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i just don't think u would be someone who would be interested in my opinions here regardless of me being IC.
i find this "lets refine reads together" strange.

maybe i don't know u well but this just seems off.

uve read my posts and have not engaged with me all game.
i made it pretty clear i haven't been invested.

this feels like ur trying to pocket me more than collaborate.

do you think this assessment is unfair/wrong?

I'm probably wrong about some of my townreads, so I need to figure that out, too.

Well, I understand your paranoia. But actually, I'm just trying to get a better grasp on the game, and I do a lot better when I can talk through my thinking with someone I trust.

well if you want to talk, want to go through ur townreads on porkens and lady angel? I don't tr either.

Pork's strong town because I just played with him as scum and this is NOT his scum game. Not even close. As scum, he's blatantly pro-scum. He doesn't bus. He defends his partners blatantly and pushes lynches on town blatantly. He doesn't seem to care enough about the game as either alignment to actually try hiding his alignment as scum. He's also sort of trollish enough that he can actually get away with this as scum. But trust me, Pork is town. And anyone else who was in that recent scum game of Pork's (Gamma, NSG, Creature) can speak to this as well. If any of those three aren't townreading Pork (something to check), then I'd say there's a problem with one of those three before I ever suspect Pork here.

As for Lady Angel, I think her play around Mastina and analysis of the wagon afterwards feels very townie. I didn't like her play earlier in the game, but there's actually a lot of depth to her thought process that I don't think is easy for scum to fake. I don't know her that well, but my impression is that she wouldn't be strong enough to fake this level of thought as scum. I could be wrong on her, though. My weakest townread by far.

What are your reads on the other players?

In post 5721, Creature wrote:VOTE: Porkens

Why would you do this?

In post 6305, Shoshin wrote:What are your reads on the other players?

i pretty much agree with all ur other townreads.

kind of think ari is scum here also. he keeps doing his cheerful happy face but i think he is just trying his best to keep it what he thinks is natural which makes it look awkward.

I also think the majority of scum bussed Mastina, since they needed her out of the game to have any fighting chance at winning this. Most the players who weren't voting Mastina are likely town.

In post 6003, RadiantCowbells wrote:A lynch has been achieved!

A Story Revisited

Votecount 4.241:

Mastina (9): Creature, Nicorobin, Gamma Emerald, Firebringer, Aristophanes, Whemestar, Shiro, Sora, Porkens
Firebringer (0):

No lynch (2): Lady Angel, Jingle

Not Voting: Northsidegal, Mastina, Adelbert Steiner, Invisibility, jjh927, Nero Cain, Vecna, Shoshin

With 18 alive it's 10 to lynch

The day will end in (expired on 2018-11-26 19:00:00)

Looking at this, I'd say maybe one of NSG, Invis, JJH, Nero, Vecna, Jingle, and Lady Angel is scum, with distant possibility that there's two scum in this group.

Most of the scum is in the group of Creature, Nico, Gamma, Aristophanes, Wheme, Shiro, or Sora.

Pork, again, is town.

I'm a bit confused. Who is Shiro & Sora?

We are, again

(for the second time this dayphase, even)

-RH

If I had to call the scum right now, I'd guess between Nico, Invis, Wheme, Aristophanes, and Creature, with a distant possibility of Meme, Jingle, Nero, or Lady Angel if the scumreads flip town.

But it also depends on how many scum the game has? Despite people seeming to dislike my question, I think knowing how many scum there are is very relevant to sorting associations between all these players. I think we can narrow it down further if we work with a specific number, as that really influences how I read things.

Meme, what are your reads at the moment?

In post 6277, THE MEME MEN wrote:

We have a parity cop guilty, Fire! That's right! Just what this game needed! Even more gladiation!

Really though one out of Nico and NSG is scum so which is it?

-rh

I’m with whoever it was that wanted your results
I also noted the graduation situation in my head, idk what you calling it out means rn

Shoshin is good at mafia

In post 6299, Shoshin wrote:I know you're town, Fire. And so I'd like to start a conversation with you in hopes of working together to refine reads.

At the moment, I've got you, Adelbert, Pork, Creature, NSG, Gamma, Jjh, Vecna, Meme, and Lady Angel as town. The rest are null, leaning towards scum.

I'm also hoping that whoever stopped the nightkill can confirm townies outside my townreads, making the rest of the scum very obvious. And I think whoever stopped the nightkill should claim today to help with poe and also to make my targeting as a bodyguard easier.

i agree with pretty much all of these townreads

Nico today, if green flip, NSG tomorrow, if red flip, Ari tomorrow?

-RH

In post 6261, THE MEME MEN wrote:Our ability only became available after someone fixed our pinball machine

this was only 16 posts before a post you just quoted Sho

-rh

I'd lynch Meme before I lynched NSG.

same

In post 6315, Porkens wrote:Shoshin is good at mafia

are you ever going to post something resembling a thought on a player that isn't a blanket statement?

if you missed it shoshin, there's allegedly a parity cop between me and nico

In post 6321, Firebringer wrote:

In post 6315, Porkens wrote:Shoshin is good at mafia

are you ever going to post something resembling a thought on a player that isn't a blanket statement?

Only if I really have to.

Yeah, I saw the parity cop. Nico's scummy, as a general matter, but I don't see any reason to trust Meme's results even if Meme's town.