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In post 621, Menalque wrote:stahp

In post 204, Menalque wrote:

In post 182, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 62, Menalque wrote:

In post 60, Amrun wrote:

In post 58, Menalque wrote:@GL do you think 35 was genuine?

Why ask this of GL in particular?

Ask me this again later

Can you answer this yet?

Yes, I wanted to know if he voted dats in 38 for memes or not

I don’t think dats’ thing about there being 3 scum was AI any more than I think me listing 2 scum is AI for me

The fact that he used it to justify a semi serious vote is opportunistic

In post 328, Menalque wrote:I think his progression on creature does make sense and while it pings me slightly that he voted Icon > creature his reasons for voting icon are the same things that have me unsure about him atm

Also I like that he didn’t hop onto the ‘mena townslipped’ thing and actively called it out

In post 612, Something_Smart wrote:Also what exactly is wrong with 604? I read it again and it seems pretty reasonable to me (aside from the unexplained vote which is pretty much par for the course this game).

In post 604, DogWatch wrote:@alimdia, I missed it but I also don’t think it was ever relevant. You accused SS of posting neutral fluff but I don’t think my posts compare. Low output yes but I haven’t been neutral. I don’t scumread SS at all fwiw.

My unease about menal isn’t strong but it’s there

, like I’m a little skittish about how widely townread he is over something that I found NAI and

I think it’s been easy for him to coast on it.

I joined his wagon but I don’t like it in retrospect.

It does feel like a scum-driven wagon unlike the GL wagon.

I’m much happier here. VOTE: GL

I’m also remaining pretty adamant that this is Creature’s scum game,

maybe I’m using old meta but I just disagree with amrun and texcat on him looking town.

In post 388, DogWatch wrote:

In post 330, Menalque wrote:

In post 285, Amrun wrote:In other words, I can very easily see AF’s posting as scum motivated; attempt to capitalize on obvious town mistakes, but place vote on most likely mislynch. Obviously that’s untrue if Ico ends up flipping scum. I’m null on him currently.

Also as I look at this it actually seems kind of perspective slippy? Like calling AFF out for capitalising on “obvious town mistakes” sounds a little too much like she knows they’re town, esp considering her null read on icon? Plus calling icon the most likely mislynch

This is exactly what I couldn't put my finger on when Amrun answered my questions last night. I think if you're going to label what Creature did as the "exact same offense" then you'd be scumreading him too regardless of who AF voted for. The more I think about it, AF seems more and more town and Amrun/Creature are looking more sus. There's been two instances of Amrun turning suspicion away from Creature, once when she voted almidia for his vote on Creature and then again in post 284. Like I'm having a hard time articulating it exactly but it seems to come from the perspective of someone who knows Creature's posts were kinda scummy, acknowledges it because she has to, but doesn't want to follow up on it.

VOTE: Amrun

In post 620, Menalque wrote:I think at this point I'm more confident on this

VOTE: ddl

In post 627, Menalque wrote:How am I tonally different?

In post 628, Salamence20 wrote:There should be no reason for DW to vote GL if the bolded parts are true.

In post 631, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 628, Salamence20 wrote:There should be no reason for DW to vote GL if the bolded parts are true.

... Doesn't one of the bolded parts say that the GL wagon is town driven?

In post 597, DrDolittle wrote:VOTE: gl because everyone else is too

In post 633, Salamence20 wrote:She said the amrun wagon is scum-driven and yet voted it.

In post 636, DogWatch wrote:There’s nothing odd about it. I didn’t love my amrun vote (as I vocalized) and left that wagon. AFTER that, GL became one of my better scum reads and I felt much better about that vote. I don’t see why this concerns you.

In post 629, Salamence20 wrote:

In post 620, Menalque wrote:I think at this point I'm more confident on this

VOTE: ddl

I have no issue with this, but anyway you would be willing to compromise on DW?

In post 637, DogWatch wrote:

In post 597, DrDolittle wrote:VOTE: gl because everyone else is too

Actually I take it back. THIS is the most opportunistic vote in the game.

In post 617, Menalque wrote:

In post 588, DogWatch wrote:Ok, don’t have much time and posting on phone so forgive the lack of quotes. Also I haven’t read every single post yet.

Ever since GL and Creature jumped on fairly abruptly I’m a lot less sure about the wagon. Menalque continues to defend it even though it’s looking shakier by the moment.

Which brings me to this: why is menalque so widely town-read right now?

If it’s because of his “townslip” during RVS, that’s literally nothing. I’ve done something similar as scum and I’ve done it as town too with full intent both times. So I read nothing into that, purely NAI for me. I did not understand why that “slip” dominated the early discussion.

@menalque, what was your initial progression on amrun and why are still so adamant about it?

I don’t know who I’m scum reading right now. I thought amrun’s response to my vote was level headed and made sense. I don’t think my vote was particularly well reasoned. At the very least I don’t like her at L-1 right now.

UNVOTE: amrun

Leaning slightly scum on GL now, but I only skimmed his posts today so I need to go back through him. Creature I’m still leaning scum on slightly.

@amrun, you said earlier this looked like town!creature based on experience. Where are you now with him? I used to think he was easy to sort but I haven’t been here in years.

I mean I'm widely TR bc I think I'm objectively the towniest slot in the game rn

I don't rly think anyone is town reading me for my "not a townslip" vs the fact that I'm actually solving and sorting people, how caught up are you at this point?

I don't think I am still "so adamant" about it and idk why you're characterising it like that when I've actively said that I'm bothered by the wagon speed, I just don't think that amrun is necessarily towny for having played townier since getting wagoned

plus my initial progression on amrun is p clear if you actually read my ISO

I think my initial concerns over her alim vote and her Pret interactions were bad, but tbh Aaron looks scummier now and that's prob +townpoints for amrun

In post 643, Menalque wrote:

In post 637, DogWatch wrote:

In post 597, DrDolittle wrote:VOTE: gl because everyone else is too

Actually I take it back. THIS is the most opportunistic vote in the game.

Okay so how about voting ddl with me then

In post 644, Menalque wrote:Also @sally do u wanna vote ddl with me

In post 645, DogWatch wrote:@menal, I intend to but I need to ISO you again because I think I overlooked some of your hundreds of posts lol