@mara as town or scum or whatever i role i never ever give reads. i give poe which should be enough of a read.
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:50 am
by JamesTheNames
In post 626, cyrus62 wrote:@mara as town or scum or whatever i role i never ever give reads. i give poe which should be enough of a read.
If you're inherently not a town-aider at least we don't have to meta dive.
The use of self-meta roughly translates to:
"Look at me I am so town, I play like this whenever I am town, I am self aware of this and I definitely am not mafia taking advantage of this. It doesn't matter if I haven't helped town look at my meta."
Self-meta is scum indicative.
In post 626, cyrus62 wrote:@mara as town or scum or whatever i role i never ever give reads. i give poe which should be enough of a read.
If you're inherently not a town-aider at least we don't have to meta dive.
The use of self-meta roughly translates to:
"Look at me I am so town, I play like this whenever I am town, I am self aware of this and I definitely am not mafia taking advantage of this. It doesn't matter if I haven't helped town look at my meta."
Self-meta is scum indicative.
i only showed my meta to make sure redtea got it right not to say look at this. i was also saying i never give reads its just not how i play.
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:02 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
So Nero are you claiming your 3d20-rolled modifier was Ugly?
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:06 am
by cyrus62
In post 629, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:So Nero are you claiming your 3d20-rolled modifier was Ugly?
ahhhhh that means a cop will see someone as alien.
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:10 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
It does read like it's possible that RMH thought we were claiming our actual roles rather than 3d20 rolls, but if he thought that it doesnt make sense because why would I and redtea openly claim we were mafia?
Feel like he's trying to play it off like that now so it doesnt look like he claimed he rolled the exact same thing as thor. I do think Robert is PT-reliant so he is quite possibly our cult leader here, and maybe thinking we wanted him to roleclaim, not rollclaim, and he tried to fakeclaim something that someone else rolled because his real role is cult leader and he doesnt have a pt to advise him. If he were scum he would wait for advice in his pt before posting - he did it in Chrono Trigger Chronicles (the game where he PT-slipped and outed himself as scum while they were discussing fakeclaims in the PT)
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:12 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
We only have parity cops so they wont get an "alien" result, it should just be if the Ugly Townie is compared to another town player that they will appear to not be aligned
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:40 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
Oh and if we dont lim RMH today, if scum could shoot him that'd be scooby doo gucci jacuzzi and absolutely
100
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:11 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
Let's have RMH clarify whether he was claiming a role or a 3d20 roll. If it was a roll, RMH, claim the modifier you rolled as well. If it was a role claim, claim the modifier you actually received. Then, after RMH claims, Thor, can you claim the modifier you rolled on Town Roleblocker with your 3d20? If RMH was claiming a role and claims the wrong modifier we turbolim him
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:12 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
Dwlee can you slay RMH with me?
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:18 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
Ah scratch that about the RMH claim, I just reread his iso. It's clear what the gambit was meant to do and he claimed what he rolled, not his role. Also already hard claimed no modifier on his roll.
So thor, did you roll a modifier on your 3d20 roll? The third die.
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:33 am
by Nero Cain
Yes I got 9 9 18
Not sure if I buy the thor=scum. I mean I guess he could act like a bored/useless townie instead of being a bored/useless townie
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:37 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
Alright, only people that are conflicting then, considering Nero and Dragon's modifiers, is Cyrus/Thor/Cakez(technically, but unlikely because 2d20 reroll for modifiers)/and RMH
@mod is the vote count off or does ssbm get two votes .
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:54 am
by cyrus62
In post 640, cyrus62 wrote:I got a 7 7 1 it doesn't conflate with anything tpgo with no mod and rmh was trying to get a roleblocker to out them selves.
Come to think of it VOTE: rmh
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 7:16 am
by redtea
In post 591, Nero Cain wrote:Tea is being hesitant to vote me. I wonder what alignment that comes from? Also would make sense that tea doesn't think ssbm is scum bc tea actually knows ssbm isn't mafia.
okay I'm in the middle of reading but I had to pause here because- what? Excuse me? Hesitant to vote you? Did I ever even bring up voting you? If I did, is it not clearer than clear I want to eliminate cyrus right now?
