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Post Post #6400 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:01 pm

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In post 6397, Dwlee99 wrote:Yea I was Alisaie with all those crumbs
I knew it.
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Post Post #6401 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:02 pm

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Post Post #6402 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:02 pm

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I almost whipped your ass off the back of isekai mafia where for a long time I was pretending my flavor was Shiro
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In post 6402, Gamma Emerald wrote:I almost whipped your ass off the back of isekai mafia where for a long time I was pretending my flavor was Shiro
This is @ Dwlee
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Post Post #6404 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:03 pm

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In post 6402, Gamma Emerald wrote:I almost whipped your ass off the back of isekai mafia where for a long time I was pretending my flavor was Shiro
In post 6403, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6402, Gamma Emerald wrote:I almost whipped your ass off the back of isekai mafia where for a long time I was pretending my flavor was Shiro
This is @ Dwlee
I have no idea what these words mean together
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #6405 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:03 pm

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In post 6395, Toogeloo wrote:All of my linkshells can be released... So many bookmarked topics lol.

Did town just not have a vigilante?

dwlee conf-towned himself to me last night, which in turn made me realize who H1/H2 was and I wouldn't peg their role to be a vigilante.
But didn’t STD flip rb town?
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Post Post #6406 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:04 pm

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Choice quotes.
Thanks Ydrasse, I have released them on my own.
In post 25, Bell wrote:Should I just pretend I’ve subtly been implying I’m a PR when I have done no such thing because it’ll make me look better in hindsight?
In post 26, Bell wrote:Yes, that was my plan all along.
In post 27, Bell wrote:Now how do I not get killed when I tell them I’m a Vt.
I liked House's role a lot Gif.
Besides that one, I'm not sure how I felt about the rest.
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Post Post #6407 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:04 pm

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Town had no vig.

Mastina’s role was actually 1-shot raid leader (as you saw) and 1-shot modified universal backup that let her grab a 1-shot of dead town role. Mastina-third-party-theory was interesting to read.

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Post Post #6408 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:05 pm

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In post 6407, GuyInFreezer wrote:Town had no vig.

Mastina’s role was actually 1-shot raid leader (as you saw) and 1-shot modified universal backup that let her grab a 1-shot of dead town role. Mastina-third-party-theory was interesting to read.

I’ll post the rest of the role PMs tomorrow.
Then why did Bears have an X shot bp?
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Post Post #6409 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:06 pm

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Also the informed towns had the “will know if this flavor dies” because of the existence of janitor. I didn’t want scum to janitor the informed role and “confirm” themselves as town.
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Post Post #6410 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:06 pm

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In post 6371, GuyInFreezer wrote:1. How did the raid mechanic feel? What could've been done to make the mechanic better? 2. How did the raid rewards feel? Were they felt useful?
The raid mechanic was pretty neat, but a narrow pool of raids (literally only three, repeating) and their consistent order (no randomness to them), not to mention having my role which allowed for auto-success of basically half the raids in the game via the stacking bonus, all meant that raids felt a little under-developed as a mechanic. It could've been a lot more.
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Post Post #6411 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:06 pm

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In post 6377, tictac wrote:OH YEAH!!
I RULE SO MUCH!!

GG folks!
I had the solve in last night's linkshell as well. I posted all my thoughts for dwlee to repost in case I died last night. I broke down all the flipped scum and cross referenced the name drops and how they handled their scum mates.

It couldn't be anyone but Gamma/Nancy lol.

@Nancy, Mandel's action was a day action and didn't Roleblock the creation of the linkshell.
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Post Post #6412 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:07 pm

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In post 6408, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 6407, GuyInFreezer wrote:Town had no vig.

Mastina’s role was actually 1-shot raid leader (as you saw) and 1-shot modified universal backup that let her grab a 1-shot of dead town role. Mastina-third-party-theory was interesting to read.

