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Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:37 pm
by Titus
TD's posting seems to try and get RC and I to fight.

@Dann- We can discuss that later but ok.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:38 pm
by NanceFloor
In post 6295, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6294, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6279, Titus wrote:Plot hole. That strategy doesn't work with a town Titus.
I'm sorry I don't think highly of your play based off only this game
- Dann
Agree but she’s probably still town. She just sounds so earnest and sincere, even if albeit wrong for most of the game thus far.

~N

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:38 pm
by NanceFloor
In post 6296, NanceFloor wrote:VOTE: RC
+1

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:41 pm
by NanceFloor
In post 6297, Titus wrote:
In post 6295, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6294, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6279, Titus wrote:Plot hole. That strategy doesn't work with a town Titus.
I'm sorry I don't think highly of your play based off only this game
- Dann
Dann, I am afraid you and Nancy don't think using inductive and deductive logic simultaneously. I am rather brutal in that I think more with stone cold logic as town unless something feels off.
Sorry but :lol:

How did you use “logic” to determine we needed to waste a coalition that was 99.99999% doomed to fail? And I still don’t agree that PB ever needed to be in veto or anymore than 3 in failed coalition needed to be. We’ll just have to keep agreeing to disagree on that, I guess.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:46 pm
by NanceFloor
In post 6300, Titus wrote:TD's posting seems to try and get RC and I to fight.

@Dann- We can discuss that later but ok.
Yeah, could be. I will say this, if Creature is actually town here, I’m going to
figuratively
smack him so hard post-game.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:48 pm
by Creature
In post 6289, NanceFloor wrote:where he has been even remotely this survivalistic and self-pres.
You have seen nothing then.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:48 pm
by NanceFloor
In post 6305, Creature wrote:
In post 6289, NanceFloor wrote:where he has been even remotely this survivalistic and self-pres.
You have seen nothing then.
Link?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:49 pm
by Creature
In post 6289, NanceFloor wrote:The thing that is so suspicious about this behaviour, is that Creature did this even before we hammered down who would be in veto.
Oh, was it because our dance pair seemed obviously a mislynch set?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:50 pm
by Creature
In post 6289, NanceFloor wrote:I would think town!Creature would first wait for Chemist’s flip
Hmm, aren't you all planning to flip me along Chemist? Guess I gotta do something then.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:51 pm
by Creature
In post 6289, NanceFloor wrote:But Creature’s over the top reaction to the protect, is extremely unlikely to ever come from town. If Creature is actually town here, he should feel bad for acting this scummy.
-_-

Thought I was pretty clear I wanted flips so we can get more info about the game.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:52 pm
by Creature
Also I had resigned to the protect. Though, I would have preferred arena first.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:56 pm
by NanceFloor
In post 6307, Creature wrote:
In post 6289, NanceFloor wrote:The thing that is so suspicious about this behaviour, is that Creature did this even before we hammered down who would be in veto.
Oh, was it because our dance pair seemed obviously a mislynch set?
I know I’m town and I hard townread RC and Sky and if a really experienced scum player made those pairings, then how do we know it wasn’t scum WIFOM?

Why was RC paired with Overkill11? And both Taly/Sky’s ISOs are bleeding town. But why were you at first so adamantly opposed to obvtown in failed coalition being in veto and then say you were okay with me and Sky being in it?

I would have never put you into my veto, had you not done that.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:58 pm
by Titus
In post 6308, Creature wrote:
In post 6289, NanceFloor wrote:I would think town!Creature would first wait for Chemist’s flip
Hmm, aren't you all planning to flip me along Chemist? Guess I gotta do something then.
This is my recommendation, as it tests NF's reads partially.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:59 pm
by RadiantCowbells
Btw

At the time of the chemist creature pairings the vast majority of people townread Creature and a significant number townread Chemist

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:59 pm
by NanceFloor
In post 6308, Creature wrote:
In post 6289, NanceFloor wrote:I would think town!Creature would first wait for Chemist’s flip
Hmm, aren't you all planning to flip me along Chemist? Guess I gotta do something then.
Scum makes those decisions, both who is the gladiator and the gladiated. We only get to choose between them.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:00 pm
by Creature
In post 6306, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6305, Creature wrote:
In post 6289, NanceFloor wrote:where he has been even remotely this survivalistic and self-pres.
You have seen nothing then.
Link?
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=78440
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=78192

