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In post 43, SirRhett wrote:

In post 19, Nero Cain wrote:Kill it with fire!

VOTE: Nero Cain

No one threatens a kitty on my watch and lived to see the night!

In post 113, SirRhett wrote:

In post 109, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im alrdy bored can we kill someone now

It talks! Kill it!

Jokes aside, lot to catch up on. Fennec has some good reads that I’m tracking as well. I can’t discuss the ongoing game for obvious reasons, but there is definitely some misinformation being presented by your assessment of that unfortunately.

I started with a joke here because there’s not much else to do in the RVS. Feel like there is a lot of players that we haven’t heard from yet. Looking forward to hearing more.

I do agree that Cape looks a little suspect at this juncture. At least more than most. Let’s get this train on the tracks.

UNVOTE

VOTE: Cape

In post 241, SirRhett wrote:Hey guys, I'm catching up now. Sorry about the lack of posts. I was busy playing Terraforming Mars last night. It kinda sapped my mind. haha

In post 243, SirRhett wrote:Man, this is tough. Despite there being ten pages of stuff, I feel as if there's almost nothing to go off of other than people's past experience with players. If that's all the info I have to go off of, then it sounds like Meeting or Nero might be the best leads thus far? It's hard to say. Nothing in particular is ringing as truly scummy thus far.

In post 624, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 623, marcistar wrote:

In post 622, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 621, marcistar wrote:yeah but what abt it is bad?

Are you talking about Dragon's ISO?

yes

also side note can we PLEASE do something about rhett idk if they forgot abt the game but their iso is so annoying i kinda wanna vote it

What's bothering you about rhett?

Dragons is a good example of the kind of low effort scum slot trying to coast by which can get picked off D1.

Dragons ISO is a low activity slot with a couple biggish "catchup" posts that are super hedgey and refuse to state any clear stances or analysis on most players. These posts which are supposed to appear Townie are easy to write as scum, and his top 2 scum reads are obv town slots (cape and I.) I'm reading a purely survivalistic motivation from Dragon which I'm not reading from any other slot, however annoying some of them may be.

In post 625, marcistar wrote:

In post 43, SirRhett wrote:

In post 19, Nero Cain wrote:Kill it with fire!

VOTE: Nero Cain

No one threatens a kitty on my watch and lived to see the night!

In post 113, SirRhett wrote:

In post 109, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im alrdy bored can we kill someone now

It talks! Kill it!

Jokes aside, lot to catch up on. Fennec has some good reads that I’m tracking as well. I can’t discuss the ongoing game for obvious reasons, but there is definitely some misinformation being presented by your assessment of that unfortunately.

I started with a joke here because there’s not much else to do in the RVS. Feel like there is a lot of players that we haven’t heard from yet. Looking forward to hearing more.

I do agree that Cape looks a little suspect at this juncture. At least more than most. Let’s get this train on the tracks.

UNVOTE

VOTE: Cape

In post 241, SirRhett wrote:Hey guys, I'm catching up now. Sorry about the lack of posts. I was busy playing Terraforming Mars last night. It kinda sapped my mind. haha

In post 243, SirRhett wrote:Man, this is tough. Despite there being ten pages of stuff, I feel as if there's almost nothing to go off of other than people's past experience with players. If that's all the info I have to go off of, then it sounds like Meeting or Nero might be the best leads thus far? It's hard to say. Nothing in particular is ringing as truly scummy thus far.

What about his ISO is scum AI to you other than the abysmal activity level and the bad excuses for not making up reads?

What's up sirrhett? Watcha thinkin?

In post 620, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 420, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 419, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 204, Frogsterking wrote:Town:

Gamma
Kitty
Marci
Cape
Sirrhet
Charloux
Fennec

Null:
Nero

Scum:

MariaR
Greeting,
Pooky,
Dragons and
Big Chungus

???:
Toogle
Malcolm

Updated 4 Big Chungus

Greeting, Pooky, Dragons and Big Chungus are a bit dodgy but I'll need to think about where they go. I think I scraped one more Townread together but I can't remember where it came from.

4 cross reference where I probably need help the most:

In post 16, Frogsterking wrote:VOTE: pooky RVS it's a stuffed bear how can it talk

I may or may not post my survey start

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Players I can read well:

Gamma Emerald
Nero Cain
Greeting
KittyTacky
Crescent
PookyTheMagicalBear

Players I can't read well:

Toogeloo
MalcolmTucker

Players I don't know or it remains to be determined how well I can read:

Fennec
Charloux
MariaR
Cape90
SirRhett
Save The Dragons
marcistar

Greeting's alleged tilt at me for not engaging with Chungus in good faith seems even more theatrical considering I bothered to update and compile this when Chungus asked.

