It doesn't mean scum don't have n3 vig, but I guess that's moot now.
For now we just wait to hear results.
these are all boring but datisi's feels weird tonally while skitter's is just robotic
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:50 pm
by Kaiji
In post 6300, catboi wrote:I wish I felt vindication or like anything but I'm just exhausted right now
this is karma for circus mafia
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:51 pm
by Kaiji
u are now equalized
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:51 pm
by catboi
In post 6291, Kaiji wrote:Catboi if you're not doing some batshit crazy gambit with enchant, I apologize for the read flip.
I do want to say I would never have mena guilty you there as I was townreading you.
You'll prob write that off as WIFOM but it is true.
You realize that you are like, the primary candidate here for faking a guilty on town, right? I don't know who else actually tries to pull something like that.
In post 6300, catboi wrote:I wish I felt vindication or like anything but I'm just exhausted right now
this is karma for circus mafia
look that was dumb but I had a REASON
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:54 pm
by Kaiji
I think that I'm not the only one who could think of that. As much as I'd like to discuss hypotheticals, I think: You, Skitter, SS, Alyssa, Datisi are all capable also of suggesting a fake guilty, which means it is something that doesnt really narrow teams down here.
I cede yes it is possible I have him do that but i dont think in that situation.
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:55 pm
by catboi
I put in basically 0 time thinking about this game overnight because I didn't want to and was anticipating more of a screaming match today
I can try to actually put a read in tomorrow
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:55 pm
by catboi
In post 6306, Kaiji wrote:I think that I'm not the only one who could think of that. As much as I'd like to discuss hypotheticals, I think: You, Skitter, SS, Alyssa, Datisi are all capable also of suggesting a fake guilty, which means it is something that doesnt really narrow teams down here.
I cede yes it is possible I have him do that but i dont think in that situation.
Why wouldn't you do it
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:56 pm
by catboi
oh right brainflash SS literally did have a teammate fake a guilty in this setup
In post 6306, Kaiji wrote:I think that I'm not the only one who could think of that. As much as I'd like to discuss hypotheticals, I think: You, Skitter, SS, Alyssa, Datisi are all capable also of suggesting a fake guilty, which means it is something that doesnt really narrow teams down here.
I cede yes it is possible I have him do that but i dont think in that situation.
Why wouldn't you do it
I don't know the scum team composition, but let's assume:
Goon - Ascetic Cop(i believe pooky was actually *taunting* mare with that) - 1 shot vig
in this composition - if mena is just dead weight, I dont bother making him survive another day.
I dont think my position in the gamestate makes it 100% impossible but my instinct once its d3 onwards is bus 4 cred because then endgame becomes impossible.
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:58 pm
by Kaiji
wait no scum would take BP
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:59 pm
by Kaiji
if enchant flips BP i would clear mare via spew from that thing i did see from pooky
its stupid and small but i believe in it lol
(willing to be overriden with better logic but its a great baseline spew read)
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:02 pm
by Kaiji
I think the better question is though: what benefit do I perceive gaining by doing such a gambit and also being on the side that is clearly losing instead of faking a reevaluation onto enchant.
if we didnt have the snowstorm over the weekend i would have ended up voting enchant based on my n3 vig read
9 are alive, and it takes 5 votes to reevaluate someone's considerations
Skitter is precisely in a position where I feel scum would be, ensuring enchant doesnt go over but also seeming like they are on the right side with their words.
I feel this also clears Datisi and Alyssa to a degree.
I hate to say it but my reads on replace in feel like were much more accurate than I thought lol.
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:05 pm
by Kaiji
Skitter didn't even give the opportunity to hammer enchant if we wanted to there -an important distinction from actually being on enchant wagon.
I'll dig deeper later but I think at least this should convince people of the viability of me being town and my solve (atm) being potentially correct.
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:08 pm
by Kaiji
Catboi - who do you think gets nightkilled here after enchant dies?
More specifically, after we no lim for 5 way, who do you think the 2 dead players are?
I feel it will be you and Alyssa.
Also @mare hood me tonight i work well in hoods and it would let me talk about the game during the nightphase we are no limming lol
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:25 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
Eh I was hoping for a little beyond what you actually looked at but I see the ambiguity
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:08 pm
by Kaiji
im no longer as busy as I was earlier
except maybe i will go grab food
If we reach limlo and no one wants to question me i will try to canvas a self towncase myself lol
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:49 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
I mean, I guess I'll just say it
I think the scumteam is exactly Enchant + Datisi + Something_Smart
I think the scumteam is exactly Enchant + Datisi + Something_Smart
this isn't far off from my current solve.
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:51 pm
by Kaiji
Why datisi fwiw.
I feel his lack of engagement in thread is a toss up.
Datisi is kinda slotted into the 4th "scum" slot for me atp
Who would be a backup scum if either datisi or SS were modconfirmed town?
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:01 pm
by Something_Smart
Datisi/Pooky picking multitasking and intentionally colliding is a pretty tough pill to swallow. Though I obviously know that solve is wrong anyway, and I don't know how much of it is associative-based.
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:02 pm
by Something_Smart
Is no-lim in 6-way wise? Scum could have vengeful.
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:13 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
In post 6321, Kaiji wrote:Why datisi fwiw.
I feel his lack of engagement in thread is a toss up.
Datisi is kinda slotted into the 4th "scum" slot for me atp
Who would be a backup scum if either datisi or SS were modconfirmed town?