Quite hard to find games I've been actually pushed as town in this year, but the point is that I'm pretty survivalistic as town. And why should I not be somewhat survivalistic?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:01 pm
by Titus
In post 6314, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6308, Creature wrote:
In post 6289, NanceFloor wrote:I would think town!Creature would first wait for Chemist’s flip
Hmm, aren't you all planning to flip me along Chemist? Guess I gotta do something then.
Scum makes those decisions, both who is the gladiator and the gladiated. We only get to choose between them.
No gladiator chooses gladiated.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:02 pm
by Creature
In post 6311, NanceFloor wrote:But why were you at first so adamantly opposed to obvtown in failed coalition being in veto and then say you were okay with me and Sky being in it?
I don't think I seriously considered adding you to it because I found it suboptimal to give scum free potential obvtown kills, but I was forced to give a guess on who could be scum in the failed coalition.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:04 pm
by NanceFloor
In post 6309, Creature wrote:
In post 6289, NanceFloor wrote:But Creature’s over the top reaction to the protect, is extremely unlikely to ever come from town. If Creature is actually town here, he should feel bad for acting this scummy.
-_-

Thought I was pretty clear I wanted flips so we can get more info about the game.
But if you’re town, you would assume that RC/Me if not Sky/Succinct are the most likely to be NK’d and the way I see it, protect forces scum to forfeit one NK to be able to target the designated protected, so I think if they really wanted to target RC, they’d forfeit the NK, after we do arena. IOW, make a failed attempt or if not, kill amongst me/Sky/Succinct.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:05 pm
by NanceFloor
In post 6316, Titus wrote:
In post 6314, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6308, Creature wrote:
In post 6289, NanceFloor wrote:I would think town!Creature would first wait for Chemist’s flip
Hmm, aren't you all planning to flip me along Chemist? Guess I gotta do something then.
Scum makes those decisions, both who is the gladiator and the gladiated. We only get to choose between them.
No gladiator chooses gladiated.
If gladiated is town, you mean.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:10 pm
by Creature
In post 6318, NanceFloor wrote:But if you’re town, you would assume that RC/Me if not Sky/Succinct are the most likely to be NK’d and the way I see it
Yeh, I somewhat ignored the NK part, but what can I do when my vengeful idea is turned down?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:10 pm
by Titus
In post 6319, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6316, Titus wrote:
In post 6314, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 6308, Creature wrote:
In post 6289, NanceFloor wrote:I would think town!Creature would first wait for Chemist’s flip
Hmm, aren't you all planning to flip me along Chemist? Guess I gotta do something then.
Scum makes those decisions, both who is the gladiator and the gladiated. We only get to choose between them.
No gladiator chooses gladiated.
If gladiated is town, you mean.
Correct.

With the universal consensus the C/C need to be in arena, the scum are better off putting in a town that would refuse to comply and eat rope.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:10 pm
by NanceFloor
In post 6317, Creature wrote:
In post 6311, NanceFloor wrote:But why were you at first so adamantly opposed to obvtown in failed coalition being in veto and then say you were okay with me and Sky being in it?
I don't think I seriously considered adding you to it because I found it suboptimal to give scum free potential obvtown kills, but I was forced to give a guess on who could be scum in the failed coalition.
When were you forced? You said if there has to be 4, you’d put me and Sky? Why even say that at all? PB/RC/Sky/Clemency/Chemist and of course me, never did that. All I said was that we should exclude you and PB from second coalition. Prior to you saying that, I was adamantly opposed to having you in veto.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:12 pm
by Skygazer
just saying: if scum arena me i will gladiate NF and RC

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:13 pm
by Creature
In post 5060, Creature wrote:I don't see RC being scum anymore. I'm pretty sure Ank and I are town. So if we're going all coalition on veto, it's gonna be Chem + Clem + NF + Sky.
It wasn't really a serious consideration, it was just my personal coalition PoE.