Gamma do you see anyone I townbinned you think should be moved down to null? Or vice versa? As of 619 I've got Maria, MT, Toogle and Enchant (Nero) in null. I think everyone else is still in their bins as quoted above.

@Enchant @Malcolm

Same question

Idk why SirRhett is in town
I’d call Nero slot town, I don’t feel awful about his posting but a big part of why I think he’s town is I disliked the push on him. Enchant might be more readable tho so this isn’t final

Also your point about Greeting going after your reads does kinda resonate w me

In post 630, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also your point about Greeting going after your reads does kinda resonate w me

Did anything Nero said about KittyTacky resonate with you, Gamma?

I don't really see anything wrong with it but it doesn't really make a dent rn

In post 597, MariaR wrote:

In post 584, Toogeloo wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: MalcolmTucker

VOTE: Malcolm Tucker

What's the case on Malcolm?

Legit I can't find it, why the hell are there a bunch of naked votes on him all of a sudden.

In post 619, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 608, Gamma Emerald wrote:what’s the case on MT here?

Nothing more than the usual Mislim Target reasoning unless I missed something.

VOTE: Dragons

This should be the D1 flip though IMO, Dragons ISO is hands down the worst in this game. I thought about this game during the shutdown and I think Dragons is likely to be a scum flip with Greeting chainsawing me over him. I'm even open to being wrong on every single one of my previous scum reads except my Dragon read really. Greeting I think is probably scum but maybe I'm wrong and they're having an off game or something, Chungus/Pooky being troll could be NAI and Maria falsely accused is a thing.

I'd rank these players in terms of dodginess, highest-to-lowest:

Dragons, Greeting, Chungus, Pooky, Maria,

For real though, Dragons needs to be one of the main wagons today, and if he flips scum then I'm probably pushing Greeting tomorrow.

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Maybe a better visual way to organize what I'm saying:

Null: Maria + a handful of others I'll have to reread

Scum lean/mild suspicion: Chungus, Pooky

Low certainty scum read: Greeting

Moderate certainty scum read: Dragons

Why do you think is scum, and more interestingly, scum with me?

I don't like the defense of too, in my opinion, he's done quite little to solve the game compared to the games I've seen him in. I have literally used the same excuse of "limbait" to try to sway town against eliminating an anti-town player when we both were scum together in Newbie 2100 (that is ). Being limbait isn't really an excuse for doing nothing, especially if it's not the player's meta to do nothing every game (which, in my personal experience, is true for and ).

In post 620, Frogsterking wrote:
Greeting's alleged tilt at me for not engaging with Chungus in good faith seems even more theatrical considering I bothered to update and compile this when Chungus asked.

Gamma do you see anyone I townbinned you think should be moved down to null? Or vice versa? As of 619 I've got Maria, MT, Toogle and Enchant (Nero) in null. I think everyone else is still in their bins as quoted above.

@Enchant @Malcolm

Same question

idk i didn't even read anything

So, who we killing and why

In post 638, Enchant wrote:So, who we killing and why

we are a little all over the place with votes right now, I think MalcolmTucker is leading by a good margin.
He only has 12 posts so not that hard to look through
MariaR is another possibility, but I have felt like they might be town recently off a hunch
Thankfully you walked in on a game that isn't super duper active, it's mostly me and frogsterking that have talked a lot, nero said quite a bit.
There are definitely a few posters like SaveTheDragons/SirRhett/Toogeloo along with Malcolm that are okay vote candidates off not providing too much.

In post 626, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 624, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 623, marcistar wrote:

In post 622, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 621, marcistar wrote:yeah but what abt it is bad?

Are you talking about Dragon's ISO?

yes

also side note can we PLEASE do something about rhett idk if they forgot abt the game but their iso is so annoying i kinda wanna vote it

What's bothering you about rhett?

Dragons is a good example of the kind of low effort scum slot trying to coast by which can get picked off D1.

Dragons ISO is a low activity slot with a couple biggish "catchup" posts that are super hedgey and refuse to state any clear stances or analysis on most players. These posts which are supposed to appear Townie are easy to write as scum, and his top 2 scum reads are obv town slots (cape and I.) I'm reading a purely survivalistic motivation from Dragon which I'm not reading from any other slot, however annoying some of them may be.

To me I find this characteristic of 3p gameplay.
Felt this way about Save The Dragons in general leading me to not really make definitive heads or tails of it, but leaning scum

in terms of SirRhett

113 felt theatrical
243 is very hedgy

I bet he forgot about this game all together

In post 636, Greeting wrote:especially if it's not the player's meta to do nothing every game (which, in my personal experience, is true for marcistar and Toogeloo).

rude

In post 619, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 608, Gamma Emerald wrote:what’s the case on MT here?

