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In post 624, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I don't really trust DGB's claim, is the thing. I also don't think a cop CCs another cop this early.

But you trust nom's?

Nom, who could sense that I got a guilty on him overnight, and decided to suddenly claim miller?

Where did I say that I trusted Nom's claim?

I would assume you don't trust the full claim of nom's, so what do you make of their constant softs? If you don't trust it, why do you suspect me if I was the one who roleblocked nom?

^@DGB

In post 628, Toogeloo wrote:^@DGB

The softs were inconsistent. First it was beneficial to end the day on a prime number page, which morphed to nom hammering on a prime number page.

Nom claimed that the benefit of doing this is to be a friendly neighbor.

But nom said he was a miller, but for incoherent reasons, decided not to claim this.

The obvious proper play is to claim miller day 1, then use the power at night and be a friendly neighbor miller.

In post 626, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Where did I say that I trusted Nom's claim?

You certainly seem to emphasize doubting me right now.

In post 630, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 626, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Where did I say that I trusted Nom's claim?

You certainly seem to emphasize doubting me right now.

Could you explain why me doubting you would make me trust Nom more?

Either you're all playing so bad you should be banned for it, or scum have worked out the most convoluted plan in history.
VOTE JAKE (who also claimed Miller on D2 and nobody seems to care)

One more thing: I bloody lost my bloody internet once bloody again (can anyone tell I'm bloody pissed?). Mobile posting sucks rocks

In post 621, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Well aktually i'm an informed miller and I got in-fo' that there's only 1 1-shot cawp

This, was satire.

Alright, today has been much more exciting! Here are my thoughts. I will say the first one with high confidence.
1. Exactly one of DBG and nomnomnom are town. DBG is really going in for the kill here, it's unimaginable that they are both scum. Why can't they both be town? Well, think about it. If they are both town, then the sheer number of coincidences that need to have happened to get to this point is far too high. nomnomnom just so happened to be a miller, and DBG just so happened to be the (one-shot) cop, and DBG just so happened to investigate the miller day 1? This is really unlikely. Even given that one of them is telling the truth, both sides have very unlikely stories.

Titus wrote:For those who believe nom's claim, explain why the mod would put in a miller when our cop only gets one shot?
(This is a discredit btw)

Your question also supports this conclusion.

Now for the next thought.
2. The one which is scum is DBG. Firstly, just in terms of post vibe, nomnomnom is more believable than DBG to me. DBG is pushing very hard for an early hammer, on the basis of nomnomnom having done an early hammer.
Secondly, and much more importantly, the cop claim is fake. Let's look at it:

The reason is that the claim.

In post 558, DrippingGoofball wrote:So, yeah, I am a one-shot cop, no point hiding it since I am vanilla now.

I investigated and obviously got a guilty.

The first reason this appears fake: If true, there is no point in hiding this claim. And yet, he waits a very long time to do so. With no breadcrumbs beforehand.

The second reason this appears fake: It's incredibly convenient. DBG writes this claim very shortly after nomnomnom claims miller. I.E. it comes right after confirmation that this claim is ok to make appears. If DBG is scum, it's just found a way to claim a role without any risk, push his wagon against nomnomnom even harder, and not have any responsibilities later with having claimed cop.

The third reason this appears fake: DBG has no positive reaction to nomnomnom claiming miller. Either you believe the claim or you don't, this claim means that he has no reason to be more aggressive than anyone else. The miller claim comes before the cop claim, so it should have some doubt. Why is DBG still pushing hard for an early hammer at this point? Before I can even wake up and say my opinion? He appears to want to silence the other opinions quickly.

So for these reasons, I think that we should

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

But I'm also fine with killing someone else. I don't think killing nomnomnom now is a great move, since they have to power to confirm themselves with their friendly neighbor ability. Remember, they were blocked by town. Who cares that the cop is dead? nomnomnom can literally just confirm their role tomorrow provided there isn't a scum roleblocker. Votes on nomnomnom today are just useless

Now another thing I find interesting is how much people are chasing nomnomnom pre-miller claim. Yes, he hammered town, but T3 did the exact same thing in a situation that was way worse (The Flea wagon was more justified and much later in the day than the MURDERCAT wagon, hammering was reasonable).