I’ll post the rest of the role PMs tomorrow.
Then why did Bears have an X shot bp?
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Post Post #6413 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:07 pm

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i'm also a little steamed, very lightly, that the night after i die there wasn't a massclaim >:V i wanted one + i wanted them to pay attention to MB
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Post Post #6414 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:09 pm

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(Btw I also think that the game is a little bit townsided, even given the strong scum roles due to my role in combination with the cop and doctor and commuter and so on and so forth. My role makes all of them stronger and have redundancies when paired with raids. I don't think it's HUGELY unbalanced because the scum roles ARE pretty strong, but I'd say it's closer to like...55-57.5:42.5-45 town:scum here. Granted, town won by play, but I do think that the town roles' synergies were underestimated in review even if we didn't get to optimize the usage of said role synergies.)
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Post Post #6415 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:09 pm

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In post 6409, GuyInFreezer wrote:Also the informed towns had the “will know if this flavor dies” because of the existence of janitor. I didn’t want scum to janitor the informed role and “confirm” themselves as town.
In a 21 player game, it felt like lucky happenstance that they just happened to janitor one of the two of them.
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Post Post #6416 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:10 pm

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In post 6408, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 6407, GuyInFreezer wrote:Town had no vig.

Mastina’s role was actually 1-shot raid leader (as you saw) and 1-shot modified universal backup that let her grab a 1-shot of dead town role. Mastina-third-party-theory was interesting to read.

I’ll post the rest of the role PMs tomorrow.
Then why did Bears have an X shot bp?
I wanted scum to have 1-shot of some sort that can be claimed.
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Post Post #6417 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:12 pm

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In post 6409, GuyInFreezer wrote:Also the informed towns had the “will know if this flavor dies” because of the existence of janitor. I didn’t want scum to janitor the informed role and “confirm” themselves as town.
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Post Post #6418 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:13 pm

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I think the detriment for scum was that they had too many people they needed to kill since there were obvious PRs that needed to be taken out, and still had to get past the bulletproofs and what not. Like, I think almost every kill they made had to be that kill, (except I think they erred killing RC over tictac, even though they didn't know mastina was about to clear RC).
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Post Post #6419 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:14 pm

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Scum probably could have used a 1-shot extra kill maybe, I'm not sure though.
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Post Post #6420 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:15 pm

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In post 6410, mastina wrote:
In post 6371, GuyInFreezer wrote:1. How did the raid mechanic feel? What could've been done to make the mechanic better? 2. How did the raid rewards feel? Were they felt useful?
The raid mechanic was pretty neat, but a narrow pool of raids (literally only three, repeating) and their consistent order (no randomness to them), not to mention having my role which allowed for auto-success of basically half the raids in the game via the stacking bonus, all meant that raids felt a little under-developed as a mechanic. It could've been a lot more.
Narrow pool of three Primals was because the game was based on 2.0 content which only had those three Primals. And Ultima weapon was a scum role. I should’ve done the content up to at least 2.5 to give more primal choices but the patch quests kinda overlaps and foreshadows Heavensward (expansion) so I didn’t. If I did though, Moenbryda definitely would’ve been a scum fakeclaim for lulz.

Raid mechanic was kinda experimental. My personal regret is that I should’ve made it so that it’s not just first-come-first-serve. I wanted to emulate party finder in game so I did it like that but in retrospect it kinda sucked.
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Post Post #6421 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:16 pm

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In post 6417, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 6409, GuyInFreezer wrote:Also the informed towns had the “will know if this flavor dies” because of the existence of janitor. I didn’t want scum to janitor the informed role and “confirm” themselves as town.
:igmeou:
I mean I saw what happened in Magical Girls UPick I wasn’t gonna let that happen again :P
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Post Post #6422 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:16 pm

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True this, there was almost no incentive to shove off once you jumped in to a raid.

Just like real life.
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Post Post #6423 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:18 pm

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I want to apologize to the scum team for my extensive flavor knowledge :nerd: ...
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Post Post #6424 (ISO) » Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:21 pm

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In post 6414, mastina wrote:(Btw I also think that the game is a little bit townsided, even given the strong scum roles due to my role in combination with the cop and doctor and commuter and so on and so forth. My role makes all of them stronger and have redundancies when paired with raids. I don't think it's HUGELY unbalanced because the scum roles ARE pretty strong, but I'd say it's closer to like...55-57.5:42.5-45 town:scum here. Granted, town won by play, but I do think that the town roles' synergies were underestimated in review even if we didn't get to optimize the usage of said role synergies.)
This makes me feel better but to win as scum, you have to be both really good at mech and have a coordinated team to sign up for the raids, plus the flavour thing, as was poihted out, scum didn’t have very impressive fake claims. We actually started out as scum bg and cakez transferred rb to Wheme and we got it from him. An evolving strongman would have been much better because being forced to kill Cheeky because of guaranteed sucess bp raid, was the beginning of the end for us.

Great cop check Ydrasse. This is the second game you correctly nailed scum.
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