Nothing more than the usual Mislim Target reasoning unless I missed something.

VOTE: Dragons

This should be the D1 flip though IMO, Dragons ISO is hands down the worst in this game. I thought about this game during the shutdown and I think Dragons is likely to be a scum flip with Greeting chainsawing me over him. I'm even open to being wrong on every single one of my previous scum reads except my Dragon read really. Greeting I think is probably scum but maybe I'm wrong and they're having an off game or something, Chungus/Pooky being troll could be NAI and Maria falsely accused is a thing.

I'd rank these players in terms of dodginess, highest-to-lowest:

Dragons, Greeting, Chungus, Pooky, Maria,

For real though, Dragons needs to be one of the main wagons today, and if he flips scum then I'm probably pushing Greeting tomorrow.

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Maybe a better visual way to organize what I'm saying:

Null: Maria + a handful of others I'll have to reread

Scum lean/mild suspicion: Chungus, Pooky

Low certainty scum read: Greeting

Moderate certainty scum read: Dragons

your case is wishy washy, all over the place, and untrue. it feels like you decided i'm scum and are just coming up with more and more reasons to pigeonhole me into this mindset. i think you've confirmbiased yourself and need to reset and actually consider what's been put out vs. decided i'm low content and therefore must be scum.

i don't know why you think i'm dodgy, i don't think i've been dodgy at all. i've given my reads my way and have been pretty clear about them.

most of this post is blustering and not an actual case and i'm not sure what you're hoping to gain from this, it almost seems like you're being dodgy especially since someone asked you a question about me and you get distracted by someone else:

In post 624, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 623, marcistar wrote:

In post 622, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 621, marcistar wrote:yeah but what abt it is bad?

Are you talking about Dragon's ISO?

yes

also side note can we PLEASE do something about rhett idk if they forgot abt the game but their iso is so annoying i kinda wanna vote it

What's bothering you about rhett?

when you do answer you give this:

In post 626, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 624, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 623, marcistar wrote:

In post 622, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 621, marcistar wrote:yeah but what abt it is bad?

Are you talking about Dragon's ISO?

yes

also side note can we PLEASE do something about rhett idk if they forgot abt the game but their iso is so annoying i kinda wanna vote it

What's bothering you about rhett?

Dragons is a good example of the kind of low effort scum slot trying to coast by which can get picked off D1.

Dragons ISO is a low activity slot with a couple biggish "catchup" posts that are super hedgey and refuse to state any clear stances or analysis on most players. These posts which are supposed to appear Townie are easy to write as scum, and his top 2 scum reads are obv town slots (cape and I.) I'm reading a purely survivalistic motivation from Dragon which I'm not reading from any other slot, however annoying some of them may be.

Okay, I'm not low effort. I'm a little sparse because i'm busy but not low effort. It takes a lot of work to catch up from being behind 10 pages. Toog is low effort. Sir Rhett is low effort. Me, I've been here. So why me over other people who are actually exhibiting low effort?

Low activity != scum so I'm not sure why you say it

I don't think my posts are hedgy i think i give pretty clear reads based on what has happened so far. I think it's easy to tell which players i'm scumreading and which ones i'm townreading, especially because i gave a readslist. i think it's hard to produce a readslist as scum and doing so would be unnecessary. But i wanted to better articulate my thoughts for myself mostly.

You and cape are not obv town slots, and even if you were, why would scum make it hard on themselves? Why wouldn't scum push slots they thought they could push? see your argument is wrong and makes no logical sense.

how am i "surviving" the game just started? I don't understand how you can attribute that motivation from me without taking into consideration i work 8 hours a day and have trouble accessing mafia at work, esp since i'm not currently working from home any days anymore. the only way i'm "surviving" is me falling behind and catching up in a big swath of post. why would you attribute that motivation to me being scum?

In post 582, MalcolmTucker wrote:Massively behind on this one and not been able to catch up due to site outage so far.

Tomorrow a busy one but will do a full read of what I've missed on Wednesday.

it is now Wednesday

as far as malcolmtucker goes i'm not a fan but i'm willing to give him a chance to catch up today

Imagine catching up only to discover there's 3+ pages which you also need to catch up.

Therefore catching up is pointless exertise.

In post 645, Save The Dragons wrote:as far as malcolmtucker goes i'm not a fan but i'm willing to give him a chance to catch up today

Whats your read on him then?

whats your read on him

In post 638, Enchant wrote:So, who we killing and why

Dragons please, scum slot IMO