KTaNE [game over!]

[Bell]

Oh, I didn’t realize dwlee was voting you.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Bell is just openwolfing atp

[Bell]

It would have been terrible if you got hammered early before you finished.
So i’mma let you.

[Enchant]

Let's do like all senseble people and just sheep conftown decision.

[Bell]

Sounds sensible to me. I love handing off responsibility to someone else.

[Dwlee99]

you start at 5P:

you eliminate one person who is town

you go to night at 4P

scum nightkill someone, give someone else shitty bomb directions -> 2P game over

If scum are in defusers or have a switch left, yes

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why would scum not save a switch for elo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

seems kind of important to do

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if the switching power is gated - it's probably limited shot usage, seems like common sense to save one shot for elo so scum can always join the expert team and blow up a town defuser at will.

if the switching power is ungated(imo too strong and unlikely to be the case) then scum have stopped using it in hopes that we forget about it.[long shot but I'm not sure when they would even want to use it]

[Bell]

It worked because I forgot about it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

UNVOTE: Bell

I'm having trouble sleeping so I just have to get this off my chest.

What are you all doing this game?

It feels like nobody wants to actually play or put in the time to solve this game.

I don't even know what I am doing here anymore.

We have 2 eliminations left to find one scum. It seems more or less decided that the first elimination will be used on me.

and then what?

What happens tommorrow?

Guiltylion will get shot in the face at night.

You will wake up with 5 alive and scum will be one elimination away from winning this game. [5 -> 4 (scum shoot one and blow one up) -> 2 alive parity)

5 alive with one scum is 20% odds for town and scum can quickhammer any town slot that gets to two votes.

What are you going to do at that point?

Turn your brains off and vote out Enchant and just hope he's scum?

This is page 251. We are all exhausted of this game but that doesn't mean we stop trying because if we do then what was the point of all this?

The first couple of scum have been easy and the last one is not. That's not a reason to stop trying to play the game and decide oh let's just kill Pooky/Enchant cuz ???.

Maybe you all think I'm wrong about Bell.

Talk to me - tell me where I'm wrong. Tell me I'm wrong about how the math works out. Tell me why you townread him. Tell me what you're actually thinking about this game.

I'm not going to be alive for much longer but while I'm alive I'd like to actually figure out who to eliminate after me because I still want to win.

I don't want everything we did to come to nothing just because everybody stopped caring for some reason right at the end.

Like it's hard for me to actually care sometimes but I still do and if this is how it ends then so be it but I'd like for us to actually try to win instead of deciding this game isn't worth playing.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

actually it is optimal to explode whoever is the defuser tonight because 5p and 4p are both elo tomm so there is no difference.

Playing elo with 4p is better than playing elo with 5p because there's one less slot to actually account for.

[Datisi]

vote count 8.02

• with
  7
  votes in play, it takes
  4
  to make a decision.
  
• day 8 ends in
  (expired on 2022-05-14 20:45:00)
  .
  
• 2
  players who have the most nominations will be bomb experts on n8.

execution:

PookyTheMagicalBear [2]:

Dwlee99, Bell

Enchant [1]:

Andante

not voting [4]:

GuiltyLion, Cat Scratch Fever, Enchant, PookyTheMagicalBear

bomb expert nominations:

GuiltyLion [1]:

Dwlee99

Dwlee99 [1]:

Enchant

Cat Scratch Fever [1]:

Enchant

not nominating [5]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, Andante, GuiltyLion, Cat Scratch Fever, Bell

eligible to be nominated:

PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion, Dwlee99, Cat Scratch Fever

ineligible to be nominated:

Bell, Andante, Enchant

mod notes:

• Cat Scratch Fever is v/la until sunday.
  
• the vote counter is acting weird and i'm counting votes by hand, let me know if i make any mistakes.

[Dwlee99]

Pooky I feel like I straight up have no actual leads besides you.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i just had a dream where catboi came back from the dead and called me an idiot for suspecting Bell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky I feel like I straight up have no actual leads besides you.

the problem with being a POE player is that when you misread one scumbag you just lose the game and in a large theme you're always going to misread at least one scumbag

[Dwlee99]

How does that not also just apply to any playstyle. If you townread scum you lose

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

because when you play by POE you push mislims for the scum who is in your townreads since you're operating on autopilot p much.

when you are actively hunting, the scum in your townreads also has to actively hunt to maintain appearances so there is a chance they slip up and fall out of your townreads.

[Dwlee99]

Okay fine I'm convinced

[Dwlee99]

Pooky making me "play the game" and "scum hunt" absolutely unbelievable

[Dwlee99]

I'm not sure what to do with the idea though that anyone can be scum. Like I think if I really wanted to I could scum case anyone here except GL

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like rn it feels like collective POE is just me/enchant

so if the collective POE is wrong - then we lose.

the scum literally doesn't have to do much work because they can just say "i agree with POE" and win via POE.

if entire town is lazy - scum can also be lazy.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky making me "play the game" and "scum hunt" absolutely unbelievable

I mean what am i supposed to do

just accept being limmed and betting the game that Enchant is scum?

i dun like those odds ngl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not sure what to do with the idea though that anyone can be scum. Like I think if I really wanted to I could scum case anyone here except GL

like this is the 4th quarter of the game

we have like 250 pages of game we can reread for clues etc.

let's make the effort and talk it out. If you think I'm wrong about Bell make the case for it and let's talk it out.

End of the day if you still think its me at least we made the effort instead of lazy dialed it in.

I don't feel any shame about losing games where I try but feels kinda shit to lose cuz we didnt bother playing.

[Dwlee99]

Deepwolf would be CSF who helped us lim every scum and has had consistently good takes after initially pushing me day one. I don't believe she is scum

Andante I am trusting you on because either you're scum and she is town or you're town and I am betting on you being able to read her better than me

Enchant is an enigma but there are things that point to him being town this game imo. But I'm not sold.

There's Bell who again no idea how to read this player but I've been told he is supposed to be obvtown.

And there's you who yea