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In post 577, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 496, bob3141 wrote:Im feeling a slight lean town lean on golden, as if golden was partnered with either of bm or noraa i just dont think he would come in and push the fresh idea that they are just scum getting in early bussing.

Especially after choosing to vote for the one with the largest wagon. Of the two players he has stated as being svs. And not only that but a fourth vote on the first wagon. An ice breaker often done by town.

Golden is a townlean because he isn't scum with Noraa? eh, I don't know man, needs a re-think. Noraa and me is either T v S, or T v T. In either case, scum benefit from pushing the S v S agenda to guarantee at least 1 mislynch, if not two.

Golden is a townlean because he isn't scum with Noraa? eh, I don't know man, needs a re-think. Noraa and me is either T v S, or T v T. In either case, scum benefit from pushing the S v S agenda to guarantee at least 1 mislynch, if not two


I'm leaning towards it being tvt. My gut keeps telling me that noraa is just a fellow townie who has made a bad early push. Certainly the possibility that its tvs as noraas push was rather scummy. But the fact she didn't try and back track on her push on you. Even when she was asked why she thought it was scummy rather than just anti-town. She continued to push a set of reads on you that ultimately stemmed from that flawed premises.

In post 617, Battle Mage wrote:To be extra clear, I did not risk outting a PR by

trying to get people to confirm their existing claims

. Nor did Shelly. The only ones who did were Menalque and possibly slightly Ico. You suggesting otherwise, is scummy to me, because you're an experienced player and Mod and you know that ain't right.

the bolded is what i see as risking outting PRs - there's a chance the claim is a meme, there's a chance it's wifom. i'm not saying it's "good" play by any means. but trying to get the claims to be either confirmed or denied is imo risking outting them ("further")

im terriable at make quotes somethign always goes wrong

So if i'm right on norra. Then based on the fact that golden jumped on norra with a brief initial post, pushing noraa up to e-3. Although shortly later he did elaborate.


This is something I find is done more by town than scum. Although if i'm wrong on nora being a fellow townie. Then that does undermine that aspect of the read. As simply I've only seen one scum wagon reach 4 in rvs and the 4th vote was that player's partner.

VOTE: Battle Mage

You have no way out of this, scum!BM

In post 620, Noraa wrote:I've barely rolled town as shown by my only finished games being scum games but that doesn't mean that my reads are bad. Whether or not they *sound* good is one thing. Whether or not they are accurate is another. I couldn't care less that ur more experienced here than me. I'm putting my reads out there and you shouldn't be discrediting them.

You have 2 reads. One I know is wrong. The other I .

Yet, in response, you bitch and moan about it.

I don't get it.

I figure you're just scum who cba to read.

In post 613, Noraa wrote:Datisi I am 100% certain is very much capable of producing content yet I am not seeing much content. I think that may be a scumtell for him tho I have never played a game with him before so I couldn't say.

what do you consider "content"? because i feel like i've made content this game? like at least some? idk?

i don't know what i think about your reads marking everyone (?) meh/scummy and i'll think about that in the morning

In post 629, Noraa wrote:VOTE: Battle Mage

You have no way out of this, scum!BM

as discussed, i'm not interested in anything you say until you make some effort to read the thread and engage constructively. Will ignore, with discretion to point out scumminess.

In post 625, bob3141 wrote:

In post 577, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 496, bob3141 wrote:Im feeling a slight lean town lean on golden, as if golden was partnered with either of bm or noraa i just dont think he would come in and push the fresh idea that they are just scum getting in early bussing.

Especially after choosing to vote for the one with the largest wagon. Of the two players he has stated as being svs. And not only that but a fourth vote on the first wagon. An ice breaker often done by town.

Golden is a townlean because he isn't scum with Noraa? eh, I don't know man, needs a re-think. Noraa and me is either T v S, or T v T. In either case, scum benefit from pushing the S v S agenda to guarantee at least 1 mislynch, if not two.

Golden is a townlean because he isn't scum with Noraa? eh, I don't know man, needs a re-think. Noraa and me is either T v S, or T v T. In either case, scum benefit from pushing the S v S agenda to guarantee at least 1 mislynch, if not two


I'm leaning towards it being tvt. My gut keeps telling me that noraa is just a fellow townie who has made a bad early push. Certainly the possibility that its tvs as noraas push was rather scummy. But the fact she didn't try and back track on her push on you. Even when she was asked why she thought it was scummy rather than just anti-town. She continued to push a set of reads on you that ultimately stemmed from that flawed premises.

I dont agree with this. I can definitely see why people would SR my tunneling however it was far less aggressive than BM's tunneling. And tunneling that hard in the first ten damn pages is not something town would do bc town know literally nothing about the setup and are lost asf before some flips. I could see scum doing it but I can't see town doing that. I dont see how my logic is flawed. Tunneling that aggressively is definitely a scumtell.

Oh shit, Bobs one of these 'you have to tread my entire back catalogue to get my attention' types...

You just met your match.

