Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:54 pm
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In addition, town would still possibly be able to be recruited and win with cult; scum cannot. TDeath’s behavior here makes more sense as scum given that.In post 6249, pisskop wrote:So do it.
I dont like these 'oh man Im gonna do it if xyzed happens XOXO winkyface!!1!' posts.
Looks like Bullshit scum posturing to me.
main concern with that is that if there are two cult alive rn, (and that makes sense given pisskop's interactions with me earlier), so if we flipped one, and mafia shot the other tonight, then wouldnt that mean we lost a role with investigative abilities, and screwed town-siding indie out of their win-con for no reason?In post 6228, Lavender wrote:That's what I'm sayin, based on their claim they need three members before they can kill, however we don't know for certain if it's true or not!
So isn't the best solution to just see the Cult Leader's role card? (^o^)
Why priorize 3rd party when you're that confidant A50 is mafia?In post 6254, TiphaineDeath wrote:By which I mean I will invariably commit honorable sudoku because no one is gonna vote with me, except maybe A50, and he's probably a scumfuck xD.
This line of reasoning lines up with an indie whose win-con is reliant of getting shot. He just saying what he says to pad out the game.In post 6235, Almost50 wrote:Well, whatever. I ain't town so I don't really care if town wins or loses. Bambi being against a cult shred certainly points towards him NOT being SCUM, but there's always the chance he was the true cult recruit of last night. (His theory about a "hidden" 3rd cult member is an interesting take). Also TD's suggestion that Gamma's claim was "in reverse" and that Gamma is the true CL also makes sense, and especially so since Gamma himself admitted he sent NPOM to kill Grendel.
Now in light if that I may have 2 "dim" additional points that may support TD's theory: a) Gamma has a history with PL in the field of cult stuff, and it makes more sense that Gamma would claim as the leader not as a follower (which is what he did before; claiming as a recruit), and b) PK trying to shred Grendel after they had failed to kill him makes more sense than them trying to recruit him after the failed kill.
I thus now think PK did recruit Bambi andthe cult are going for the solitary win
Now let me tell you a theory of my own (thatdoessupport TD's theory, and "maybe" Bambi as a last night recruit): As a novice mod, if I wanted to include Cult in my setup, I'd either limit their recruitment to X shots or give them a maximum membership cap. The third option is to make them play against everyone else (i.e. I probably won't even have a "Mafia" team, but this option is already proven false in this game).
But seriously, I don't care what Town does at this point. I have resigned to having registered my 2nd loss as 3P in 2020, so if you want to end the game today with a Cult exclusive win you go for it.
Laziness and other things being more interesting, on my part.In post 6258, Grendel wrote:@Gamma & Pisskop
What happened to doing VCA?
I was looking forward hearing your thoughts.
A) What makes you think pisskop can't recruit even if he was eliminated? Didn't he claim he can do that?In post 6255, Grendel wrote:main concern with that is that if there are two cult alive rn, (and that makes sense given pisskop's interactions with me earlier), so if we flipped one, and mafia shot the other tonight, then wouldnt that mean we lost a role with investigative abilities, and screwed town-siding indie out of their win-con for no reason?In post 6228, Lavender wrote:That's what I'm sayin, based on their claim they need three members before they can kill, however we don't know for certain if it's true or not!
So isn't the best solution to just see the Cult Leader's role card? (^o^)
I don't mind that
RE-A) Well, the after-death recruit seemed like a bluff to me b/c it sounds unprecedented? I dont think it cant be true but im skeptical. The other things he said about his cult I think i've heard of similarities elsewhere. Those are things that i have a concrete idea how they can be balanced and play out.In post 6265, Almost50 wrote:A) What makes you think pisskop can't recruit even if he was eliminated? Didn't he claim he can do that?In post 6255, Grendel wrote:main concern with that is that if there are two cult alive rn, (and that makes sense given pisskop's interactions with me earlier), so if we flipped one, and mafia shot the other tonight, then wouldnt that mean we lost a role with investigative abilities, and screwed town-siding indie out of their win-con for no reason?In post 6228, Lavender wrote:That's what I'm sayin, based on their claim they need three members before they can kill, however we don't know for certain if it's true or not!
So isn't the best solution to just see the Cult Leader's role card? (^o^)
B) If you do think pisskop was lying about this detail, why are you trusting the rest of his claim?
I was also going to respond to the "investigative role" bit, but it'd become messy WIFOM. Like, from YOUR PoV (according to your claim) you are practically guaranteed not to be NK'd or culted tonight. Iirc you firmly believe Lav is Town. You have 2 claimed Cult members, so it's between me, TD & Bambi.
Even more, since there was a kill last night I'm guessing Bambi has yet to use "Delay", which sounds like the Scum NK/Cult recruitment will be resolved a night later anyway. So, you basically can verify the Cult AND go for the Mafia elimination before Scum can kill or Cult can recruit.
But I will acknowledge this could become messy because pisskop was trying to sell you as Scum, and I'm not sure who bought the possibility and who didn't. (I know I didn't, but that's about it)
If bambi is his 3rd cult then that situation of him pushing a failed recruit on me makes no sense from a day play perspective.In post 6264, TiphaineDeath wrote:@Grendel: two reasons behind the vote 1. They dared me to and that pissed me off. 2. We don't know that when they win town wins with them, and there may well be three of them right now if bambi is the third, so any lynch outside cult may end the game in favor of cult and not with town.
@Grendel: I am not sure A50 is scum. I am not sure of anything in this game anymore. I think I've made that pretty clear.
@Grendel: When I'm scum I am WAAAAY more tunnely than this, and probably a smidge less paranoid. It's self-meta, but hey, you asked for it xD.
that is a possiblity i havent thought about.In post 6268, Bambi Jay wrote:Yeah Delay is my last one. But I think it might be the opposite of Tuner which started the day early. It might give us 2 night phases instead.
I keep coming back to this line of thought by Tipain when Rude and i were 1v1ing.In post 5614, TiphaineDeath wrote:Yeah, same thing I said to rude applies to grendel, if you are 3P in all this you really do need to hardclaim it now, because it looks like we are after rude first, but if rude flips green then you're gonna die mate. Like, if he is an idiot and doesn't claim and flips gray then MAYBE you get to live, but if you're gray you gotta tell us.
Honestly at this point if rude flips red I am like 75% tempted to call this a gambit and powerlynch grendel ANYWAY.