Gameshow Mafia (Reroll): Game Over

[Titus]

TD's posting seems to try and get RC and I to fight.

@Dann- We can discuss that later but ok.

[NanceFloor]

Plot hole. That strategy doesn't work with a town Titus.

I'm sorry I don't think highly of your play based off only this game

- Dann

Agree but she’s probably still town. She just sounds so earnest and sincere, even if albeit wrong for most of the game thus far.

~N

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: RC

+1

[NanceFloor]

Plot hole. That strategy doesn't work with a town Titus.

I'm sorry I don't think highly of your play based off only this game

- Dann

Dann, I am afraid you and Nancy don't think using inductive and deductive logic simultaneously. I am rather brutal in that I think more with stone cold logic as town unless something feels off.

Sorry but

How did you use “logic” to determine we needed to waste a coalition that was 99.99999% doomed to fail? And I still don’t agree that PB ever needed to be in veto or anymore than 3 in failed coalition needed to be. We’ll just have to keep agreeing to disagree on that, I guess.

[NanceFloor]

TD's posting seems to try and get RC and I to fight.

@Dann- We can discuss that later but ok.

Yeah, could be. I will say this, if Creature is actually town here, I’m going to

figuratively

smack him so hard post-game.

[Creature]

where he has been even remotely this survivalistic and self-pres.

You have seen nothing then.

[NanceFloor]

where he has been even remotely this survivalistic and self-pres.

You have seen nothing then.

Link?

[Creature]

The thing that is so suspicious about this behaviour, is that Creature did this even before we hammered down who would be in veto.

Oh, was it because our dance pair seemed obviously a mislynch set?

[Creature]

I would think town!Creature would first wait for Chemist’s flip

Hmm, aren't you all planning to flip me along Chemist? Guess I gotta do something then.

[Creature]

But Creature’s over the top reaction to the protect, is extremely unlikely to ever come from town. If Creature is actually town here, he should feel bad for acting this scummy.

-_-

Thought I was pretty clear I wanted flips so we can get more info about the game.

[Creature]

Also I had resigned to the protect. Though, I would have preferred arena first.

[NanceFloor]

The thing that is so suspicious about this behaviour, is that Creature did this even before we hammered down who would be in veto.

Oh, was it because our dance pair seemed obviously a mislynch set?

I know I’m town and I hard townread RC and Sky and if a really experienced scum player made those pairings, then how do we know it wasn’t scum WIFOM?

Why was RC paired with Overkill11? And both Taly/Sky’s ISOs are bleeding town. But why were you at first so adamantly opposed to obvtown in failed coalition being in veto and then say you were okay with me and Sky being in it?

I would have never put you into my veto, had you not done that.

[Titus]

I would think town!Creature would first wait for Chemist’s flip

Hmm, aren't you all planning to flip me along Chemist? Guess I gotta do something then.

This is my recommendation, as it tests NF's reads partially.

[RadiantCowbells]

Btw

At the time of the chemist creature pairings the vast majority of people townread Creature and a significant number townread Chemist

[NanceFloor]

I would think town!Creature would first wait for Chemist’s flip

Hmm, aren't you all planning to flip me along Chemist? Guess I gotta do something then.

Scum makes those decisions, both who is the gladiator and the gladiated. We only get to choose between them.

[Creature]

where he has been even remotely this survivalistic and self-pres.

You have seen nothing then.

Link?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=78440
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=78192

Quite hard to find games I've been actually pushed as town in this year, but the point is that I'm pretty survivalistic as town. And why should I not be somewhat survivalistic?

[Titus]

I would think town!Creature would first wait for Chemist’s flip

Hmm, aren't you all planning to flip me along Chemist? Guess I gotta do something then.

Scum makes those decisions, both who is the gladiator and the gladiated. We only get to choose between them.

No gladiator chooses gladiated.

[Creature]

But why were you at first so adamantly opposed to obvtown in failed coalition being in veto and then say you were okay with me and Sky being in it?

I don't think I seriously considered adding you to it because I found it suboptimal to give scum free potential obvtown kills, but I was forced to give a guess on who could be scum in the failed coalition.

[NanceFloor]

But Creature’s over the top reaction to the protect, is extremely unlikely to ever come from town. If Creature is actually town here, he should feel bad for acting this scummy.

-_-

Thought I was pretty clear I wanted flips so we can get more info about the game.

But if you’re town, you would assume that RC/Me if not Sky/Succinct are the most likely to be NK’d and the way I see it, protect forces scum to forfeit one NK to be able to target the designated protected, so I think if they really wanted to target RC, they’d forfeit the NK, after we do arena. IOW, make a failed attempt or if not, kill amongst me/Sky/Succinct.

[NanceFloor]

I would think town!Creature would first wait for Chemist’s flip

Hmm, aren't you all planning to flip me along Chemist? Guess I gotta do something then.

Scum makes those decisions, both who is the gladiator and the gladiated. We only get to choose between them.

No gladiator chooses gladiated.

If gladiated is town, you mean.

[Creature]

But if you’re town, you would assume that RC/Me if not Sky/Succinct are the most likely to be NK’d and the way I see it

Yeh, I somewhat ignored the NK part, but what can I do when my vengeful idea is turned down?

[Titus]

I would think town!Creature would first wait for Chemist’s flip

Hmm, aren't you all planning to flip me along Chemist? Guess I gotta do something then.

Scum makes those decisions, both who is the gladiator and the gladiated. We only get to choose between them.

No gladiator chooses gladiated.

If gladiated is town, you mean.

Correct.

With the universal consensus the C/C need to be in arena, the scum are better off putting in a town that would refuse to comply and eat rope.

[NanceFloor]

But why were you at first so adamantly opposed to obvtown in failed coalition being in veto and then say you were okay with me and Sky being in it?

I don't think I seriously considered adding you to it because I found it suboptimal to give scum free potential obvtown kills, but I was forced to give a guess on who could be scum in the failed coalition.

When were you forced? You said if there has to be 4, you’d put me and Sky? Why even say that at all? PB/RC/Sky/Clemency/Chemist and of course me, never did that. All I said was that we should exclude you and PB from second coalition. Prior to you saying that, I was adamantly opposed to having you in veto.

[Skygazer]

just saying: if scum arena me i will gladiate NF and RC

[Creature]

I don't see RC being scum anymore. I'm pretty sure Ank and I are town. So if we're going all coalition on veto, it's gonna be Chem + Clem + NF + Sky.

It wasn't really a serious consideration, it was just my personal coalition PoE.