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Post Post #6275 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:57 am

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In post 6274, NanceFloor wrote:eh TL you could be town

I just need you to be honest with how your reads are progressing

don't try to make it seem more natural than it is
See for why I originally scumlocked you. See for why I thought Dann could be town.

After that I just skim milked your ISO for the "getting townier" part.

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Post Post #6276 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:58 am

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okay thank you TL

talk to me on why Titus is scum?
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Post Post #6277 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:24 pm

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nanceeeee why is chemist town
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Post Post #6278 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:38 pm

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1 day more

Another day another destiny
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Post Post #6279 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:49 pm

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In post 6271, NanceFloor wrote:I will always take Creature over Chemist as scum in that pair. Chemist is town.

the strategy for scum!creature is to:

divert the protect onto Titus > try to flip Chemist > push to lynch RC as a deep wolf or otherwise somehow get rid of him after Chemist flips town > nightkill Nancefloor > scum victory

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Plot hole. That strategy doesn't work with a town Titus.

Right now, Creature has acknowledged he and Chemist need to die. Once Creature or Chemist flips scum, then we turn to lynching in my group as it is the only place with confirmed scum (and why I wanted to confirm scum in my coalition).
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Post Post #6280 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:54 pm

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Can everyone actually shut the fuck up about reads until scum have chosen a target for the arena that comes after this
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Post Post #6281 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:57 pm

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Vote me and shush
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Post Post #6282 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:00 pm

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VOTE: RC
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Post Post #6283 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:01 pm

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Why did you vote me you complete weapon
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Post Post #6284 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:07 pm

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shh im shushing
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Post Post #6285 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:08 pm

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VOTE: NanceFloor

Skygazer you aren't being towny.

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Post Post #6286 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:08 pm

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im town
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Post Post #6287 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:10 pm

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In post 6286, Skygazer wrote:im town
your vote says otherwise.

Why do you think protecting RC is not a net loss for town?

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Post Post #6288 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:12 pm

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Ok

Let's kill TD when this is over
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Post Post #6289 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:15 pm

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In post 6277, Skygazer wrote:nanceeeee why is chemist town
I don’t know if he is but compared with Creature, he has been as laid back and anti-agenday about everything. Creature “worrying” so much about Chemist flipping town, pings me as a bit as TMI, where as Chemist doesn’t seem to be hedging his bets like that.

And now, he totally flips out about us voting protect and once again, he’s looking at whomever in the coalition he can position as the scum.

Having Moon as his #1 tr is also dafuq?

While I don’t necessarily agree with TD’s analysis, he doesn’t seem to be particularly self-pres.

I have played more games with Creature than I can count - as any alignment - and I can’t think of a single game, where he has been even remotely this survivalistic and self-pres.

I also can tell you that if Creature flips scum, Moon is very likely his partner because scum!Creature is anything but extremely loyal to his buddies or there’s also the possibility that he actually knows Moon’s alignment but less likely imo. I find it really suspicious that Moon is anyone’s #1 tr but obviously Moon’s.

This is why I hard townread both RC and Sky. Neither one of them has set up who could be scum if Creature/Chemist both flip town, not even Chemist fwiw. The thing that is so suspicious about this behaviour, is that Creature did this even before we hammered down who would be in veto.

I would think town!Creature would first wait for Chemist’s flip before worrying about who else could be scum on the first failed coalition.

I’m not thinking about that, because I honestly don’t believe that RC/Sky could be ever be scum here. In the extremely unlikely scenario that both of Creature/Chemist flip town, I will reacess then.

But Creature’s over the top reaction to the protect, is extremely unlikely to ever come from town. If Creature is actually town here, he should feel bad for acting this scummy.
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Post Post #6290 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:23 pm

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Ur not helping my posting thoughts right now
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Post Post #6291 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:28 pm

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In post 6279, Titus wrote:
In post 6271, NanceFloor wrote:I will always take Creature over Chemist as scum in that pair. Chemist is town.

the strategy for scum!creature is to:

divert the protect onto Titus > try to flip Chemist > push to lynch RC as a deep wolf or otherwise somehow get rid of him after Chemist flips town > nightkill Nancefloor > scum victory

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Plot hole. That strategy doesn't work with a town Titus.

