Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[morph the cat]

420 being legitimate/we were the kill target and April lying.

because that's the only universe where i see you being an acceptable kill target over the "april and his conftown gang"

I still see this as "less likely to be protected than April, yet still potentially dangerous". Not shooting within the PRs maaaybe suggests a PR is lying scum, though, given that 420 would have been more likely to protect someone claiming confirmable/investigative if he's a white mage. Not doing that kinda fits his "not paying a lot of attention" vibe, though. Which is why I asked you about his posts around the point where he entered the D3 convo.

[Remilia Scarlet]

Not shooting within the PRs maaaybe suggests a PR is lying scum, though, given that 420 would have been more likely to protect someone claiming confirmable/investigative if he's a white mage

there weren't really any hard claims out at the end of D1

[Remilia Scarlet]

The value proposition of getting rid of you last night imo just isn't all that high to me.

[morph the cat]

The value proposition of getting rid of you last night imo just isn't all that high to me.

In a world where April exists, I can't dismiss this given he was going to try to mis-lim us based upon some random ass ascetic idea.

[Remilia Scarlet]

having trouble following

[morph the cat]

Not shooting within the PRs maaaybe suggests a PR is lying scum, though, given that 420 would have been more likely to protect someone claiming confirmable/investigative if he's a white mage

there weren't really any hard claims out at the end of D1

I'm talking about last night's kill target. not the n1 protection.

[morph the cat]

I'm trying to put myself into your head here but I'm having a hard time because I trust the White Mage claim way more than you do and it's really hard to get out of that headspace.

[Remilia Scarlet]

I'm talking about last night's kill target. not the n1 protection.

well right but any N2 target coming from a scum team that 420 isn't on needs to take the N1 protection into account

[morph the cat]

I mean maybe I'm just super dumb, but i was operating under the assumption that the N1 protect was on april.

[Remilia Scarlet]

I mean maybe I'm just super dumb, but i was operating under the assumption that the N1 protect was on april.

you were in my top 2, and they were the other one in my top 2

[morph the cat]

I think this is another instance of "self esteem is for everyone except morph" because we didn't feel nearly worthy of a protection n1 after how d1 went.

[morph the cat]

I dunno, Bork. Maybe my internal concept of this game is blinding me, but this is where I'm at:

1. I don't think our play on day 1 after getting repeatedly kneecapped deserved protection, and I don't believe scum would have expected us to be protected instead of April.
2. I had a mild townread on Prism/420 pretty much the entirety of day 1 and that, plus the specificity of the claim (rather than something more generically protected) led me to believe the claim is real (or a mod-supplied fake claim). With the exception of that crazy moment when Cabd thought he'd botched his claim, I have believed he's town. My only concern is if I'm confusing "townreading" with "wanting him to be town". I don't think I am.
3. I think we made a huge tactical error not forcing a flavor claim out of maid on day 1 and I still think they're scum.

[Remilia Scarlet]

I don't think our play on day 1 after getting repeatedly kneecapped deserved protection

and at the same time you must also believe that 420 did in fact protect you

so you think the team is midway/maid?

[morph the cat]

I don't think our play on day 1 after getting repeatedly kneecapped deserved protection

and at the same time you must also believe that 420 did in fact protect you

so you think the team is midway/maid?

Yeah, and the reason I believe that is because of how not-caught-up his posts today felt.

And yeah, that's still my solve. :/ I'm a little worried that so much info and speculation today hasn't shaken things up inside my head very much.

[morph the cat]

:/

[midwaybear]

Why the long face?

[morph the cat]

There are players I want to talk to.

What's your take on the claimed night actions?

[midwaybear]

It looks somewhat bad for maid because I don't think we have 3 scum power roles. Maybe they just aren't detonating as town because they can't speak. That seems reasonable.

[morph the cat]

I'm not following. You think that scum wouldn't have more power than a 1-shot rolecop and an x-shot roleblocker?

Then why can't Maid speak?

[midwaybear]

If they are town, they should be able to speak. Their detonate is a day action, so perhaps this roleblocker power also extends to the day and silences. Ok, that seems unlikely...
It's weird for them to be a mafia day commuter though...

[morph the cat]

How would the roleblocker block both April N2 and Maid D3?

[midwaybear]

That's why I said it looks bad for Maid right now.

[midwaybear]

This is sort of weird though because why would they decide to day commute as scum as opposed to just playing things out

[April Ludgate]

I mean maybe I'm just super dumb, but i was operating under the assumption that the N1 protect was on april.

I planted that into people’s heads yesterday so scum would think this too.

[April Ludgate]

That's why I said it looks bad for Maid right now.

Non issue. If they are ever able to be killed off in game, they will be.