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In post 6216, RadiantCowbells wrote:and yeah. ofrhz did nothing today, and their explanation of why they were scumreading us despite us being objectively conftown by role is that we were scumreading their slot.
so...

Counterpoint: Ausuka's doing even less than ofhrz.
So.

In post 6225, RadiantCowbells wrote:Wait why's the game still ongoing then

The game's still ongoing because you're fucking suggesting a possibility that's a literal impossibility and the answer is that it's just not the fucking case. Bam. Answered.

In post 6225, RadiantCowbells wrote:Wait why's the game still ongoing then

BAM.

That easy to establish.

In post 6228, RadiantCowbells wrote:Or maybe some sort of white flag and there's no traitor?

White flag?

You mean the mechanic where scum win when they achieve parity and lose when there's only one scum left?

That setup mechanic?

The one which is proven to be impossible to have its conditions exist?

scum have flipped. scum win condition is known, and it's not reaching parity.
i'll wait for an answer from xyzzy.
are you so sure that ofrhz is town?

In post 6242, RadiantCowbells wrote:

Mastina if you don't vote Ofrhz in your next post I'm voting you.

Yeah go ahead and gamethrow if you want.

I'll take absolutely zero fucking blame.

Not. one. fucking. iota.

You can place absolutely 0% of it on me.
For not fucking voting town.

For not fucking humoring your fucking paranoia.

In a fucking lylo game.

I'm going to vote for scum.
If I thought ofhrz was scum I would vote him.
I don't.
The more ofhrz posts the more he looks like town; the more Ausuka posts the more she looks like scum.

Hey Mastina if you force me to lynch you over ofrhz and you're town then the loss wasn't on me, it was on .

you know full well that I'm a way better scumhunter than you.

i don't believe for a moment
for 1 fucking moment

that you hard defend ofrhz in this way as town, townreading me, when I'm telling you that he's scum.

Ignoring all the awful associatives between your slots all game, i don't think you stand in my way when you're acutely aware of how strong my town performance has been this year.

This is one of the times you can sheep RC safely

you guys sound stressed

I



ofrhz is scum.

and if you're calling him town, I'm going to assume it's because you're his buddy.
and if it's not, I don't take the loss. you do.

and you know full well I've earned the right to say that I someone is scum, and it's coming from a mechanically cleared me, no less.
Hell, you ought to be acutely aware of the fact that it's STRICTLY AGAINST YOUR WINCONDITION for you to be lynched over Ofrhz here.

we'll see what Xyzzy says.

Mastina

I'm townsiding this one. (Well, I'm actually RC siding :shrug:)

I know when to sheep RC and when his reads are wrong for whatever reason. RC is right this time.

nah, i don't know what the setup is but mastina/ofhrz are literally scum together or masons and if they were masons they would have claimed at start of day.

given that it explicitly disproves one possible alignment distribution

I don't think xyzzy will answer

In post 6304, RadiantCowbells wrote:

why

are you so sure that ofrhz is town?

I did my fucking analysis, that's why.

At every stage, there were many reasons which fit with ofhrz as being town.
At every stage, there were many reasons which suggested that the question--in spite of my townread on your slot--shouldn't be "ofhrz or Ausuka", but rather "Who or Ausuka".
At every stage today, ofhrz's posts have just felt town overwhelmingly, strongly, town. He's just been feeling like he's town. He's just been feeling like everything he's been doing, been saying, his approach, doesn't come from scum. I thought at the start of today that with his posting there was a very real chance he was scum; for the entire game, I thought his posts could come from scum. But the more and more I read, the more and more I see, the less and less that actually feels right. My scumread of ofhrz was based around basically the feeling of him being active lurking scum keeping his options open, yet the more and more I read the less and less that looked to be true.

At every stage, it looked like he was genuinely contributing with thoughts coming from town.

I know, from my own experience, how town players reacted to PenguinPower's claim. They wanted to spam the game out to at least 200 pages, maybe even aim for the longshot nigh-impossible goal of 1000 pages. I know this because that's what I felt; I know it's what ofhrz felt because it's what he did. And yet Ausuka alone stands out as the only slot who didn't. (If I recall correctly, Who was involved in the spam and/or you were involved in the spam though I may be mistaken there and need to double-check it butstill.)

Scum, knowing what PenguinPower's real role was, and knowing that PenguinPower was faking a guilty, wouldn't feel the need, the inclination, to partake in the spam because they knew that PenguinPower was scum. But town didn't know PenguinPower was scum. So town treated PenguinPower's claim as if it were real and tried to make the most of his claimed role. ofhrz very much did that.

From every angle, ofhrz feels like town the more and more I see.

What he's doing today, what he's thinking, who he's pushing, it feels town. ofhrz thought that I was scum more than anyone else and yet ofhrz as scum would know that his best chance at getting a mislynch would be to target Ausuka--the reason why he'd know that is because he'd know that I was townreading you (I made this quite clear yesterday) so I wouldn't vote you and thus lynching you would be impossible. Thus his only options would be Ausuka or me, and yet he townread Ausuka and thought Ausuka was the least likely to be scum.

Whereas Ausuka literally is fucking sheeping you because she knows that as long as you don't vote her, she wins. She can vote me, she can vote ofhrz, doesn't matter. She can win either way. Especially since prior to recently I was scumreading ofhrz. I thought he was scum so very realistically could have voted him. You thought he was scum enough to vote him.

I think ofhrz is town and Ausuka is scum just because it's what makes the most sense and is what I feel.

by win conditions a faction doesn't win until they are incapable of losing, and mastina would have known that. she's perfectly capable of making that bluff.

In post 6306, RadiantCowbells wrote:Hey Mastina if you force me to lynch you over ofrhz and you're town then the loss wasn't on me, it was on

YOU

.

No, the fault lies on the player who votes town and lets scum hammer town. Don't try to fucking shift blame.

If ofhrz is scum, then you can convince me of that.

I saw ofhrz as scum for the whole fucking game. I saw ofhrz as scum before, so I can see it again. If he actually is.

But I don't fucking think he is because that's not what everything in the game tells me.

I've done all I'm doing to convince you, Mastina.

I think this is mastina's towngame though.

Rc

Should I make a wall case on why ofrhz is scum

then this play really needs to be lynched until it stops. idc.
conftown with an exorbitantly strong towngame over the year is telling her the someone is confirmed scum and she's refusing to vote them.

Rc

Should I make a wall case on why ofrhz is scum

sure but I think that I'm right that it's both of them and any efforts you make to convince her will just result in her trying to argue why your case is incorrect.

Okay mastina

First thing's first

RC can be wrong rarely

He isn't this time