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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:05 pm
by punpun
And now I am complete

~pun

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:05 pm
by Infinity 324
pun and punpun are giving new meaning to the term "scum theater", I'm kinda digging it honestly :)

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:06 pm
by punpun
gonna be real it feels like our elim is trying to get pushed through super quick now in the face of a claim without any analysis and that there are super flimsy reasons to disregard it but ya know.

and thank you, infinity.

now i must return to the lake... (saltwater by the way because we're a BUNYIP!!)

~punpun

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:06 pm
by punpun
damn, you nearly sniped my pagetop there lol

I think we're inventing some kind of messed up town theater

relish it, drink it in

~pun

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:07 pm
by punpun
In post 627, punpun wrote:gonna be real it feels like our elim is trying to get pushed through super quick now in the face of a claim without any analysis and that there are super flimsy reasons to disregard it but ya know.
~pun

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:08 pm
by Alchemist21
In post 621, punpun wrote:WAIT THERE IS ONE LAST THING

~pun
Image

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:08 pm
by punpun
Spoiler:
Image

~punpun

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:15 pm
by Alchemist21
I also never see the character called a bunyip on the fan wiki

https://the-shape-of-water.fandom.com/w ... ibian_Man)

Apparently the main character is some Amazon River god while a bunyip is an aboriginal myth.

I don’t see the Shape of Water in this list of pop culture references either
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunyip

So I don’t even know where you’re getting Bunyip from.

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:17 pm
by Alchemist21
Holy shit it’s an actual boon role

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... Toonz_Game

I stand corrected about the legitimacy of the claim.

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:20 pm
by Alchemist21
Could be a fakeclaim, could be real but scum, but at least I know they got it from boon.

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:21 pm
by Infinity 324
Makes sense, it does say it can be any alignment so

I think they made up the part about being the main character, since we don't have flavored roles.

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:25 pm
by Alchemist21
They might have looked up that it’s a creature that lives in water and made that assumption.

And maybe boon did actually do that because it would be somewhat fitting

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:08 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 597, punpun wrote:OHHH the thing in the movie was a bunyip

WE ARE LITERALLY THE PROTAGONIST OF THE FILM

~pun
No it’s not wtf
Also this your claim?

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:55 pm
by The Bulge
In post 634, Alchemist21 wrote:Could be a fakeclaim, could be real but scum, but at least I know they got it from boon.
In post 635, Infinity 324 wrote:Makes sense, it does say it can be any alignment so

I think they made up the part about being the main character, since we don't have flavored roles.
In post 636, Alchemist21 wrote:They might have looked up that it’s a creature that lives in water and made that assumption.

And maybe boon did actually do that because it would be somewhat fitting
I'd be willing to buy this, except...
In post 596, punpun wrote:i did not watch the shape of water to try and figure out what a bunyip was just for people not to believe us!!

~punpun
In post 597, punpun wrote:OHHH the thing in the movie was a bunyip

WE ARE LITERALLY THE PROTAGONIST OF THE FILM

~pun

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:55 pm
by The Bulge
In post 530, punpun wrote:
In post 519, The Bulge wrote:
In post 485, punpun wrote:Bulge, what pings you about how we converged on Alchemist?

~pun
Spoiler: posted 8 seconds apart
In post 310, punpun wrote:I dislike Creature's attitude and outlook of the game immensely, but I also think he's town for it.

Image

Alchemist feels kinda of awkward this game. He lacks personality in his posts and he's being pretty formal/serious. I don't know if that's a scumtell for him specifically but I'm too lazy to check right now, and I think overall, it's probably a slightly scummy thing on average. Oh, also, I realise part of this is due to the way Alchemist capitalises "town" and "townread" and terms like that; I've always found that weird and scummy for some reason. I'm trying to filter that part out though and I still get the same general vibes.

VOTE: Alchemist

~pun
In post 311, punpun wrote:i am too tired to really post coherently and i should try to post at more decent times, but i still think gamma is town. as things have progress i've found myself agreeing with a lot of his thoughts on things (mostly regarding taylor who i still have a not-great feeling about, especially given her interactions with infinity. she also seems as if she's trying to disengage with pressure being placed upon her on this page which makes me even more).

pun and i talked some though and we both have the same thoughts about alchemist. my townread on him has dwindled as the game moved onward, and he feels as if his posts are stilted in a way that other people aren't. i do wonder if part of that is because it's a fairly quiet game and there's less to chew on/work with but even that feels like an issue scum would struggle with way more.

other than that, infinity has crept up my townlist more, as has derp (i like the tone of his posts). creature is extremely cranky but, like pun said, he feels town regardless.

~punpun

punhead's given reasons for voting Alchemist are
extremely
weak and I fail to see how that could ever possibly sway the other head's opinion. if you discussed your differing reads of alchemist with each other, what else did you talk about? surely there were other reasons given in private.
was intentional. we were aiming for the same second, but alas. perfection is hard to strive for.

