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In post 612, Bingle wrote:GL is pushing the idea that auro being aggressive and assuming that someone is scum until proven otherwise is scummy, when I think that's actually just a good way to make the pressure worth something.

I think maybe this is why we haven't seen eye to eye on stuff. I think you can be firm with pressure without making assumptions that someone is scum. I try (though don't always succeed) to maintain the mindset that most players are likely town until there's good evidence otherwise, just based on probability/Bayesian reasoning

In post 625, GuiltyLion wrote:most players are likely town until there's good evidence otherwise

No fun in that

575 leaves me vaguely unsettled, but I'm not sure why. Like... I don't think there's anything there I find objectionable, but it just doesn't feel bleeding town like I'd expect GL effort posting to feel.

I'm getting the vague sense that GL is leaning on theory to supplement his activity, but I don't know if that's confbias from the earlier scumread.

GL, can I get a tl;dr with only conclusions you've drawn from your analysis at your earliest convenience if you live through the night?

In post 627, Bingle wrote:GL, can I get a tl;dr with only conclusions you've drawn from your analysis at your earliest convenience if you live through the night?

yeah, definitely. I think probably my activity doesn't feel up to standard because my main suspect flaked out of the game and I was also fine with the counterwagon (in part due to multi ball). if I'm alive the picture will definitely be shaken up on D2 so I'll prob have more to ~ do ~

In post 625, GuiltyLion wrote:I think maybe this is why we haven't seen eye to eye on stuff. I think you can be firm with pressure without making assumptions that someone is scum. I try (though don't always succeed) to maintain the mindset that most players are likely town until there's good evidence otherwise, just based on probability/Bayesian reasoning

Sure, but people react more strongly if you treat them like they're guilty. I start the game with a bunch of suspects and try to figure out names I can trust from that.

I think I'm actually somewhere between you and Auro, in that I try to tailor whether I treat someone inno or guilty as a baseline to the individual player. For example, if you tell Nancy she's scum early she gets pissed and becomes super readable. If you try the same thing with a newbie, odds are decent they'll freak out and shut up regardless of alignment.

: CPR Doc could target Enchant

Almost50 signalling! Scum confirmed

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Roden salsa TvT makes me feel better about Darby. No reason for scum to lend weight to a new wagon when there’s dueling wagons on not your team.

Was anyone cheerleading the roden salsa fight?

So either everyone targeted A50 or only Team Fire did and somebody else got doc's and frozen, right?

Seems more likely monkey got tripled up

In post 638, Pavowski wrote:So either everyone targeted A50 or only Team Fire did and somebody else got doc's and frozen, right?

Seems more likely monkey got tripled up

Useless discussion, imo.

Actually… VOTE: pav

That’s potentially a very useful discussion for scum. Why did you bring it up?

In post 640, Bingle wrote:Actually… VOTE: pav

That’s potentially a very useful discussion for scum. Why did you bring it up?

Mostly because I want to confirm my understanding of mechanics. In what way does it benefit scum? Everybody on both scum teams knows what happened.

Actually I guess they don't necessarily, withdrawing that

Fire team doesn't know what ice team did, I am dumb

I thought that the single kill was slightly clearing for Pav due to the signalling discussion.

Was going to ask how he knew that Team Fire killed A50 but I figured it out.

In post 645, Galron wrote:Was going to ask how he knew that Team Fire killed A50 but I figured it out.

I am an idiot possessed of the deep knowledge

I don't think this can have a drawback for asking publicly given how obvious a question it is, so:



NM should be able (have to actually) answer that because this is an open.

UNVOTE:

I think not thinking this through is vaguely +town for Pav, actually?

In post 647, Bingle wrote:I don't think this can have a drawback for asking publicly given how obvious a question it is, so:

@mod: Are death flavors indicative of who made the kill? If they are, what are the specific flavors for a Fire Kill, an Ice Kill, a Doc Kill, and an all three kill?

NM should be able (have to actually) answer that because this is an open.