What
are you talking about dude
In post 591, Nero Cain wrote:Also would make sense that tea doesn't think ssbm is scum bc tea actually knows ssbm isn't mafia.
Keep reaching dude. It's literally just a split difference in reads, or you're scum.
And honestly? Pretty sure she's in the pseudo-town-block at this point.
Alright show of hands, who thinks kyouko is relatively towny
In post 640, cyrus62 wrote:I got a 7 7 1 it doesn't conflate with anything tpgo with no mod and rmh was trying to get a roleblocker to out them selves.
Come to think of it VOTE: rmh
i strongly doubt this is the case. This only strengthens my sr of you.
In post 591, Nero Cain wrote:Tea is being hesitant to vote me. I wonder what alignment that comes from? Also would make sense that tea doesn't think ssbm is scum bc tea actually knows ssbm isn't mafia.
okay I'm in the middle of reading but I had to pause here because- what? Excuse me? Hesitant to vote you? Did I ever even bring up voting you? If I did, is it not clearer than clear I want to eliminate cyrus right now?
What
are you talking about dude
In post 591, Nero Cain wrote:Also would make sense that tea doesn't think ssbm is scum bc tea actually knows ssbm isn't mafia.
Keep reaching dude. It's literally just a split difference in reads, or you're scum.
And honestly? Pretty sure she's in the pseudo-town-block at this point.
Alright show of hands, who thinks kyouko is relatively towny
SirCakez #588
on one hand, I know this mechanics stuff is going to be important later, it's not useless (scum would want us to think so). On the other, it makes my head spin too haha.
Same about RMH, either low-hanging fruit or I just don't understand enough to see the actual scum indicators.
yeah cyrus is doing not great. Unless someone has a brilliant moment of clarity on his slot, a vote there would be appreciated.
bless kyouko im understanding some of her mechanics+scumhunting explanations
Spoiler: @Thor
In post 624, Thor Ragnarok wrote:Also, some players may have more than 1 role since 5 were added to the pool according to Cook, so it's possible someone has more roles than James's list of roles may let on
...5 rolls were fudged, not added, were they not?
In post 623, Thor Ragnarok wrote:Someone asked if I was an alt but I can't remember who. This is my new main, does that person know my old one? If you do, don't tell anyone since my meta was really easy to read and everyone could always tell when I was scum.
No I have no idea. Did you remember to tell the mods you made an alt? Don't want you to get banned
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 7:54 am
by redtea
In post 593, Nero Cain wrote:Sure I could buy that rmh is low hanging fruit but sometimes that's just scum. I mean, I feel like your vote on ssbm made sense and then t3 kinda made a big deal about it and called it scummy and then rmh comes in and just blindly sheep. That kinda play just feels a little scummy to me. Could he just be real bad? Sure I guess
I kind of agree here. Probably won't vote today unless he slips up big time, might consider it tomorrow. Just PL if it becomes to wifom-y.
I mean this could be you setting up an ME but. Soft agree for now.
In post 619, Nero Cain wrote:Re gambits: they are something that slot of low lvl players do and they fail like 8/10 times. Scum claim to do gambits for town cred/excuse bad play.
It's mostly null. You could argue that gambits mostly come from town bc there's more town in a game
^ s'why I don't entirely agree it makes him town, T3
In post 626, cyrus62 wrote:@mara as town or scum or whatever i role i never ever give reads. i give poe which should be enough of a read.
blatantly false, and the proof is in the pudding
Dragon made me realize I don't think I've played with cults in a long time. Does their recruitment action go through last? I.e. would a cop see a person who was culted that night as town, or no?
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 7:54 am
by redtea
Playstation web browser. genuinely bless your heart james.
In post 602, T3 wrote:I post from a black and white kindle paperwhite, get on my level:
pretty classy ngl
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:17 am
by SirCakez
Can someone ELI5 why Roberts roll claim makes him scum