In post 609, Mad Hatters Tea Party wrote:Well that was truly frustrating. I had made a rather detailed post, and somehow my browser decided to have some fun it and tossed it aside. Bah.
To quickly surmise, instead of being a proverbial jack hammer and hitting the same point repeatedly, perhaps acknowledge the answer, detail why it is no good, and ask for the detail you require, perhaps even acknowledging politely that it may be you will not get the answer you are looking for.
As for the role... For now I consider it mechanically confirmed. As an anti-town role and assuming a 2 person faction I would consider this to lower their power for this day phase by approximately 40% - unless that vote is placed upon a slot which has become a viable elimination for the day. As town, it does considerably less damage, I'd estimate around 8% of the towns power has been lost during this day phase.
Given the various claims that only anti-town need fear the game, I am slightly suspicious of the awareness of prizes. Tomorrow will provide more information as to the overall impact of the role on the game. Their dedication to it and perceived transparency so far I find to be town aligned. Their rating of my gif I find to be insulting, but fair.
For today, I would suggest leaving them be and watching them when we have a greater knowledge of their potential, and there are other slots worthy of prodding and poking.
I consider myself well versed in the mechanics and shenanigans of the theme queues. I must confess, I am far from what would be considered a good mafia player and my W/L ratio is abysmal. I do look forward to running game weird shenanigans once again... PenguinPower will be amused to learn I was around at the time of 2of4 newbie setups, and was in one of the initial games of that setup. I have taken a rather long break in the interim.
I mean, when I realises Nancy thought she wasn't answering the question I did explain what I wanted from an answer, but the issue is that after explaining what I was looking for, Nancy still thought she had answered the question meanwhile I thought she was continuing to ignore it which I think led me to explain it again?
You are wrong as it is a 3 person scumteam as per the opening posts. We also don't know whether there is more to S&M's role as the results of the competition could have further implications that are being held back, eg PenguinPower could now be being secretly tracked or something.
Disclaimer: I am not saying that S&M have actually held back information about their role. This is a possibility and nothing more.
In other words, there is potential for the role to have undisclosed scum power to it.
I feel like you might not be too well versed with the possible scope of theme games nowadays so it might be best if you don't base too much on spec
Tbf - mod confirmed koalawang was real. We don’t actually know your role.
Anciliarry: do you have to follow my vote or are you stuck for the day on korina?
cherry picked obviously. The above posts are quite protown and that just doesn't feel like town penguin.
Going through penguins iso, what I've found is that in this game he has a lot of shitposts that seem more purposeful.
I'm not great at looking into shitposts but when the posts are like spread on in a way that they connect but are two different posts, that is generally purposeful.
So in penguin's town game he also shitposts but it doesn't feel purposeful with intent to shitpost. It feels natural and is just
there
but here it feels like he's trying to replicate his town game and knows there's a lot of shitposts so he's like throwing up shitposts everywhere.
he's asking occasionally towny questions to try to replicate a towny trying to advance game state but if you take a look at his posts in other games, he doesn't have these and his shitposts feel more relaxed and natural.
Another very noticeable difference is that penguin is very clearly replying to people more than he did in his first posts in the other game. As in DIRECTLY QUOTING which is like a clear "hello hello I am engaging YOU right now" whereas in the town game there was almost none of that at the beginning
He's missing some of his snarky personality here - its kinda dull here
Peguin is trying his ass off to shake me off by discrediting here. He's done it multiple times already...
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:00 am
by Noraabear
And I have a problem with him not thinking I'm scum because he and I have play style clash and given my super scummy claim, he for sure suspects me here if town
he's gonna reply and be like "yeah but ur town game sucks shit so I could see it"
but nah, that's not how play style clashes work.
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:00 am
by PenguinPower
because your tells are shit and i don't wish to get in a protracted 1 on 1 with you.
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:05 am
by Mad Hatters Tea Party
Even then, it would still be around a 27% impact in my estimations.
You say nowadays as though this isn't just an alternative account I'm using, and a character I am portraying to ensure no connection is made back.
I have been back on site for a while. I am fully aware it is far to early to begin clearing slots on mechanical information, I am aware there is possible drawbacks to create balancing. My own role allows some good shenanigans and I full expect there to be further shenanigans that interact with my role. My loyalty to my reads will be truly tested and tomorrow will bring forward an entirely different gamestate - barring "Koalawang" of course.
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:07 am
by Mad Hatters Tea Party
Ah the Nora tunnel begins. Strap in fellows, this could be a shaky ride!
