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In post 626, Quick wrote:I can go into further detail with this if I must.

In post 393, mavsfan41 wrote:

In post 336, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 331, Quick wrote:Okay, Effort for donkey just means he is Town. That is all I am saying.

I'll bite. Give me the case on Blair.

So at the time of this question, Blair’s VC was 2, NPOM and Quick. NPOM voted Blair way back in 189. Quick voted Blair closer to this post in 270 while baiting “feel free to ask me for my reasoning” which makes me believe that VP Baltar is directing the above at Quick.

In 376, VP Baltar says he’s pretty sure Quick and Blair are town. I don’t think town!VP Baltar asks his TR Quick about their case on TR Blair. Town!VP Baltar would only asks this if he’s scum reading at least one of Quick/Blair.

His town read post came after a Blair vs Quick so it’s possible he read that as TvT since, but that means he was scum reading Blair since he was town reading Quick in 317.

He never makes a push on Blair prior to this or expresses any sort of scum read on Blair. I think the above is disingenuous and he looking for town to eat itself here.

Vote: VP Baltar

In post 427, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I think some three of the most non active people voting baltar shows that he is town

In post 438, NoPowerOverMe wrote:

In post 434, Nauci wrote:

In post 427, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I think some three of the most non active people voting baltar shows that he is town

Are you implying that the quiet people are all scum together, or is there some other logic to your assessment?

I'm saying there is more likely scum on the wagon than not.

In post 627, Blair wrote:

In post 626, Quick wrote:I can go into further detail with this if I must.

Please don't. I would benefit more from the opposite: Please help me distill it.

If I am reading you correctly, you are saying NPOM is scummy because he was scumreading Atarashi and I in 253 (with R2R in his "not enough content" category), but moved his vote off of me onto R2R in 413 based on his assumption that there were lurk-scum voting for VP Baltar (427). You inferred from this vote switch that he was townreading me now, and he never explained this shift in his reads.

Is that correct?

If so, I would like NPOM to respond to that.

In post 628, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm not townreading Blair. I have her as null-town. When she was teaming with Atari she seemed scummy but she hasn't been doing that as of recent.

In post 431, Quick wrote:

In post 427, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I think some three of the most non active people voting baltar shows that he is town

That makes zero sense.

In post 453, Quick wrote:

In post 450, ready2rock wrote:

In post 427, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I think some three of the most non active people voting baltar shows that he is town

nah

Game is just over 24 hours old

Your defense of his play is noted.

In post 455, Quick wrote:

In post 454, NoPowerOverMe wrote:So join me then.

How about no because you can both be Scum here.

In post 616, Blair wrote:

In post 615, Quick wrote:Still like my vote!

I did state a case on NPOM but not one person commented on it. Not really sure why that is.

OK, I give up, I can't find it. Please link your NPOM case?

All I found was this:

In post 492, Quick wrote:This is more or less my reads at this point.

Atarashi
mav, Gamma, Puppy
Dany, VP, Blair
votato
NPOM
R2R

But I would like to see what R2R brings to the table.

So this is my vote after analysis (seperate from what I have said ITT).

VOTE: NPOM

Unless your NPOM case came before your NPOM vote. I didn't go back much farther than that.

In post 446, Quick wrote:

In post 30, Quick wrote:

In post 29, NoPowerOverMe wrote:VOTE: nauci

Mindless comments.

Pro tip: get an avatar.

In post 32, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'll consider it. I'm doordashing at the moment.

In post 52, Quick wrote:

In post 51, CantHateAPuppy wrote:

In post 46, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 33, CantHateAPuppy wrote:You don't understand, usually by now Blair has the class settled down and school is in session. You'll see I guess, or maybe not, don't want to poison the well here, (Sorry Blair!)

So you're saying in your past experience, Blair would be serious out of the gates? Want to make sure I'm interpreting correctly

Blair posts a lot in RVS, that's all, don't mean anything scummy implied

Quick looks like he's doing his own thing but i want him to explain his townread more so

VOTE: Quick

Sure let me try to.

