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Posted: **Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:49 pm**

think I'm partially lost right now in terms of reads; the players that I hard TR and hard SR have taken a 180

also what you said earlier makes sense and I think you're being super pro-active today with solid reasoning

Posted: **Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:59 pm**

In post 6360, Tchill13 wrote:Why do you think scum killed sajj?

Why would a scum team with me on it kill sajj?

Because Saj is hardtown after that scumflip.

Either of those flips would have been enough for my reads to change dramatically, which they have.

Posted: **Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:01 pm**

D5 reads

Conf town

: Hopkirk

Town

: KK, JJD,

Leaning Town

: Tchill, Krazy

Semi-Leaning Town

: Texcat (dead), Wavemode, Mylo
Null/Undecided: Vax

Semi-Leaning Scum

: Creature, Gamma, Skygazer, Anka

Leaning Scum

: SS (dead), TBG

Scum

:

flip these reads

Conf town

: Hopkirk

Town

:

Leaning Town

: SS (dead), TBG

Semi-leaning town

: Creature, Gamma, Skygazer, Anka

Null/undecided

: Vax

Semi-leaning scum

: Wavemode, Mylo

Leaning scum

: Tchill, Krazy

Scum

: KK, JJD

Posted: **Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:02 pm**

@Hopkirk who are your biggest townreads and scumreads right now?

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:40 am**

In post 6352, Ankamius wrote:Wavemode: you are a vanilla neighbor, correct?

yes why

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:44 am**

VOTE: Kublai Khan

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:55 am**

oh yeah Kublai Khan i wanted to ask

In post 6305, Kublai Khan wrote:Excited to see texcat as a last minute change.

why were you excited to see this change?

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:56 am**

i know personally i was dreading reading through this sudden CFD that popped up while I was away and dissolved every other wagon. at the time given its speed I was expecting it to flip town

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:22 am**

Day 6 VC #3Krazy (1) - Wavemode (6338)
Kublai Khan (1) - Creature (6380)
Tchill13 (1) - Krazy (6329)
Vaxkiller (1) - Kublai Khan (6340)
Myloninja13 (0) -
Not Voting (10) - Gamma Emerald, Vaxkiller, TehBrawlGuy, Skygazer, Ankamius, Myloninj13, Golden Robster, JarJarDrinks, Hopkirk, Tchill13

Lynch ThresholdDuring day 6, it takes 8 votes to lynch a player.

DeadlineDay 6 ends on August 17, 2018 9:15 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2018-08-17 21:15:00).

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Spoiler: Current Voting History

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 5

* - Hammer Vote
^ - Vote after hammer.

Golden Robster (2): TehBrawlGuy (5311) -->

Scioness Sajj

(6017)
Krazy (6): Gamma Emerald (5115) --> Tchill13 (5683) -->

Texcat

(5721) --> Gamma Emerald (5816) -->

Scioness Sajj

(5948) -->

Texcat

(5980)
Creature (7): Gamma Emerald (5397) -->

Scioness Sajj

(5577) --> JarJarDrinks (5751) --> Skygazer (6076) -->

Texcat

(6168) --> (Null) (6274) -->

Texcat

(6290)
Kublai Khan (3): Wavemode (5305) --> TehBrawlGuy (5520) -->

Texcat

(6303*)
Hopkirk (4): Krazy (5265) -->

Scioness Sajj

(5648) --> TehBrawlGuy (5942) -->

Scioness Sajj

(6024)
Gamma Emerald (4): Golden Robster (5631) --> JarJarDrinks (5703) --> (Null) (5929) -->

Texcat

(5983)
Tchill13 (4): Vaxkiller (5135) --> TehBrawlGuy (5139) ==> TehBrawlGuy (5174) -->

Scioness Sajj

(6037)
Skygazer (6): Wavemode (5439) --> (Null) (5480) -->

Scioness Sajj

(5640) -->

Texcat

(5985) -->

Scioness Sajj

(6019) -->

Texcat

(6172)
JarJarDrinks (6): TehBrawlGuy (5422) -->

Scioness Sajj

(5692) --> TehBrawlGuy (5848) -->

Scioness Sajj

(5936) --> TehBrawlGuy (5965) -->

Scioness Sajj

(6018)
Ankamius (9): Wavemode (5168) --> TehBrawlGuy (5643) ==> TehBrawlGuy (5693) --> JarJarDrinks (5713) -->