Right now, Creature has acknowledged he and Chemist need to die. Once Creature or Chemist flips scum, then we turn to lynching in my group as it is the only place with confirmed scum (and why I wanted to confirm scum in my coalition).
That and if Creature wants to drive the protect on anyone, it would probably be himself or Moon, is what I’m guessing but I think it’s pretty clear he he wants scum to be able to kill RC. Creature has been setting up everyone in the first failed coalition as scum save PB before the veto. So, it reads to me, that if/when Chemist flips town, he can then shift the blame for 1st coalition failing on RC, me or Sky and I don’t view that as a townie mindset.

Because there is an NK after Arena and guardamnteed, scum will target RC or us, maybe Sky or Succinct but RC and us are the biggest threats to scum in this game, so no protect is inherently anttown, imo.
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Post Post #6292 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:29 pm

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I said my thoughts on arena and protected RC. I'll prod dodge for now.

RC, if we can, let's keep the body count low to ensure autowin after finding scum from each coalition.
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Post Post #6293 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:29 pm

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In post 6291, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6279, Titus wrote:
In post 6271, NanceFloor wrote:I will always take Creature over Chemist as scum in that pair. Chemist is town.

the strategy for scum!creature is to:

divert the protect onto Titus > try to flip Chemist > push to lynch RC as a deep wolf or otherwise somehow get rid of him after Chemist flips town > nightkill Nancefloor > scum victory

- d
Plot hole. That strategy doesn't work with a town Titus.

Right now, Creature has acknowledged he and Chemist need to die. Once Creature or Chemist flips scum, then we turn to lynching in my group as it is the only place with confirmed scum (and why I wanted to confirm scum in my coalition).
That and if Creature wants to drive the protect on anyone, it would probably be himself or Moon, is what I’m guessing but I think it’s pretty clear he he wants scum to be able to kill RC. Creature has been setting up everyone in the first failed coalition as scum save PB before the veto. So, it reads to me, that if/when Chemist flips town, he can then shift the blame for 1st coalition failing on RC, me or Sky and I don’t view that as a townie mindset.

Because there is an NK after Arena and guardamnteed, scum will target RC or us, maybe Sky or Succinct but RC and us are the biggest threats to scum in this game, so no protect is inherently anttown, imo.
I put my money on scum killing me, since I have an autowin plan.
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Post Post #6294 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:31 pm

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In post 6279, Titus wrote:Plot hole. That strategy doesn't work with a town Titus.
I'm sorry I don't think highly of your play based off only this game
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Post Post #6295 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:31 pm

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In post 6294, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6279, Titus wrote:Plot hole. That strategy doesn't work with a town Titus.
I'm sorry I don't think highly of your play based off only this game
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Post Post #6296 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:33 pm

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VOTE: RC
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Post Post #6297 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:34 pm

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In post 6295, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6294, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6279, Titus wrote:Plot hole. That strategy doesn't work with a town Titus.
I'm sorry I don't think highly of your play based off only this game
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Dann, I am afraid you and Nancy don't think using inductive and deductive logic simultaneously. I am rather brutal in that I think more with stone cold logic as town unless something feels off.
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Post Post #6298 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:35 pm

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In post 6290, RadiantCowbells wrote:Ur not helping my posting thoughts right now
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Why not?

I’m onboard with protecting you.

Dan is undecided on TD. He thinks he could be scum and I’m definitely not saying he can’t be. Just to be clear, I’m not tr/tl anyone in the following: Creature/Chemist, Moon, TD, Chenn, Overki11. I think all three scum is probably in this group.

I have a bit of a tl on Titus and hard townread everyone else.
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Post Post #6299 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:37 pm

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In post 6297, Titus wrote:Dann, I am afraid you and Nancy don't think using inductive and deductive logic simultaneously. I am rather brutal in that I think more with stone cold logic as town unless something feels off.
And I'm afraid your logic isn't as air tight as you think it is. But it's really no use discussing this now, what's done is done.

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