As am experienced Scum he wouldn't think to take my advice seriously. That is why he "considered" doing it.

Then he said I had a good read. Make of that what you will.

Which pretty much implicates NPOM given he has experience playing as per his FoS and he never intended to get an avatar in the first place. This is Scum.

Weird reasoning, but think about it for a bit.

Plus, did you see how quickly he gave me a TR? Like, why does my tinfoil case he is TOWN a good read? Because I am pretty sure I said:

In post 54, Quick wrote:

In post 38, Quick wrote:They will, watch.

AND:

In post 179, Quick wrote:

In post 87, CantHateAPuppy wrote:Blair who's my scumbuddy? A page 4 game solution would be a new record.

NPOM -- FOS but no vote?

WTH he has no avatar.

In post 431, Quick wrote:

In post 427, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I think some three of the most non active people voting baltar shows that he is town

That makes zero sense.

In post 437, Quick wrote:

In post 434, Nauci wrote:

In post 427, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I think some three of the most non active people voting baltar shows that he is town

Are you implying that the quiet people are all scum together, or is there some other logic to your assessment?

He is saying they are Town for voting for someone who is never getting lynched this phase.

Plus, it means either his SR on Blair dissopated (with no progression) and that he is ignoring the VP wagon while even saying the people voting there are likely Town -1. At what point does NPOM make the "logical" choice just vote VP here? Does he TR VP or is the Town -1 mean there is no possibility of Bus or what? Cuz I am pretty sure NPOM knows Scum would for sure sit on a Scum early game if they don't intend to be active.

In post 42, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Good read.

In post 56, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Giving townreads is generally protown in my opinion as it opens yourself up to criticism

In post 98, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Why is everyone so scummy? Except Quick and Puppy.

Okay, I guess, just don't shut down Sus on yourself I guess

In post 179, Quick wrote:

In post 87, CantHateAPuppy wrote:Blair who's my scumbuddy? A page 4 game solution would be a new record.

NPOM -- FOS but no vote?

WTH he has no avatar.

In post 208, Quick wrote:

In post 207, Nauci wrote:

In post 189, NoPowerOverMe wrote:

unvote

Vote: Blair

In post 191, Quick wrote:VOTE: Blair

I would love to see Blair Tunnel this about now.

In post 190, votato wrote:

In post 189, NoPowerOverMe wrote:

unvote

Vote: Blair

eggs, plain

Both of you: what votato said

Mine had a double meaning.

In post 445, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Rtr Danny and Atari if I had to guess at this point.

In post 635, Quick wrote:@Blair...

We totally smoked 'em.

In post 639, mavsfan41 wrote:@ready2rock: why do you feel Atarashi is town?

In post 622, Blair wrote:

In post 619, NoPowerOverMe wrote:A) Lurking is scummy.

B) R2R was heavy lurking.

C) R2R has meta of lurking as scum and crying foul when caught.

D) Lurking and then hyperposting when wagoned is scummy.

E) R2R has not been actively scumhunting since coming out of lurktirement.

F) When my reasoning was questioned, he said something like "I'm done entertaining this line of thought." which sounds like he knows he's going to get lynched and doesn't want to implicate his scumbuddies.

A) Not really, at least not by itself.

B) I could be pedantic here and ask you to define "heavy" lurking when we're, what, two real life days into this game? But sure, he was lurking, it can be heavy if you want.

C) You have not demonstrated that he *only* lurks as scum, so this isn't a tell.

D) This one I would agree with to an extent, if only because it implies they were probably reading along the whole time while refraining from posting. I privately call this the "Bloody Mary" pattern. :p

E) I agree.

F) That's reading way too much into it, I suspect.

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If I were to boil your case down to only the parts I would agree with, it would become:

He wasn't posting at all until we started talking about him, the he conveniently appeared to argue about it incessantly, but that's all he's doing - I don't see much scumhunting.

Is that fair?

In post 641, Blair wrote:NPOM, you are welcome to commence flailing in abject terror and/or despair. I'm not fussy.