In post 626, Datisi wrote:

In post 617, Battle Mage wrote:To be extra clear, I did not risk outting a PR by

trying to get people to confirm their existing claims

. Nor did Shelly. The only ones who did were Menalque and possibly slightly Ico. You suggesting otherwise, is scummy to me, because you're an experienced player and Mod and you know that ain't right.

the bolded is what i see as risking outting PRs - there's a chance the claim is a meme, there's a chance it's wifom. i'm not saying it's "good" play by any means. but trying to get the claims to be either confirmed or denied is imo risking outting them ("further")

i didn't think for a second it was a meme, nor did i anticipate someone fakeclaiming neighbour as a gambit. I don't think that's my fault.

In post 633, Noraa wrote:

In post 625, bob3141 wrote:

In post 577, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 496, bob3141 wrote:Im feeling a slight lean town lean on golden, as if golden was partnered with either of bm or noraa i just dont think he would come in and push the fresh idea that they are just scum getting in early bussing.

Especially after choosing to vote for the one with the largest wagon. Of the two players he has stated as being svs. And not only that but a fourth vote on the first wagon. An ice breaker often done by town.

Golden is a townlean because he isn't scum with Noraa? eh, I don't know man, needs a re-think. Noraa and me is either T v S, or T v T. In either case, scum benefit from pushing the S v S agenda to guarantee at least 1 mislynch, if not two.

Golden is a townlean because he isn't scum with Noraa? eh, I don't know man, needs a re-think. Noraa and me is either T v S, or T v T. In either case, scum benefit from pushing the S v S agenda to guarantee at least 1 mislynch, if not two


I'm leaning towards it being tvt. My gut keeps telling me that noraa is just a fellow townie who has made a bad early push. Certainly the possibility that its tvs as noraas push was rather scummy. But the fact she didn't try and back track on her push on you. Even when she was asked why she thought it was scummy rather than just anti-town. She continued to push a set of reads on you that ultimately stemmed from that flawed premises.

I dont agree with this. I can definitely see why people would SR my tunneling however it was far less aggressive than BM's tunneling. And tunneling that hard in the first ten damn pages is not something town would do bc town know literally nothing about the setup and are lost asf before some flips. I could see scum doing it but I can't see town doing that. I dont see how my logic is flawed. Tunneling that aggressively is definitely a scumtell.

BORING

In post 628, bob3141 wrote:So if i'm right on norra. Then based on the fact that golden jumped on norra with a brief initial post, pushing noraa up to e-3. Although shortly later he did elaborate.

This is something I find is done more by town than scum. Although if i'm wrong on nora being a fellow townie. Then that does undermine that aspect of the read. As simply I've only seen one scum wagon reach 4 in rvs and the 4th vote was that player's partner.

er, not sure i get the first part? like why is golden being town for jumping on noraa wagon dependant on noraa being town?

pedit: lol battle mage, never had VTs memeclaim roles only to then have actual PRs counterclaim them? you're missing out man

In post 628, bob3141 wrote:So if i'm right on norra. Then based on the fact that golden jumped on norra with a brief initial post, pushing noraa up to e-3. Although shortly later he did elaborate.


This is something I find is done more by town than scum. Although if i'm wrong on nora being a fellow townie. Then that does undermine that aspect of the read. As simply I've only seen one scum wagon reach 4 in rvs and the 4th vote was that player's partner.

I played a newbie game a few months ago where we nearly lynched scum on page 1 due to an over-eager RVS wagon. we still won

In post 637, Datisi wrote:

In post 628, bob3141 wrote:So if i'm right on norra. Then based on the fact that golden jumped on norra with a brief initial post, pushing noraa up to e-3. Although shortly later he did elaborate.

This is something I find is done more by town than scum. Although if i'm wrong on nora being a fellow townie. Then that does undermine that aspect of the read. As simply I've only seen one scum wagon reach 4 in rvs and the 4th vote was that player's partner.

er, not sure i get the first part? like why is golden being town for jumping on noraa wagon dependant on noraa being town?

pedit: lol battle mage, never had VTs memeclaim roles only to then have actual PRs counterclaim them? you're missing out man

i'm showing my age here, but i don't really know what a memeclaim is.

In post 631, Datisi wrote:

In post 613, Noraa wrote:Datisi I am 100% certain is very much capable of producing content yet I am not seeing much content. I think that may be a scumtell for him tho I have never played a game with him before so I couldn't say.

what do you consider "content"? because i feel like i've made content this game? like at least some? idk?

i don't know what i think about your reads marking everyone (?) meh/scummy and i'll think about that in the morning

Dayum ur polite. The ruder equivalent would've been "ur not producing any either"
Hm I just feel like you aren't trying that hard to solve rn and that's feeling a bit off to me. Its more the overall vibe of ur posts is kinda this ~lazy~ vibe. (no offense intended and these type of things are hard to tell over the internet anyways so disregard if ur town and know that scumhunter Noraa is onto u if ur scum <.<)

In post 632, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 629, Noraa wrote:VOTE: Battle Mage

You have no way out of this, scum!BM

as discussed, i'm not interested in anything you say until you make some effort to read the thread and engage constructively. Will ignore, with discretion to point out scumminess.

that's rich considering I dont think there's a single one of my posts that mentioned u, even slightly, that u didn't reply to.