Texcat

(5984) --> (Null) (6002) -->

Texcat

(6010) -->

Scioness Sajj

(6016) -->

Texcat

(6176)

Texcat

(1): TehBrawlGuy (5689)
TehBrawlGuy (7): JarJarDrinks (5126) --> Wavemode (5373) -->

Scioness Sajj

(5653) --> JarJarDrinks (5709) -->

Texcat

(5975) -->

Scioness Sajj

(6039) -->

Texcat

(6065)
Vaxkiller (5): Krazy (5118) --> Gamma Emerald (5121) -->

Scioness Sajj

(5649) --> JarJarDrinks (5847) -->

Texcat

(5986)
Wavemode (6): Krazy (5263) --> TehBrawlGuy (5579) --> Gamma Emerald (5869) --> Golden Robster (5870) --> Wavemode (5871) --> TehBrawlGuy (5872)
Myloninja13 (2): Gamma Emerald (5394) --> TehBrawlGuy (5775) --> _{Texcat
(6308^)}

Scioness Sajj

(6): Gamma Emerald (5309) --> (Null) (5633) --> Myloninja13 (5642) --> TehBrawlGuy (5680) --> JarJarDrinks (5714) -->

Texcat

(5989)

Day 4

* - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral

(1):

Texcat

(4670)
Golden Robster (2):

Scioness Sajj

(4681) -->

Dunnstral

(5019)
Krazy (3):

Texcat

(4669) --> Gamma Emerald (4859) -->

Dunnstral

(5104*)
Creature (3):

Scioness Sajj

(4665) -->

Texcat

(4745) -->

Dunnstral

(4817)
Hopkirk (5):

Scioness Sajj

(4672) --> (Null) (4848) -->

Scioness Sajj

(4857) --> Vaxkiller (4992) --> Golden Robster (5062)
Gamma Emerald (1):

Dunnstral

(4847)
Tchill13 (6):

Scioness Sajj

(4707) -->

Dunnstral

(4822) -->

Scioness Sajj

(4863) -->

Dunnstral

(4988) --> (Null) (5064) --> TehBrawlGuy (5102)
Skygazer (4):

Scioness Sajj

(4717) -->

Texcat

(4888) --> (Null) (4894) -->

Dunnstral

(4973)
JarJarDrinks (2):

Scioness Sajj

(4674) -->

Dunnstral

(4815)
Ankamius (3): Tchill13 (4756) -->

Texcat

(5002) --> Krazy (5049)

Texcat

(1):

Dunnstral

(4829)
TehBrawlGuy (1):

Texcat

(4710)
Vaxkiller (1):

Scioness Sajj

(4721)
Wavemode (2):

Scioness Sajj

(4854) -->

Dunnstral

(5071)

PenguinPower

(2):

Scioness Sajj

(4713) -->

Dunnstral

(4819)
Myloninja13 (3):

Dunnstral

(4837) --> Gamma Emerald (4965) -->

Dunnstral

(5059)

Scioness Sajj

(2):

Texcat

(4675) --> (Null) (4895)

Day 3

* - Hammer vote
^ - Vote occurred after hammer

Dunnstral

(2): Myloninja13 (3463) -->

Texcat

(4162)
Golden Robster (3):

Dunnstral

(3559) --> TehBrawlGuy (4208) --> Creature (4255)
Pine (0):
Krazy (3):

Dunnstral

(3978) -->

Texcat

(4161) --> Gamma Emerald (4392)
Creature (8):

Texcat

(3472) -->

Lalendra

(3681) -->

Texcat

(3744) --> Myloninja13 (4013) -->

Texcat

(4165) -->

Lalendra

(4213) --> Kublai Khan (4260) -->

Lalendra

(4284)
Kublai Khan (7): Creature (3511) -->

Lalendra

(4033) --> TehBrawlGuy (4184) --> Creature (4240) -->

Lalendra

(4308) --> Gamma Emerald (4416) -->

Lalendra

(4557)
Hopkirk (3):

Lalendra

(3661) --> Myloninja13 (4082) -->

Lalendra

(4339)
Gamma Emerald (3):

Lalendra

(3913) --> (Null) (3954) --> Myloninja13 (4073)

Ausuka

(4): Myloninja13 (3640) -->

Lalendra

(3677) --> Myloninja13 (4010) -->

Lalendra

(4286)

