In post 6373, Ydrasse wrote:i think i am a little weirded out because im rereading that long chain of posts skitter made and it was to distract from dunn but also a lot of it was defending gamma too so like
i guess, if skitter is scummy for keeping pressure away from dunn (if the scumteam was assuming the chair was bad because clearly skitter didn't /want/ dunn up there), what does that say abt the gamma defense at e-1 and then going elsewhere
ydrasse i just put the hypothesis there: she helped run him up then ran away from the wagon so he wouldn't execute her in retaliation
if the pan was to get scum into the chair i don't see why she bothers getting off him
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:28 pm
by ulyana
potentially suspicious once kingmaker revealed yeah?
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:29 pm
by petapan
in particular, second to last VC: if they cared about getting galron in the chair, scum could have done so with dunn at the least
that they didn't is probably owed to lack of caring
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:30 pm
by petapan
In post 6376, ulyana wrote:potentially suspicious once kingmaker revealed yeah?
In post 6376, ulyana wrote:potentially suspicious once kingmaker revealed yeah?
Pretty sure scum didn’t want one of theirs in the chair even with how it worked, as I’m pretty sure they also knew the execute/spare vote was also coming, I’ve been of this mind since event 2
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:07 pm
by Taly
I don't normally see scum hard-defend a scummate while pushing another in the same vein. At least not so openly.
The typical purpose to shade a partner is to distance
(Dunn)
, but
Skitter
defending
Gamma
openly ignores this.
petapan wrote:i think skitter running up gamma and then abandoning the wagon was trying to avoid the execution. i also think he's never aligned with the saber slot and i am
always
flipping that one first for hopefully obvious reasons
This makes so much more sense as
Gamma
teetered on/off with a
Dunn
scumread/push.
These were all
Gamma
posts between
Galron
wagon being established beginning with
Skitter
and the
Dunn
wagons that
Gamma
tried to upstart being conveyed via VCA.
In post 1143, Gamma Emerald wrote:Trust these people until the end of time: Taly, Infinity, Skitter, Ydrasse
Good folks to keep around: Gypyx, Galron, Sircakez, Pooky
Could do with a touching-up: Saber, Toogeloo, Dwlee
Remove them from the premises: Cephrir, Dunnstral, Ulyana, Petapan
Since I’m not long for this world I may as well leave this as a parting gift.
In post 1223, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also I feel like Dunnstral being like this tends to be a scumtell
He also scumtold by reacting to my Ulyana push way too fast
In post 625, skitter30 wrote:the issue that i'm having here is that i'm used to town-infinity having more 'oomph' and 'being here' more than she has been, esp. in response to my saying i scumread her. usually if town-her feels i'm reading her wrong (which has happened multiple times in the past), she kicks into gear, starts pushing me, and has a visceral sort of response. here she's kinda just passively accepting it and not really doing anything abt it, which i think is a reaction much more likely to come from scum-her.
like the fact that she's 'just kinda there' is what i'm finding scummy here.
You've got Infinity, Peta and me in the 'just kinda there' category. I don't disagree that I've been pretty inactive, but other than pushback from Infinity, what do you expect from Peta and from me?
Well for infinity i think the fact that she's occupying that slot runs counter to her town-meta
For u and peta, i'm trying to prod you into doing ai stuff thay i can read
Although at this point i think ur scum for other reasons
In post 703, skitter30 wrote:I forgot to say this earlier - while infinity and dwlee are both independantly scummy i dont think they make ssense together
I missed this, and reading back skitter never explicity stated that they were a team; I just inferred that.
In post 3033, Taly wrote:I'm more often endgamed than I am mislimmed.
Is this because you think your reads aren't good? Susceptible to pocket? Still would like a little bit more cause yeah my thoughts were genuine and this is opportunity to get a more personal looka t you.
No and yes. Your predecessor,
Galron
, was right. I'm very susceptible to AtE.
I also have unpredictable read progressions.
I usually die the moment I get a strong solve.
I've had very strong elo performances but I still tend to lose them because scum takes advantage of people misinterpreting me.
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Who is exactly bothering you and how it is affecting your reads? I don't remember what a readlist from you looks like.
Saber/Cakez
are people I'm afraid of being pocketed by.
Infinity/Peta
to a lesser degree but I have a lot of recent reasons to negate that with viewing them with town motive.
Dwlee
doesn't feel agenda based at all. My only reference of scum him was that he had a clear position to take that was advantageous to him and there is nothing for him to cling on here.
Uly
Town.
Skitter
seems like a team player judging off my last comvo with her.
Ydra
is a slot I want to townread but I feel could easily be in a team with most players.
Toog
too but I feel like he is more LHF than definitively scum or town.
Gamma
hasn't made many pushes this game that I approve of but I think they're sincere intention-wise.
Dunn
is stiff and someone I want to see an event result around to read better.
I felt generally good about
Galron
and I kind of feel like the heat your slot gets is very mob-centric and something I don't entirely trust, but can understand the reasons of suspicion.
Where is
Gypyx
?
In post 3099, Taly wrote:I don't care for this gladiator bullshit tbh.
wagon start bussing whatever partner(s) that reside in
{Cakez/Dunn}
?
In post 5538, Taly wrote:also, if some fuckshit happens and I die as I cross, my current solve is Tamora/Cakez/? and out of the currently uncrossed, I'd like Ulya/Ydra/Gammagooey to come through in no particular order, and the last crosser can be decided between Fire/Toog/Gypyx. Two of these must be town if my current solve is correct, so it's not a bad PoE.
Imagine predicting the future
Infinity/Skitter
dynamic was my blindspot this game. Also took awhile to lock
Ulya/Ydra
.
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:07 pm
by Taly
Scum really should've killed me when they had the chance.
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:22 pm
by Gammagooey
Taly wrote:I want this phase to end. I'm excited to think about what Heaven and Hell does and Event 6's conclusion merely strengthened my reads in Event 5.
Ydra/Ulya's
WIM feels sincere and I don't think either display an active scum agenda.
I'm good to discuss and allow people to continue dissecting this game, but until there is tangible evidence otherwise, I think this is solved.
I have felt the sting of hubris too many times to declare the game solved but I'm ready to rock when ya'll are
VOTE: Ydrasse
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:24 pm
by Taly
I like giving the chance to be stung. Makes things exciting.
VOTE: Ydrasse
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 5:06 pm
by Gamma Emerald
VOTE: ydrasse
I don’t rlly know what y’all are talking about but w/e
Also took awhile to lock 
Scum really should've killed me when they had the chance.