~pun
are you going to respond or just banter about the single least consequential part of my post?
In post 531, punpun wrote:
In post 520, The Bulge wrote:
In post 486, punpun wrote:
In post 474, The Bulge wrote:I didnt catch that before but the mocking tone in the first part doesnt really line up to me with how theyre choosing to deal with the slot in that same post
Explain why? I'm irritated with what he's saying in calling the game boring, saying it's a loss due to the playerlist etc, it's negative and anti-fun. But still, I thought it was town-indicative at the time because it draws a lot of negative attention, and scum usually aren't so bold.

~pun
it's minor but it's mostly a language thing. your tone comes off as somewhat... passionate? in the first and last lines. the "I've kinda shelved him as probtown" line sticks out to me. your feelings toward the slot don't seem genuine in that post.
All of the things you're pointing out here are towny, not scummy. "I've kinda shelved him as probtown" is just the way I talk.

~pun
what is this supposed to mean? yea, a passionate tone could very well be town-indicative on its own, but not when it is faked.

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:55 pm
by The Bulge
In post 533, punpun wrote:
In post 82, punpun wrote:
In post 68, Sailor Senshi wrote:Sailor Senshi
Derp
Gamma Emerald
Alchemist21
Tayl0r Swift
Creature
Punpun
Infinity 324

I think I'm approximately here as of this page

I'm letting the other scouts handle voting tho

-merc
Weird that you have a full readlist with everyone on separate tiers already. My only read right now is that I townlean Gamma.

Explain the derp and Infinity reads.

VOTE: Sailors

~pun
In post 84, punpun wrote:
In post 69, Infinity 324 wrote:Why is pun scum?
Also weird that Infinity asks about pun and not himself who's at the bottom. Why weren't you curious about yourself, Infinity?

~pun
In post 99, punpun wrote:
In post 97, Infinity 324 wrote:I'm just an awkward person in general I think, I'm also trying to get the game going since it's been a bit slow so far.
VOTE: Infinity

Why was your vote on Swift naked if you were trying to get the game going?

~pun
In post 103, punpun wrote:
In post 100, Sailor Senshi wrote:
In post 57, derp wrote:
In post 54, Sailor Senshi wrote:derp you're not an alt of hewhoswims are you?

-M
no i am a terrible swimmer
this was actually pretty funny. my townlean here is just a spicy hot take off this one post, I'll need more to cement it
You think ability to be funny is something that's alignment indicative?

~pun
Want to explain why us solving and questioning people is "bad-faith questions and pushes"?

~pun
these are all reaches, each trying to poke at an inconsistency that doesn't exist.

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:57 pm
by The Bulge
I claim innocent child, here I crumbed it
In post 526, The Bulge wrote:if nothing else, referring to himself in the
third person
should have done it, but that's not important. it's the toneshift that stood out most to me.

there isn't a lot I can point to that makes you lean scum to me, i think to a certain degree i just always read you as scum.
In post 463, The Bulge wrote:what's up

UNVOTE:

taylor [1]
obvtown,
infinity [2]
obvtown
i could do
alchemist [3]
or gamma or punpun
Alchemist21 -> 21 legal drinking age -> sinful adult
= do the opposite -> innocent child

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:57 pm
by Infinity 324
In post 592, punpun wrote:if there's a real doc/Neapolitan, they should counterclaim us but they don't exist most likely, so there won't be any CCs
This is just a scumclaim so

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:58 pm
by The Bulge
In post 555, Creature wrote:I have Aster and The Great Wall in mind. Both were pretty damn obvious scum and yet endgamed while shitting all over a widely townread me.
you know who the heads are?

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:58 pm
by The Bulge
In post 562, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think the bad faith push this pun talked about makes sense, especially on me
where did I push you?

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:58 pm
by Infinity 324
made me lol

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:58 pm
by The Bulge
In post 592, punpun wrote:*shrug* we're past it

if you're not convinced, you're not convinced

if there's a real doc/Neapolitan, they should counterclaim us but they don't exist most likely, so there won't be any CCs

~pun
lmao I do actually think this is a real scumslip as well

alchemist could be bussing here. I certainly would be

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:02 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I’m just lolling at punpun apparently flavor claiming when our roles lacked flavor

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:11 pm
by The Bulge
I don't know why they'd have fakeclaims if we have no flavoured roles. my guess is they found the role on the wiki and lied about watching the movie to make it seem more fitting (I ctrl+f'd the script and found zero instances of the word 'bunyip') and maybe got carried away with that, playing up the "main character can't be scum" narrative until it evolved into the actual flavour claim they're running with.

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:11 pm
by The Bulge
*mod-provided fakeclaims, that is