So I do feel pretty suspicious of those early votes by WhemeStar, Almost50, Galron, and Titus. They say "I'll sheep" but Literally just a naked vote with "DIE SCUM DIE" written above it. Uhhhhh

I also wanna briefly consider the information from MURDERCAT's doom. There are basically two reasons to NK him in particular: 1) He was close to conftown or 2) His suspicions were too close to the target. It's probably not 1, considering that MURDERCAT came right off of a full wagon, and I think that the only positive post others made about him was DG's 294 (small town points, definitely doesn't come close to balancing the above, though). I mean, most people feel sus to me though so maybe it was 1. In any case, 2) must have been a factor at least in part.

In post 360, MURDERCAT wrote:I think if I were to try to hero solve this would be my team:

{Almost50, theslimer3, Galron}

There's at least 1 scum in these 3. Not that knowing this is that helpful, 1 in 3 aren't the best odds. But there might be 2. IMO Galron is the most suspicious followed by Almost50, and theslimer seems fairly town to me.

In post 633, Jake The Wolfie wrote:

In post 621, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Well aktually i'm an informed miller and I got in-fo' that there's only 1 1-shot cawp

This, was satire.

and also poking fun at T3

Alright I remember thinking that this post was a joke, but I forgot that you also claimed that there's a 1 shot cop in it. That's reason 4 that DB's claim is suspicious AF

Day 2 VC #3

DrippingGoofball (1): Xlos (634)

Jake the Wolfie (4) (F-2): Jake the Wolfie (465), Almost50 (470), nomnomnom (477), T3 (616)

Titus (1): Toogeloo (606)

nomnomnom (4) (F-2): DrippingGoofball (466), Titus (468), Galron (469), WhemeStar (476)

Not Voting (1): theslimer3

In post 452, Jake The Wolfie wrote:

In post 450, Flea The Magician wrote:Well I honestly hope you're eliminated because I don't think you're town, your reason was just sooo baaaad.

Well, no, I'm not town.

In fact, I am a 3rd party.

I cannot die, even by a modkill performed by a player.

If Oicher, our lord and saviour, decides to modkill me, then I'll die.

Sorry I got mixed up with this post, ignore the last thing I said. Jake's post was after the claims occured.

God damn it. Mobile posting. I have no idea how to highlight (i.e. partial quote)

Anyway, imagine that I did quote the part where Xlos says he suspects sherp votes

Now this is my response:

I'll sheep then I'd vote DGB

But I actually still want Jake and typing DGB's full name just for a meme is not really worth the trouble

In post 638, Ircher wrote:

MathBlade replaces theslimer3.

Weall know what it means s for a slot to be replaced twice already, do 't we?

But I would feel bad denying Mathblade playing a game with this flavour so he's my tomorrow's push

In post 639, Almost50 wrote:But I actually still want Jake and typing DGB's full name just for a meme is not really worth the trouble

???

What could this mean

In post 35, DrippingGoofball wrote:I would like everyone to detail their relationship with math, your answers will be considered alignment-indicative.

@Mathblade, You must answer this. No reading the thread before you do.

Welcome.

I am me.

I love math and hate math.

My favorite math is pure math but applied has its uses.

I bet scum would use stats and not calculus.

Reading after civ game tonight.

In post 640, Almost50 wrote:

In post 638, Ircher wrote:

MathBlade replaces theslimer3.

Weall know what it means s for a slot to be replaced twice already, do 't we?

But I would feel bad denying Mathblade playing a game with this flavour so he's my tomorrow's push

I vibe with this.

In post 643, MathBlade wrote:I am me.

I love math and hate math.

My favorite math is pure math but applied has its uses.

I bet scum would use stats and not calculus.

Reading after civ game tonight.

I reliniquish my claim to post 314 but only to Math and only if he wants it.

Derp...

Sorry....

Well obviously that claim wasn't role related. My brother's nickname is Pi.

Well there's 3141.