Lalendra

(3): TehBrawlGuy (3719) --> Myloninja13 (4130) --> Creature (4384)
Tchill13 (3):

Lalendra

(3690) --> Myloninja13 (4082) -->

Lalendra

(4215)
Frozen Angel (0):
Skygazer (1):

Lalendra

(4564)
JarJarDrinks (5): Creature (3616) --> (Null) (3694) -->

Lalendra

(3695) -->

Dunnstral

(3704) -->

Lalendra

(3721)
Ankamius (3):

Lalendra

(3801) --> (Null) (4044) --> Creature (4239)

Texcat

(1): Myloninja13 (3637)
TehBrawlGuy (4): JarJarDrinks (3466) -->

Texcat

(3790) --> Creature (4245) --> Gamma Emerald (4421)
Vaxkiller (3): Kublai Khan (4004) --> Myloninja13 (4214) -->

Lalendra

(4220)
Wavemode (2): TehBrawlGuy (3468) -->

Lalendra

(3716) --> _{Ankamius (4600^)}

PenguinPower

(3):

Texcat

(3473) --> Myloninja13 (3643) -->

Lalendra

(3678)
Myloninja13 (2):

Dunnstral

(3765) --> Creature (4252)

Scioness Sajj

(3):

Texcat

(3756) --> Creature (4338) -->

Lalendra

(4577*)

Day 2

Note: * - Hammer Vote

Dunnstral

(4): Myloninja13 (1942) --> JarJarDrinks (2206) -->

PenguinPower

(3242) --> TehBrawlGuy (3248)
Golden Robster (17): Hopkirk (2078) --> (Null) (2096) -->

PenguinPower

(2112) -->

Scioness Sajj

(2152) --> Vaxkiller (2171) --> (Null) (2288) --> Creature (2299) -->

WhemeStar

(2304) --> Wavemode (2367) -->

Scioness Sajj

(2432) --> TehBrawlGuy (2526) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2642) --> (Null) (2783) -->

PenguinPower

(2979) -->

WhemeStar

(3099) --> (Null) (3284) -->

WhemeStar

(3286)
Pine (1): Andriod18 (1936)
Creature (3): Myloninja13 (1941) -->

PenguinPower

(2835) -->

WhemeStar

(3453*)
Kublai Khan (5):

Flavor Leaf

(1944) --> (Null) (2366) --> Vaxkiller (2423) -->

PenguinPower

(2899) -->

WhemeStar

(3027)

WhemeStar

(4): Vaxkiller (2245) --> JarJarDrinks (2301) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2542) -->

PenguinPower

(2930)
Hopkirk (5): Andriod18 (2197) --> Kublai Khan (2346) --> (Null) (2781) ==> (Null) (2782) -->

WhemeStar

(3008)
Gamma Emerald (5): Kublai Khan (2488) --> Golden Robster (2839) --> (Null) (2867) -->

PenguinPower

(2990) -->

WhemeStar

(3318)

Ausuka

(7):

PenguinPower

(1960) --> Myloninja13 (2434) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2504) --> (Null) (2573) --> Myloninja13 (2574) --> TehBrawlGuy (3023) -->

WhemeStar

(3293)

Lalendra

(7): Vaxkiller (2184) --> JarJarDrinks (2334) --> Andriod18 (2503) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2657) --> (Null) (2705) -->

PenguinPower

(2809) -->

WhemeStar

(3097)
EspeciallyTheLies (1):

PenguinPower

(1996)
JarJarDrinks (10): Andriod18 (1945) --> EspeciallyTheLies (2041) --> (Null) (2066) --> Andriod18 (2192) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2327) --> (Null) (2612) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2640) --> (Null) (2755) --> Andriod18 (2943) -->

WhemeStar

(3030)
Andriod18 (2): JarJarDrinks (2116) --> Kublai Khan (2533)

Texcat

(2): ArcAngel9 (1987) --> Myloninja13 (2552)
ArcAngel9 (1):

Texcat

(2072)
TehBrawlGuy (7): (Null) (2535) --> Wavemode (2690) -->

WhemeStar

(3062) --> (Null) (3118) -->

WhemeStar

(3165) --> (Null) (3196) -->

WhemeStar

(3233)
Vaxkiller (5):

WhemeStar

(2343) --> Myloninja13 (2472) -->

PenguinPower

(3012) -->

WhemeStar

(3112) -->

PenguinPower

(3290)
Wavemode (6):

