Open 833: Twin Trap [Postgame]

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #625 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:03 pm

Why should we vote Vulture anyways.
@Noraa

Noraa · Post Post #626 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:03 pm

redtea can be scum but not for the reasons that I previously thought.

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #627 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:04 pm

Sometimes scum is just scum.
I don’t really see anything worth defending in their ISO.

Noraa · Post Post #628 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:04 pm

In post 625, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Why should we vote Vulture anyways.
@Noraa

vulture/redtea interactions feel fake. doesn't feel tvt

Vulture · Post Post #629 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:05 pm

I think it's subpar play, tbh, to undermine an ISO worth casing by saying 'they're not doing anything, it's town!' when there are also plausible explanations for why scum would react this way.

Vulture · Post Post #630 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:06 pm

I haven't interacted with redtea AFAIK. They called my case stupid, that's it.

Noraa · Post Post #631 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:06 pm

like what? scum wants to live more than anyone else in the game. i just dont see scum behaving this way and you hard pushing redtea is just not helping in the slightest.

Vulture · Post Post #632 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:06 pm

In post 630, Vulture wrote:I haven't interacted with redtea AFAIK. They called my case stupid, that's it.

So, like, you disagree with my case then even though we outlined, more or less, the same reasons to dislike redtea or you don't. There's no 'interaction' to judge.

Vulture · Post Post #633 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:07 pm

In post 631, Noraa wrote:like what? scum wants to live more than anyone else in the game. i just dont see scum behaving this way and you hard pushing redtea is just not helping in the slightest.

This makes no sense.

I'm hardpushing them. Yes. If they're town they can deign to respond to my case and talk to me instead of saying "just wanted to see what everyone else thinks before I decide if I need to run damage control."

Noraa · Post Post #634 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:09 pm

no there was interactions between the cases. i cant remember if it was direct or not but there was interactions that I found scummy. Initially I thought redtea was scum out of the two but now I'm not so certain

Noraa · Post Post #635 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:10 pm

In post 633, Vulture wrote:
In post 631, Noraa wrote:like what? scum wants to live more than anyone else in the game. i just dont see scum behaving this way and you hard pushing redtea is just not helping in the slightest.
This makes no sense.

I'm hardpushing them. Yes. If they're town they can deign to respond to my case and talk to me instead of saying "just wanted to see what everyone else thinks before I decide if I need to run damage control."

how in the world does that make more sense coming from scum than town? it literally doesn't make sense as either but makes a hell lot more sense as town than scum.

Tamora's Angel · Post Post #636 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:11 pm

VOTE: redtea

It can't be in elo and game has stalled.

Vulture · Post Post #637 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:11 pm

In post 634, Noraa wrote:no there was interactions between the cases. i cant remember if it was direct or not but there was interactions that I found scummy. Initially I thought redtea was scum out of the two but now I'm not so certain

Please quote where I have interacted with redtea beyond ISOing them.

Vulture · Post Post #638 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:11 pm

In post 635, Noraa wrote:
In post 633, Vulture wrote:
In post 631, Noraa wrote:like what? scum wants to live more than anyone else in the game. i just dont see scum behaving this way and you hard pushing redtea is just not helping in the slightest.
This makes no sense.

I'm hardpushing them. Yes. If they're town they can deign to respond to my case and talk to me instead of saying "just wanted to see what everyone else thinks before I decide if I need to run damage control."
how in the world does that make more sense coming from scum than town? it literally doesn't make sense as either but makes a hell lot more sense as town than scum.

It makes sense if scum are frozen and don't know what to do and they're unsure of how to reply. It's pretty simple.

Noraa · Post Post #639 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:11 pm

please hold i am searching

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #640 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:14 pm

It feels like Redteas given up, plain and simple.

Noraa · Post Post #641 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:14 pm

Also if this flips town, everyone spend this night thinking of all the reasons I DONT do whatever the fuck I just did as scum.
If it flips scum, I'm going to have one hell of an uphill battle tomorrow but I'm ready for it.

Hope catboi doesn't close thread soon

Vulture · Post Post #642 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:15 pm

Where are the interactions, please?

Noraa · Post Post #643 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:16 pm

In post 422, Vulture wrote:I read and can go in depth after work, but I am both individually and teamreading redtea and Noraa as scum. Redtea is my preferred vote between the two, as I think Noraa’s personality and approach lends itself to being scumread from me.

But if they’re teamed they just came into today pushing on each other and hard distancing which is funny. I wasn’t sure about this but the pivot from Deimos to redtea was a ! moment.

VOTE: redtea

I dont like this entrance post in hindsight

Vulture · Post Post #644 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:17 pm

Noraa · Post Post #645 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:18 pm

In post 533, redtea wrote:Vulture I just want you to know your case on me is atrociously stupid.

This was the response to like 7 different posts. I remember thinking that was a strange interaction.

It could come from different possibilities.
if redtea were town, they were overwhelmed and didnt know what to say
if scum, they wanted to just "end" the argument.

thats the best way to explain how its a negative interaction but it's hard to say who is scum

Noraa · Post Post #646 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:19 pm

In post 644, Vulture wrote:Why?

Feels like you did read up...

Vulture · Post Post #647 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:20 pm

In post 645, Noraa wrote:
In post 533, redtea wrote:Vulture I just want you to know your case on me is atrociously stupid.
This was the response to like 7 different posts. I remember thinking that was a strange interaction.

It could come from different possibilities.
if redtea were town, they were overwhelmed and didnt know what to say
if scum, they wanted to just "end" the argument.

thats the best way to explain how its a negative interaction but it's hard to say who is scum

...so, you said there were interactions and I said the only thing that redtea said was my case was stupid. I have already pointed this out. Where are the other interactions?

In post 646, Noraa wrote:
In post 644, Vulture wrote:Why?
Feels like you did read up...

Yes, I did. In fact, if you read the first two words of that post I said 'I read.'

Vulture · Post Post #648 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:20 pm

In post 643, Noraa wrote:
In post 422, Vulture wrote:
I read
and can go in depth after work, but I am both individually and teamreading redtea and Noraa as scum. Redtea is my preferred vote between the two, as I think Noraa’s personality and approach lends itself to being scumread from me.

But if they’re teamed they just came into today pushing on each other and hard distancing which is funny. I wasn’t sure about this but the pivot from Deimos to redtea was a ! moment.

VOTE: redtea
I dont like this entrance post in hindsight

Noraa · Post Post #649 (ISO) » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:21 pm

The interaction is unsettling in the sense that you are directly SRing while redtea is indirectly SRing. This interaction is just very scummy and likely SvT

TvT doesn't look like this. There is almost always a back and forth that is direct and straight forward for TvT
SvS always looks more natural than this. These are much harder to catch.
Makes the most sense as SvT