Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:31 pm
if im wrong on one, it's probably tene.
Town/Not touching this- Enchant, Galron, tenebrousluminary, MathBlade
Almost there: Save The Dragons, Nero Cain
Town but with more paranoia: April Ludgate, fireisredsir
There are some things I like, but not enough: Frogsterking, Scorpious, Titus, Eyes without a face, Cape90
Scum: VP Baltar
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Save The Dragons
I worry about having Save The Dragons too high on my readslist, but honestly in this gamestate I worry about calling anyone town (for e.g. it took a lot for me to keep tene in the top townread spot) and so I need to make calls here and there. Part of this is based on a small degree of familiarity with Save The Dragons as a person. The light-hearted slightly troll-y vibe to a lot of his posts matches what I expect from him, and the relaxed feel of a lot of these posts I think fits more with town than scum.
Examples are 2963, 3986, 4681/4687, 4795.
2901 comes across as genuinely annoyed at having been accused of not doing anything, but there's also a lack of guilty conscience there. I think scum "caught for the wrong reasons" respond differently here.
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Nero Cain
I would probably have to re-think this in the case of a VP-town flip, but the stubborn and persistent suspicion of VP feels town. It's not particularly performative, for example, and even VP can't seem to decide whether it's scum or "bad town". The more recent "who has killed more town huh!?!?!" is the sort of nonsense that I wouldn't really expect scum to think of, because no one's going to take that seriously, but I can definitely relate to an underlying frustration at town deaths that might have been avoided if VP-scum had been eliminated earlier.
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April Ludgate
A bit of a confusing slot for me. I found Ari's obstinence in regards to HEM to be quite town, and even though the Day 2 play was annoying, it had a weird confidence to it that I guess April-scum could probably fake, but definitely had the vibe of a townie over-estimating their own reads. The "woe is me" routine Day 3 obviously felt excessive and over-the-top, but in some ways I kind of believe 4980. It feels pretty predictable that this town would
not
appreciate April leading them to a miselim and then talking about how they're going to be eliminated. I don't think April-scum would see that as realistic town play? I feel it would be so much easier as scum to just get on with it, without the antics? The antics just look bad! Why do that? The contradiction between that and saying that they "don't regret the Malcolm wagon" in 5934 feels more like town processing events and their role in it than scum trying to endear themselves to the town.--
fireisredsir
I feel a bit terrible giving fire any side-eye because I honestly feel a bit betrayed every time they say I could be scum, and then there's the whiplash when they say they agree with my posts again! But for similar reasons to why fire probably thinks I could be scum, I must keep fire in mind as a possibility. Their posts are very reasonable. They're really thinking about what they're doing, in a probably town way. They're, if anything, leaning into the dv/fire connection that had been made by a few people earlier, and I like to think that's town, because I feel like the scum instinct would be to avoid that negative association. But it's the same reasonable-ness that gives me slight pause.
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Frogsterking
I like the point that was brought up about Frogsterking fearing that VP was trying to set them up as a scumbuddy, but idk, I think that's the ony thing I would think more about when a VP scum-flip actually happens. Other than that, I kind of feel the suspicion in them sounding a bit more wild at the beginning of the game than more recently, but I liked their response to VP where they explained how they were trying to improve their play. idk, it felt earnest. I also still feel that them bringing my name up based on a scumgame of mine was a bit unnecessary for scum, unless they're scum with VP and trying to get people to go for me while "bussing" VP but even then the argument is not very effectively delivered so it feels like town? idk I think Frogster would be in the higher tier if not for the VP-buddy theory.
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Scorpious
I actually kind of liked tene's townrad on scorpious and I don't think they're particularly scummy in any way, just... there's not much there that makes me go "oh yes that's town!". sorry I don't have more to say here, maybe later.
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Titus
I think the most town thing about Titus to me is the way that they've interacted with MathBlade and tried to work with him. This is also not the Titus-scum play that I'm used to, but I also think Titus' mafia play has evolved since when I played with them more. What Titus does with their read on me will be telling for me, I think.
Eyes without a face
I had an earlier weak townread in 866. MathBlade's point about 3719 probably not coming from scum in a winning position, also resonated with me. But I can't help but wonder if the OUTRAGE throughout the thread is even real. The sheer opposition to the VP wagon (e.g. 6336) seems quite out-of-proportion with Eyes' townread, particularly given the lack of attempt to explain when given the chance in 5924.
Cape90
There are no specific posts that stand out to me on a skim through the ISO. I think it's a classic case of an overall townie "vibe". There's a relaxed sassiness to their posts (yes I realise I've used this line before), and an easy sense of humour. There are also game-solving posts. There's a bit more complaining about MathBlade than I'd like to see, because I feel like that's just the cool thing to do and holds Mathblade responsible for miselims when that's not really fair. But then I like the swerve off Nero to April and not feeling the need to focus in the neighbourhood, because I feel like Cape90 would figure that that's what they'd be expected to do as town.