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In post 623, PenguinPower wrote:I mean - I think it's interesting that Dk was the leading wagon and now we're sitting between Hoctac and ceejay as counterwagons with no Dk wagon existing.

That's why I'm looking for reasons as to why people unvoted. Saying that it isn't possible to get a wagon on Dk is not accurate.

I am ok to get back on. So that's 2 votes. If we can find another 3 elsewhere, I would be all for it.

Looks like 17 hours.

oooh - you are my new sworn enemy.

In post 627, PenguinPower wrote:oooh - you are my new sworn enemy.

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Oh - I have a pagetop addiction. You took one I was trying to get.

In post 629, PenguinPower wrote:Oh - I have a pagetop addiction. You took one I was trying to get.

ahhh, then I will righfully claim that spot. I know that pitying people who didn't manage to get page top is the worst thing to do.

I'd vote for DkKoba. I still have reservations from early on.

I'm like at ceejay>DkKoba/Roses

Hey, Roses, you guys done OMGUSing me yet? Or do you actually scumread me?

@Hoctac: Why on Earth were you intentionally playing in a useless manner, then? "My own entertainment" is not a valid reason to act detrimentally in a team game.

@enomis: I know I'm town but I'm not afraid to hammer someone I think is scum if that's what the rest of the game wants, regardless of the supersaint possibility. This is a team effort, and if risking getting rid of me in that manner helps the overall town state, then hey, let's do it. I would think any town player would at least be sympathetic to the idea, if not ready to go along with it, while scum have much more of a reason to wait to avoid hammering a supersaint.

FWIW I would be delighted to see you hammer Hoctac or ceejay (or see either of them hammer you, or have one of them hammer the other), if not wanting to be beHolden to only Holden is really that much of a sticking point.

In fact, I think it would be best if people made clear who they would like to see possibly be a hammer on whatever lynch is eventually achieved.

*wait = want

Why do we want Ceejay lynched?

In post 622, enomis wrote:

In post 577, Kilgamayan wrote: enomis hopping onto the ceejay wagon whilst ignoring Holden's stated desire that enomis be a possible hammer vote is rather sus, particularly since ceejay was Holden's other stated hammerer preference and ceejay is presumably not going to hammer himself. Trying to dodge #SUPERSAINTRISK, enomis?

Did you even read the game? I was literally voting ceejay, switched to Dkkoba because I was the only one voting ceejay and switched back now that there is a wagon.
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I didn't read the game yet at that point which is pretty explicit by my post. So I didn't see Holden's post.
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i am not going to be the one to hammer just because Holden states it. I would rather a not confirm townie hammer then me a 100% confirmed townie hammer.

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Finding this statement here super sus.

That's why I offered it to the whole thread.

Your counteragurment to being the hammer is universal. By your logic, nobody should be forced to hammer.

In post 634, PenguinPower wrote:Why do we want Ceejay lynched?

No idea.

My vote on Hoctac is primarily for information since there have been merry go round wagons forming and disbanding while Hoctac's stagnated.

Sell me on DKKoba. I'm one of the people who flipped. What do you make of my flip?

I'll give you sushi for info.

I mean - I asked you why you moved off first soooooooo

In post 348, HoldenGolden wrote:Ah you are incorrect. The post (in my ISO) right before the start of your quoted posts gives a statement about my read.

In post 227, HoldenGolden wrote:

immediately after DkKoba voted for them. I'm not going to defend DkKoba at length, that's for them to do, but I will say that I thought it was obvious why they dropped their spat with Holden, and Holden didn't seem to hold(en) it against them (see 140).

I can agree on why they dropped it, but what do you think of the tonal aspects of how he dropped his push on me?

I have a conflicted read on Phoenix Human Rights hence my change in approach in the latter half of 140.

Also ironically the "Holden" part of the name is a pun reference. Sadly it's a Poker one though.

To expand, like I said before, my playstyle tends to bait the intial push out if RVS and I've grown to start anticipate the types of AI responses I would get. Phoneix human Rights was a new anomaly where he reacted in a manner ive havent seen quite before. To cut to the point, I had him nullscum at the time due to the early interaction and the tonal ssues I had with it but was conflicted by his admission of his weak push seeming genuine.

Overtime it has evolved into a townlean as I've learned more about his playstyle and more importantly had more posts from him to read

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The joke claim comment is merely saying that at least one town member (by mathematical standards) expressed something about the claim meaning. That suggests to me it may be a grey area to pursue due to this since its certain that it stuck out to town. The reason why I'm still inquiring on Ceevee about his reasoning is since it's an independent thought he had which seems by his own words to be a rare occurrence.

Ping pong back to you PP. If you want more explaintion I can explain. Eating the California rolls rn tho so better be quick

You'll forgive me if I did not understand what you meant by Phoenix Human Rights...

I don't like his trying to be town leader, pushing setup spec hard but missing basic foundational points, or his reaction to being pushed or questioned.

Just seems like - "look at my fake solve, I'm so town. oh did we out everyone's role and give a roadmap to scum, oopsies."

Also again - I don't like that his wagon completely dissipated.

No issues since he changed his Pfp to no longer be Phoenix human rights making it hard to know who I was talking about.

I can understand those points somewhat. What do you make of his scumlean progression on Tuxedo? Mainly do you think it was fabricated by him to escape voting elsewhere?

Is that what Hoctac(someone else?) pointed out earlier?

If so, I don't disagree.

I changed my pfp so u ppl would stop misgendering me but i guess that didn't work!

going after the one of the people most invested in the game seems like an easy way for scum to make their game easier sorry not sorry

"I'm posting, therefore, I am town" is a pretty bad argument.

Fucking hell i just lost a long post i made on mobile

im stating that your logic for my lynch is flimsy at best.
Penguin care to share why you mentioned a scum strategy while hiding it? Being aware of what scum could be doing is information we can use.

Unless of course it is to your benefit?

And I am a very mechanically intelligent player, I am not going to take jabs at my strategic ability to craft optimal strategies. If we have more than 1 person in gy that wasn't bomb killed then yes it makes sense for that vig to claim who killed the 2nd person and we either gain a clear or a cc. Both which help town.

In post 647, DkKoba wrote:im stating that your logic for my lynch is flimsy at best.

Ok - that's not what you said though.

In post 647, DkKoba wrote:Penguin care to share why you mentioned a scum strategy while hiding it? Being aware of what scum could be doing is information we can use.

What?

You mentioned a scum strategy from some player don't play dumb. You said you played this setup and received a strategy from your partner.