Compromise Arena A

[Almost50]

And to save us some time (and agony)

VOTE: All lose

[Almost50]

Up to you, Ari. We can end this round in a stalemate and start fresh for the 3rd round.

[Aristophanes]

Literally why are we all losing?
I missed this in my rules read

[Almost50]

Because nobody can win. We are THREE factions (Jester has been taken off the list). All 3 factions winning is the exact same as all 3 factions losing. Who the fuck are we supposed to have beaten if we all won?

[Aristophanes]

Gotcha!

There has to be a solution here...

[Aristophanes]

I wish Chenn were here

[Krazy]

because the votes otherwise will time out at impasse

it's that or we all vote A50 and then vote chenni if you wanted like 2-3 extra points over time and a split win with me

otherwise it just sits at 2 votes on A50 and 2 votes doing whatever else until time runs out

lynching A50 allows town to lose with a chenni vote, or someone else winning if chenni came on and there was a betrayal. but there's no way for mafia to get a full win, so it's only a question of whether one faction loses or no one/everyone loses

[Almost50]

I FUCKING GABE YOU MY WORD! This is not about the game anymore, Krazy. This is about me and my honour. I gave you my word to self-vote when we are 3, provided we lynch chenn first.

[Aristophanes]

I don't like it. Something is fishy here.

[Krazy]

I mean why would I ever take your word over just lynching you now and then lynching chenni quickly afterward? One of those scenarios presents a certain loss for me, the other does not lol

Anyway I still think this should usually end in an all-lose. Anything else is like needlessly complex and risky at this point since there's so little uncertainty about alignments

[Krazy]

I don't like it. Something is fishy here.

Yeah A50 is trying to spin a mafia win for you guys still lol

Just a question of how much you care about 2-3 points and how much you want to belabor this gamestate

[Aristophanes]

Voting A50 has no effect withour Chenn on. Literally this game is waiting on him.

[Aristophanes]

I don't like it. Something is fishy here.

Yeah A50 is trying to spin a mafia win for you guys still lol

Just a question of how much you care about 2-3 points and how much you want to belabor this gamestate

I would rather play than worry about a couple points

[Krazy]

Like this game is complex when alignments are uncertain. They're not here though. There's only one person who could have even been plausibly gambiting at this point and that's A50, and he's still definitely playing like mafia so it's basically a 2-2 lock and a cat's game.

The only reason it's even still under consideration is because chenni is offline, which means you have the option to wolfside for a joint wolf-maf win, but that requires sacrificing one of your team so that we have equal numbers when voting chenn.

[Krazy]

Voting A50 has no effect withour Chenn on. Literally this game is waiting on him.

Uhh, no, Chenn does not vote A50 here under this arrangement actually. A50 self-votes so that we can then lynch chenn. That way you get more points than you would with an all-lose.

Chenn only votes all-lose here realistically since a cat's game is best town can hope for rn

[Krazy]

This is kinda a dumb argument though, the game was played and now the game is over. Dragging out a cat's game is kinda silly

[Aristophanes]

A50 will you self vote?

VOTE: A50

[Almost50]

OK. I see. Krazy is a man with no honour and cannot be trusted because a word of honour means nothing to him. That's fair.

Now you guys can continue ranting on here.. or don't. I'm out until the next round. And

my offer only stands for chenn

now. No joint win for you with me Kraxy.

P-edit: NO!

[Almost50]

I don't trust people with no honour. He didn't offer me his word of honour, and -even worse- didn't take mine. WHY would I ever trust someone like that?

[Krazy]

I mean I don't think you should, I still think Ari should just hammer the all-lose. You self-voting is just literally the only other viable play here and Ari seems reluctant to commit to the all lose

[Aristophanes]

Chenn needs to get the heck in here so we can do something

VOTE: Ari

I'm staying here until something happens.

[Aristophanes]

I'm not gonna all lose that seems dumb

[Almost50]

And giving your lead away isn't? Or waiting for 96 more hours for that matter!

[Krazy]

it's 2-2 ari

I know it's really 2-1-1 but it's functionally 2-2 because there's no doubt about almost anyone's relative alignment

it's just a cat's game, that's the problem with starting 4+ in this game

you can take it up with boon if you want since a50 won't compromise with a mafia lynch for a wolf-mafia joint win, there's really nothing to talk about here. going into 3-way kingmaker with every alignment confirmed is dumb anyway and just going to lead to bad feelings

[Krazy]

like the fun of compromise is supposed to be duping people in 3-way with alignments uncertain

the only reason we reached this situation is because I did a big gambit in voting chen, and then you failed to take advantage of the gambit. Yes, theoretically you and A50 could have won if you immediately hammered chen before I changed votes. We both have already lowkey gamethrown this round so in a way it's fitting anyway that everyone loses

being in a position where everyone's alignment is certain is zzz