You say nowadays as though this isn't just an alternative account I'm using, and a character I am portraying to ensure no connection is made back.
I have been back on site for a while. I am fully aware it is far to early to begin clearing slots on mechanical information, I am aware there is possible drawbacks to create balancing. My own role allows some good shenanigans and I full expect there to be further shenanigans that interact with my role. My loyalty to my reads will be truly tested and tomorrow will bring forward an entirely different gamestate - barring "Koalawang" of course.
I said nowadays to avoid insulting you if you were an old player because old players have big egos
It was a more tactful way of me doubting your knowledge of the theme queue
You say nowadays as though this isn't just an alternative account I'm using, and a character I am portraying to ensure no connection is made back.
I have been back on site for a while. I am fully aware it is far to early to begin clearing slots on mechanical information, I am aware there is possible drawbacks to create balancing. My own role allows some good shenanigans and I full expect there to be further shenanigans that interact with my role. My loyalty to my reads will be truly tested and tomorrow will bring forward an entirely different gamestate - barring "Koalawang" of course.
I said nowadays to avoid insulting you if you were an old player because old players have big egos
It was a more tactful way of me doubting your knowledge of the theme queue
It is appreciated. I never allowed the ego of my tweenage self to become overinflated. To be frank I was far to nervous and worried about offending people and being bad at the game. I would say I have matured, alas I have not. The difference now is that I no longer care about being bad, provided I endeavour to make the best efforts I can, enjoy the game, and at least pretend to know what on earth I am doing while earnestly attempting to win.
You’re right, I wouldn’t be modkilled, however my Koalawang role woud be cancelled.
Actually now I'm starting to doubt S&M. I don't believe this
Ask Krazy. He obviously can’t confirm anything about my role to you but ask him what he does to players who ignore post restrictions. Hopefully that will put an end to this nonsense once and for all.
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:14 am
by PenguinPower
Yeah - what S&M said about the penalty for breaking post restrictions is accurate.
In post 614, Noraabear wrote:pretty sure Penguin is scum for even producing content this early just saying.
Unless your name is skitteR, northsidegal, or cheekyteeky don't pretend you can read me.
my name is none of the above and i can read you like a book. you're probably town here because Noraa's meta is backwards - you post less as scum, not more.
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:22 pm
by Battle Mage
In post 628, Noraabear wrote:Peguin is trying his ass off to shake me off by discrediting here. He's done it multiple times already...
why is Penguin discrediting you scum-indicative? Spoiler: it's not
Tbf - mod confirmed koalawang was real. We don’t actually know your role.
Anciliarry: do you have to follow my vote or are you stuck for the day on korina?
cherry picked obviously. The above posts are quite protown and that just doesn't feel like town penguin.
what? Penguin looks town so must be scum. gotcha
In post 627, Noraabear wrote:
Going through penguins iso, what I've found is that in this game he has a lot of shitposts that seem more purposeful.
I'm not great at looking into shitposts but when the posts are like spread on in a way that they connect but are two different posts, that is generally purposeful.
So in penguin's town game he also shitposts but it doesn't feel purposeful with intent to shitpost. It feels natural and is just
there
but here it feels like he's trying to replicate his town game and knows there's a lot of shitposts so he's like throwing up shitposts everywhere.
ah, U-turn, so now Penguin's posting is not pro-town, it's just "shit"? how generous. but more importantly, since when did voting for someone because they are playing to their town-meta become a thing? baffling
I'd say all null and par for the course with noraa
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:31 pm
by Battle Mage
can someone give me a list of claims and mech stuff? not my forte
like, coroner for dog makes sense, since you bury a body in a hole, and dogs dig holes, so it'd make sense i'd dig up our last elim, but how does someone who appears innocent while being scum make sense for a snow leopard?
seems to make perfect sense to me flavour-wise. snow leopard - looks cute and cuddly, but liable to maim you without provocation. incredibly apt for noraa - was this pre-loaded?
I am fully aware it is far to early to begin clearing slots on mechanical information, I am aware there is possible drawbacks to create balancing. My own role allows some good shenanigans and I full expect there to be further shenanigans that interact with my role. My loyalty to my reads will be truly tested and tomorrow will bring forward an entirely different gamestate - barring "Koalawang" of course.
The difference now is that I no longer care about being bad, provided I endeavour to make the best efforts I can, enjoy the game, and at least pretend to know what on earth I am doing while earnestly attempting to win.