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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:12 pm
by skitter30
UNVOTE:

for now
i'm feeling a little better about you
not enough to want you in my coalition but the way you're approaching the game holistically makes a bit more sense to me now

i also partially voted you to see if anyone would have any sort of reaction to it (ie i was trying to see if that would spark an interesting discussion) but it didn't so yeah

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:13 pm
by The Dark Wanderer
i'm not particularly certain of raya36 town either, i think you and skitter30 are clearly town and everyone else is several rungs below with yurikojasmine seeming like the likeliest scum as of right now

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:16 pm
by probs a robot
In post 597, skitter30 wrote:
In post 594, DVa wrote:
In post 591, skitter30 wrote:dva what do you think about the way gamma is approaching this game (ie the intensive reading of every post etc)?
I think Gamma flips a coin on whether he does that or not, the choice of reading posts is NAI, what matters is the content and thought it generates. He has skipped hundreds of pages as town and done detailed reactions as scum, and he has done detailed analysis as town and basically afk'd as scum. The most important thing in sorting Gamma is feeling like his reactions are genuine.
i kinda feel like he's using it as a way to kinda like avoid interacting seriously in real time
I believe it is easy enough to not interact seriously in real time without that kind of intensive reading post.
Also think it may be slightly scum indicative though. Any other thoughts on it?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:16 pm
by The Dark Wanderer
In post 78, Gamma Emerald wrote:HEAL: northsidegal
HEAL: Gamma Emerald
Btw anyone else notice TesXX has me in his coalition despite scumreading me?
i thought this was an awful post given that his initial coalition was more of a joke than anything
I don't really have anything else to say regarding the other posts.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:17 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Btw why do you think my current technique is possibly being used to avoid real time interactions when I’m clearly not?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:17 pm
by skitter30
yes, thank you, that post was awful

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:18 pm
by skitter30
In post 629, Gamma Emerald wrote:Btw why do you think my current technique is possibly being used to avoid real time interactions when I’m clearly not?
because whenever i ask you about reads you tell me that you're going back to the beginning of the game to intensely analyze it and won't talk about in-real-time reads

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:18 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 628, The Dark Wanderer wrote:
In post 78, Gamma Emerald wrote:HEAL: northsidegal
HEAL: Gamma Emerald
Btw anyone else notice TesXX has me in his coalition despite scumreading me?
i thought this was an awful post given that his initial coalition was more of a joke than anything
I don't really have anything else to say regarding the other posts.
Ok
Didn’t recall it was a joke, just saw the discrepancy and poked it.
Fair enough though.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:19 pm
by skitter30
In post 627, probs a robot wrote:
In post 597, skitter30 wrote:
In post 594, DVa wrote:
In post 591, skitter30 wrote:dva what do you think about the way gamma is approaching this game (ie the intensive reading of every post etc)?
I think Gamma flips a coin on whether he does that or not, the choice of reading posts is NAI, what matters is the content and thought it generates. He has skipped hundreds of pages as town and done detailed reactions as scum, and he has done detailed analysis as town and basically afk'd as scum. The most important thing in sorting Gamma is feeling like his reactions are genuine.
i kinda feel like he's using it as a way to kinda like avoid interacting seriously in real time
I believe it is easy enough to not interact seriously in real time without that kind of intensive reading post.
Also think it may be slightly scum indicative though. Any other thoughts on it?
not really
dva seems ot know him pretty well and doesn't seem to think it's ai so idk

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:19 pm
by The Dark Wanderer
gamma you've been playing the game in the broader sense but you don't really feel 'present' in the discussion if you understand what I mean and I think it's a lot easier to talk about really old stuff than to be 'present'.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:20 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 631, skitter30 wrote:
In post 629, Gamma Emerald wrote:Btw why do you think my current technique is possibly being used to avoid real time interactions when I’m clearly not?
because whenever i ask you about reads you tell me that you're going back to the beginning of the game to intensely analyze it and won't talk about in-real-time reads
Because real time reads would undermine what I’m doing. I’m trying to form a good basis from scratch, using preconceptions messes with that.
God I feel like Kyoko now.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:20 pm
by The Dark Wanderer
(that's straight up a rewording of stuff that skitter has already said. I agree that it bothers me about Gamma but it doesn't make me think he's scum necessarily as much as I just want it to stop.)