Texcat

(2044) --> Andriod18 (2331) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2635) --> (Null) (2800) -->

WhemeStar

(2966) ==>

WhemeStar

(3115)

PenguinPower

(7): Myloninja13 (1947) --> Kublai Khan (2572) -->

Flavor Leaf

(2709) --> Myloninja13 (2759) --> Golden Robster (2775) --> (Null) (2894) -->

WhemeStar

(2962)
Myloninja13 (1):

PenguinPower

(2437)

Scioness Sajj

(3): Andriod18 (2904) -->

WhemeStar

(3034) -->

PenguinPower

(3255)

Flavor Leaf

(5): JarJarDrinks (2205) --> Kublai Khan (2499) -->

PenguinPower

(2715) --> Golden Robster (2774) -->

WhemeStar

(2958)

Day 1

Note: * = Hammer Vote

Note: ^ = Vote after hammer vote.

Dunnstral

(5):

Osuka

(77) -->

Texcat

(1388) -->

Lalendra

(1623) -->

Osuka

(1758) -->

Performer

(1782)

Srceenplay

(0): (Null)

Performer

(5):

Osuka

(623) -->

TheRampage

(909) --> Wavemode (1051) --> Andriod18 (1765) -->

Performer

(1849)*

Joral

(0): (Null)

Almost50

(8): Hopkirk (97) --> Edosurist (226) -->

Osuka

(390) -->

Ausuka

(1205) --> (Null) (1304) --> Vaxkiller (1352) --> (Null) (1380) --> Andriod18 (1460)
Fumuki (0): (Null)
Golden Robster (13):

Almost50

(177) --> Wavemode (183) -->

Osuka

(236) -->

Ausuka (317)

--> JarJarDrinks (319) --> (Null) (546) --> Vaxkiller (602) --> (Null) (1504) --> Wavemode (1588) --> (Null) (1589) --> ArcAngel9 (1770) --> Andriod18 (1784) --> (Null) (1798)
Pine (2):

Osuka

(176) --> Andriod18 (1835)
Creature (6):

Performer

(385) --> Myloninja13 (720) -->

TheRampage

(813) -->

Performer

(898) --> Andriod18 (1449) -->

Performer

(1846)
Kublai Khan (6):

Osuka

(76) -->

Almost50

(122) -->

Scioness Sajj

(388) --> JarJarDrinks (536) -->

Osuka

(725) -->

Performer

(957)

WhemeStar

(3):

Lalendra

(234) --> JarJarDrinks (797) -->

Flavor Leaf

(955)
Hopkirk (9):

Osuka

(90) -->

Lalendra

(279) -->

Osuka

(696) --> (Null) (993) --> Wavemode (999) -->

Performer

(1273) --> (Null) (1315) -->

Performer

(1458) --> Andriod18 (1679)
Edosurist (2):

Texcat

(84) -->

Almost50

(222)
Gamma Emerald (3): Vaxkiller (710) --> Wavemode (1107) --> Andriod18 (1711) --> _{(Null) (1889)^}

Ausuka

(9): JarJarDrinks (89) --> Creature (104) --> Myloninja13 (429) --> (Null) (742) -->

TheRampage

(743) --> Wavemode (998) -->

Performer

(1604) -->

Lalendra

(1624) --> Andriod18 (1680)

Lalendra

(3):

Almost50

(209) --> (Null) (559) -->

Performer

(1229)
EspeciallyTheLies (2):

Almost50

(83) -->

Performer

(515)
Lovebird (1): Edosurist (259)
Davesaz (1): Wavemode (1014)
Frozen Angel (3):

Performer

(1579) --> (Null) (1606) -->

Performer

(1814)
JarJarDrinks (8):

Osuka

(85) -->

Almost50

(114) --> Charles510 (186) --> Edosurist (231) -->

Osuka

(535) -->

Ausuka

(842) --> Wavemode (1112) --> Andriod18 (1410)

Osuka

(10): Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) -->

Performer

(769) -->

TheRampage

(771) -->

Performer

(1047) --> Vaxkiller (1359) -->

Performer

(1384)

Texcat

(4):

Osuka

(79) --> Wavemode (1080) -->

Osuka

(1703) --> Andriod18 (1777)
Andriod18 (4): Kublai Khan (190) --> Lovebird (290) --> JarJarDrinks (855) -->

Performer

(1796)
ArcAngel9 (4):