In post 621, Alonzo wrote:

In post 618, Battle Mage wrote:i'm in favour of elimming in the pool of 'lurkers' today, to stop the game stagnating. anyone with fewer than 15 posts so far.

Which means: Dox, Taylor, Piis and Iama.

I think you know I like Dox for the blox.

Approved.

Alonzo, did you notice that you were missing from this list even though you fit the criteria at the time?

are you approving lurker purge in general, or specifically the Golden Paradox wagon?

In post 641, iamausername wrote:

In post 621, Alonzo wrote:

In post 618, Battle Mage wrote:i'm in favour of elimming in the pool of 'lurkers' today, to stop the game stagnating. anyone with fewer than 15 posts so far.

Which means: Dox, Taylor, Piis and Iama.

I think you know I like Dox for the blox.

Approved.

Alonzo, did you notice that you were missing from this list even though you fit the criteria at the time?

are you approving lurker purge in general, or specifically the Golden Paradox wagon?

he actually didn't - he had 15 posts at the time I posted. Although more importantly, Golden had 14.

off to bed now! i may not sleep well of course, knowing that scumhunter nora is onto me.

In post 633, Noraa wrote:

In post 625, bob3141 wrote:

In post 577, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 496, bob3141 wrote:Im feeling a slight lean town lean on golden, as if golden was partnered with either of bm or noraa i just dont think he would come in and push the fresh idea that they are just scum getting in early bussing.

Especially after choosing to vote for the one with the largest wagon. Of the two players he has stated as being svs. And not only that but a fourth vote on the first wagon. An ice breaker often done by town.

Golden is a townlean because he isn't scum with Noraa? eh, I don't know man, needs a re-think. Noraa and me is either T v S, or T v T. In either case, scum benefit from pushing the S v S agenda to guarantee at least 1 mislynch, if not two.

Golden is a townlean because he isn't scum with Noraa? eh, I don't know man, needs a re-think. Noraa and me is either T v S, or T v T. In either case, scum benefit from pushing the S v S agenda to guarantee at least 1 mislynch, if not two


I'm leaning towards it being tvt. My gut keeps telling me that noraa is just a fellow townie who has made a bad early push. Certainly the possibility that its tvs as noraas push was rather scummy. But the fact she didn't try and back track on her push on you. Even when she was asked why she thought it was scummy rather than just anti-town. She continued to push a set of reads on you that ultimately stemmed from that flawed premises.

I dont agree with this. I can definitely see why people would SR my tunneling however it was far less aggressive than BM's tunneling. And tunneling that hard in the first ten damn pages is not something town would do bc town know literally nothing about the setup and are lost asf before some flips. I could see scum doing it but I can't see town doing that. I dont see how my logic is flawed. Tunneling that aggressively is definitely a scumtell.

In post 643, Battle Mage wrote:off to bed now! i may not sleep well of course, knowing that scumhunter nora is onto me.

Sorry not sure why my phone is c&p all those.

Noraa do you know how to iso individual players? Your generalised reads read like you don't.

Mage- Behave!

Username- my name's not on the list because maybe knew he'd be in a world of shit if it was? But id be in your list dependant on the size of the world of shit mage would be in?

I don't understand the question.

TGP and Taylor count as just ins by my metric, I don't know who lama is, and piis was the guy Bob voted in rvs.

In post 637, Datisi wrote:

In post 628, bob3141 wrote:So if i'm right on norra. Then based on the fact that golden jumped on norra with a brief initial post, pushing noraa up to e-3. Although shortly later he did elaborate.

This is something I find is done more by town than scum. Although if i'm wrong on nora being a fellow townie. Then that does undermine that aspect of the read. As simply I've only seen one scum wagon reach 4 in rvs and the 4th vote was that player's partner.

er, not sure i get the first part? like why is golden being town for jumping on noraa wagon dependant on noraa being town?

pedit: lol battle mage, never had VTs memeclaim roles only to then have actual PRs counterclaim them? you're missing out man

It's a town lean based on the fact I don't feel that scum would jump on nora if she was in town that way at that point of the wagon. It was the first wagon to form and was pretty much still within rvs. Even if it wasn't even based on rvs votes.

And more often than not that first wagon is in fact all town with it being on town more often than scum.

Don't think i have ever seen scum jump onto that 4th spot. Especially not with their first vote that also inst a rvs Vote. As Well as being their first post in the game.

However, when that first wagon is scum I don't seem to hold back as much. Only seen one scum wagon in rvs and that was bussed quickly in that fourth spot. So dont know how true it holds for scum wagons.

And since i'm leaning toward Noraa being town on balance I think golden is likely town if i'm right on nora.

Bob what's your read on Alonzo?