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:21 pm
by probs a robot
I feel as though I have reasonable familiarity with Gamma, but I have already spoken about him at some length.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:22 pm
by Gamma Emerald
You’re not changing my mind on doing this

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:22 pm
by skitter30
In post 635, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 631, skitter30 wrote:
In post 629, Gamma Emerald wrote:Btw why do you think my current technique is possibly being used to avoid real time interactions when I’m clearly not?
because whenever i ask you about reads you tell me that you're going back to the beginning of the game to intensely analyze it and won't talk about in-real-time reads
Because real time reads would undermine what I’m doing. I’m trying to form a good basis from scratch, using preconceptions messes with that.
God I feel like Kyoko now.
i mean i get that but at the right you're going you'll hit the present ... in like two weeks or something

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:22 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I’ve picked up the pace a little though

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:23 pm
by The Dark Wanderer
In post 638, Gamma Emerald wrote:You’re not changing my mind on doing this
okay, but the most important thing you can do right now is prove that you're town if you're town and doing this is a severe hindrance to proving that you're town.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:24 pm
by skitter30
this doens't feel like a game where we'll get the coalition right

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:24 pm
by DVa
tbh I kinda feel like Gamma is like a replace-in a this point, replacing Gamma, who had to replace out because he got caught up in Fire Emblem :P

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:24 pm
by probs a robot
In post 636, The Dark Wanderer wrote:(that's straight up a rewording of stuff that skitter has already said. I agree that it bothers me about Gamma but it doesn't make me think he's scum necessarily as much as I just want it to stop.)
Pardon me cutting in but I believe skitter has a very similar scumgame, to your play earlier.

She sits to the side relatively safely and interjects with questions which are structured to present as critical. Often they do not actually accomplish as much as they appear to, but parsing that on day one is particularly difficult.

As town she is quite a lot more well-honed; she is focused on sorting and is generally extremely finely tuned. There's a lucidity which I am yearning to see from her here which is not present. A lot of her questions look like "questions people ask to look like town", before "questions that sort people assertively".

It feels to me as though she is getting half way through completing thoughts and then abandoning them, or losing her grip on where to take them next.

Currently busy running other programs so I'm not going to be able to go into this in too much detail. I just hope it assists you in understanding why my sources have lead me to hesitate with townreading skitter.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:24 pm
by probs a robot
Why am I scum, TDW?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:25 pm
by probs a robot
In post 628, The Dark Wanderer wrote:
In post 78, Gamma Emerald wrote:HEAL: northsidegal
HEAL: Gamma Emerald
Btw anyone else notice TesXX has me in his coalition despite scumreading me?
i thought this was an awful post given that his initial coalition was more of a joke than anything
I don't really have anything else to say regarding the other posts.
In post 630, skitter30 wrote:yes, thank you, that post was awful
This is a classic.
This post is objectively bad.
Does it come from town or scum? You two are critiquing quality of posts

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:26 pm
by The Dark Wanderer
maybe I'm just pocketed by the 'super super townie', who knows.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:26 pm
by skitter30
In post 644, probs a robot wrote:It feels to me as though she is getting half way through completing thoughts and then abandoning them, or losing her grip on where to take them next.
i mean when the people i'm talking to disappear for multiple days on end it's kinda hard to hold a conversation with them, y'know?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:26 pm
by probs a robot
In post 642, skitter30 wrote:this doens't feel like a game where we'll get the coalition right
Quoted for truth.

Sadly this is the kind of read I anticipate scum!skitter is very capable of faking.