Texcat

(81) -->

TheRampage

(223) -->

Texcat

(604) -->

Performer

(1397)
Charles510 (2): JarJarDrinks (87) --> (Null) (310)
Vaxkiller (8): JarJarDrinks (363) -->

Scioness Sajj

(389) --> Andriod18 (437) --> JarJarDrinks (532) --> Golden Robster (678) --> Wavemode (1078) -->

TheRampage

(1085) -->

Performer

(1116)
Wavemode (5):

Texcat

(82) --> Charles510 (131) --> (Null) (838) -->

Osuka

(867) -->

Performer

(1108)

TheRampage

(3): Creature (100) --> (Null) (509) -->

Osuka

(681)

PenguinPower

(1):

Performer

(1774)
Myloninja13 (4): Edosurist (233) --> JarJarDrinks (326) -->

Performer

(1554) --> Andriod18 (1787)

Scioness Sajj

(4):

Ausuka

(406) --> (Null) (1325) -->

Performer

(1552) --> Andriod18 (1760)

Flavor Leaf

(1): Andriod18 (1772)

Pre-Game

Dunnstral

(2):

Texcat

(9) --> Pine (43)

Srceenplay

(1): Andriod18 (62)
Pine (1):

Osuka

(16)
Kublai Khan (1): Pine (34)
Hopkirk (1):

Osuka

(66)
Edosurist (1): Pine (42)

Osuka

(2): Pine (28) --> Wavemode (33)

Texcat

(1): Pine (44)
Wavemode (1):

Osuka

(31)

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:43 am**

In post 6381, wavemode wrote:oh yeah Kublai Khan i wanted to ask

In post 6305, Kublai Khan wrote:Excited to see texcat as a last minute change.
why were you excited to see this change?

Scioness Sajj & TehBrawlGuy were possible scum. texcat was a much stronger scum read for loner, but never seemed to get traction as a lynch.

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:22 am**

you were townreading tex for most of the game as far as I can see

when did you decide that tex was scum and what was the reason

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:29 am**

In post 6385, wavemode wrote:you were townreading tex for most of the game as far as I can see

when did you decide that tex was scum and what was the reason

I had a day 1 townread on texcat, that died after the Whemestar lynch.

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:35 am**

In post 6347, Kublai Khan wrote:Hmm.. Wavemode doesn't make sense as a partner based on those VCs.

You seriously read all of them?

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:37 am**

In post 6374, Ankamius wrote:Like building a likeness of the people I'm looking for before looking for them in the sea of people

So you're basically building a profile to look at
this is a cool playstyle tbh, very forensic

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:50 am**

In post 6387, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6347, Kublai Khan wrote:Hmm.. Wavemode doesn't make sense as a partner based on those VCs.
You seriously read all of them?

They aren't reading materials. They are lists with patterns therein.

Look through Day 1. Notice that texcat and Whemestar are rarely on the same wagons together? it's super common for scum to spread out their votes and avoid bunching up. The people I scum-read had a similar pattern.

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:55 am**

In post 6389, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 6387, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6347, Kublai Khan wrote:Hmm.. Wavemode doesn't make sense as a partner based on those VCs.
You seriously read all of them?
They aren't reading materials. They are lists with patterns therein.

Look through Day 1. Notice that texcat and Whemestar are rarely on the same wagons together? it's super common for scum to spread out their votes and avoid bunching up. The people I scum-read had a similar pattern.

I see. That makes sense.

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:38 am**

TBG comes off pretty good in those VC's

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:39 am**

In post 3355 VC i'm betting we have some scum on that PP wagon.

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:41 am**

VOTE: tchill

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:42 am**

Kublai, the only thing that bothers me about you is your random voting for me.

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:42 am**

Why the slot that was on there long before the Whemestar wagon?

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:44 am**

In post 6379, wavemode wrote:
In post 6352, Ankamius wrote:Wavemode: you are a vanilla neighbor, correct?
yes why

This is strange

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:54 am**

I gotta reset. I'm sorry for the clutter and confusion I've caused.

I'll answer any questions you have for me though.

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:55 am**

I'm only paranoid of ank btw. I have no solid reason to push her as scum.

Posted: **Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:12 am**

In post 6396, Ankamius wrote:
In post 6379, wavemode wrote:
In post 6352, Ankamius wrote:Wavemode: you are a vanilla neighbor, correct?
yes why
This is strange

why is it strange

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