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Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 2:40 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 553, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 552, Dunnstral wrote:UNVOTE:
What is this?
In post 554, VFP wrote:If Dragons ever flips red, we should suspect Dunn for taking pressure of his buddy!
In post 555, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Dunn wasn't voting RLotus, RLotus is still L-1... But I think Dunn forgot who he was voting for which is concerning.
In post 556, VFP wrote:Thats why I say if Dragons flips red.
Also, I feel like Scum Dunn says a word or 2 if the unvote was from a Lotus mindset.
There's a votecount right above my post

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 2:43 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 622, Andresvmb wrote:What I call “Executions for information” type arguments are so common around here for some reason.
I don't like these arguments but from experience it's a pretty even spread of town giving bad reasoning/scum giving excuses to eliminate

Ask them what information you'll be getting before or after the elimination and they almost never can bring forth anything comprehensible

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 2:48 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 626, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 622, Andresvmb wrote:What I call “Executions for information” type arguments are so common around here for some reason.
I don't like these arguments but from experience it's a pretty even spread of town giving bad reasoning/scum giving excuses to eliminate

Ask them what information you'll be getting before or after the elimination and they almost never can bring forth anything comprehensible
Really? Oy. So far, I’ve mostly seen Scum do it. But you’re right, Town do it too. If I’m not wrong, Gamma fell prey to this exact same argument literally the last finished game we had hahaha so fair enough.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:09 pm
by Lukewarm
From the way that people are talking about my Kyouko read is very clear that no one in the thread except Kyouko read posts - 259

Spoiler:
(especially the people who think that Gamma has anything to do with my Kyouko read)

I was voting Kyouko because of their early posts, and then the way they very selectively responded to my push on them

The Gamma stuff was unrelated to that read, but I do think that a Kyouko flip would help me sort Gamma better.
In post 622, Andresvmb wrote:That they were defending Town and could be White Knighting? Because that’s an option you haven’t explicitly stated but could be occurring.
... and I did explicitly state that option, and explained why I did not think that was the case in post


But I have also completely surrendered on this push. Currently sheeping instead.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:36 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 627, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 626, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 622, Andresvmb wrote:What I call “Executions for information” type arguments are so common around here for some reason.
I don't like these arguments but from experience it's a pretty even spread of town giving bad reasoning/scum giving excuses to eliminate

Ask them what information you'll be getting before or after the elimination and they almost never can bring forth anything comprehensible
Really? Oy. So far, I’ve mostly seen Scum do it. But you’re right, Town do it too. If I’m not wrong, Gamma fell prey to this exact same argument literally the last finished game we had hahaha so fair enough.
Actually I went back, and no it wasn’t Gamma at all. But one interesting thing I did end up doing is reading most of their ISO in a different game we played together. There was a lot of fire behind Gamma’s posts, and a lot of excellent points. Let me re-read them here, see how I feel.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:38 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
Hi Andre

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:40 pm
by Noraa
In post 618, RLotus wrote:
In post 580, Noraa wrote:UNVOTE:
Lotus please claim. I don't want a lolhammer and that's the only reason I'm unvoting
In post 603, Noraa wrote:I want a claim from lotus but unless he claims pr, he's dying today
In post 611, Noraa wrote:Gamma, Lotus, and Andres are going to need prods soon
I thought you said you
don't
want to be the town leader :P
its the end of the day. we need to come to a consensus...
please claim. ur the largest wagon rn and for very valid reasons. You make it sound like there are no reasons to SR you when the content you've been providing looks big but is actually nothing. Your tone this game has been extremely deflated and I think there are a lot of very valid reasons to be voting you here. Like the only reason I can think of is if ur a pr but even if that's the case, so? Ur run up. We have less than 24 hours. You should claim. Isn't that how this works?

VOTE: Rlotus

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:42 pm
by Andresvmb
I think Gamma is Town. I see some of that some style posting I’ve seen before, some contrasting to play they’ve observed in the past, and some good observations. Don’t SR it at present.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:43 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 630, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Hi Andre
You don’t have any thoughts on my vote on you? Just saying hi? Haha

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:44 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 632, Andresvmb wrote:I think Gamma is Town. I see some of that some style posting I’ve seen before, some contrasting to play they’ve observed in the past, and some good observations. Don’t SR it at present.
What does this even mean

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:44 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko
That's E-1 again and VFP still has intent to hammer I believe

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:45 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 60, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 39, Noraa wrote:How interesting. UC voyager reminds me of unwnd and he's posted what like 3 posts?
I haven’t played with UCV in quite a while but he never struck me as the incisive mind type
This for example. Bringing up your prior experience with a player to form a read I thought was Town positive. I saw you do the same thing here: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12484340.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:46 pm
by Noraa
Lotus, claim. we don't have the time for this. Claim and I'll unvote so we can get some discussion in to either start a new wagon or get the most out of your flip.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:46 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko
Ah Andre unvoted nm, E-2

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:47 pm
by Noraa
also I've come to a conclusion. I believe Dunn is town. 99% accuracy

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:48 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 140, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 135, Noraa wrote:at least I have never met someone who could trick me once I got their meta nailed down >.<
Not to be rude, but I do feel like you've at least had false starts in this regard, times you thought you had it figured out but found your body of work to be off. As such, I'd like some examples of who you've managed to figure out over time.
Same here. And I have seen the same thing your pointing too. So I thought this was a good observation. And asking for someone to refine a view point I thought was Town positive.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:48 pm
by Andresvmb
^you’re* pointing to*.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:49 pm
by Andresvmb
I don’t know my summary came all convoluted but I wanted to make the point that you’ve given me good vibes. I guess you could summarize it that way.

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:50 pm
by Andresvmb
^@Gamma

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:53 pm
by Andresvmb
@Dunn, I believe you have a vote in RVS, an Unvote, some consensus reads, and not much else. Is there anyone you would like to push right now?

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:58 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
In post 633, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 630, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Hi Andre
You don’t have any thoughts on my vote on you? Just saying hi? Haha
Is boring. You're probably not scum with Lotus. If Lotus flips town I'll reevaluate

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:58 pm
by RLotus
In post 637, Noraa wrote:Lotus, claim. we don't have the time for this. Claim and I'll unvote so we can get some discussion in to either start a new wagon or get the most out of your flip.
Bargaining to get me to claim like that is hella weird

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:59 pm
by RLotus
And please enlighten me on the valid reasons I am scum read

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 3:59 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
RLotus wrote:
In post 637, Noraa wrote:Lotus, claim. we don't have the time for this. Claim and I'll unvote so we can get some discussion in to either start a new wagon or get the most out of your flip.
Bargaining to get me to claim like that is hella weird
It really is. I keep reading it like what

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 4:15 pm
by Noraa
I don't think its weird. we need a claim. we have less than a day. no shit we need a claim!!