And I don't know where Cerb

actually

stands on mechanical issues or his reads. I want that to stop.

Also, you could actually ask me questions directly if you want to know where I stand on something. I think it's pretty clear where I stand on everything, and you're misreading a number of things I've said, either intentionally or due to some sort of bias, but I can certainly clarify stuff if you want to ask.

-Cerb

Do you value mechanics play or regular play?

Do you support the everyone vote for themselves plan?

Who are your top town and scumreads?

Let’s start there.

Define "regular" play. If you want to know how I play(which you should already know, and which should tell you what I value, but I'll gladly reiterate it to everyone): I enjoy mechanically breaking games and doing everything in my power to do the objectively optimal play in all situations, again, mechanically speaking. I attempt to create auto-win situations for myself, as either alignment. As far as reads go, I only value those parts of reads which can be documented, where you can lay out a logical set of reasons why x is why, based on actions taken.

As for RR, the patented Phosphophyllite test is that unless they bring actual read to the main thread, you hang them and you look happy doing it. Not into any PTs alone. Into the main thread. You cannot fail in this way.

- Phosphophyllite

You're still my favorite Yume. <3 I don't actually think I've ever been secretive about a read in a PT and not expressed it in the main thread as well, eventually. There have been times where I've told one party I suspect someone while not acting like I suspect them in the main thread, in order to further a gambit(generally Drixx generated) of some sort, or vice versa, but the truth always comes out afterwards, regardless of alignment. I can appreciate your sentiment though.

^^ Also, I wrote up my response to your post in our hydra PT, but since nobody seems to care about your case or agree with you(so far), I won't bother posting it! <3

i'll actually be the devils advocate here cause im curious in your response. right now you're just smugly dismissing and discrediting the case.

That's because it's easy to dismiss, and OTM didn't ask for my response, only for that of those who TR me.

Anyways, that's 1!

-Cerb