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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:44 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 6422, Gloria Cleary wrote:What makes you think one even exists? Who specifically are you FOSsing?

That's how scum win in this game so I would expect them to be trying to get in.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:45 pm
by MURDERCAT
In post 6423, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 6420, MURDERCAT wrote:No reaction to shelly being scum Pooky?
misrep
So you assumed she was scum pre pass? Fair enough

Does that not shake up your read on the game at least a bit though?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:46 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I didn't assume she was scum - I thought she was town.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:47 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 6416, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 6414, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:If scum are in the town bloc deep enough even the best townplay and best run of luck cannot win the game; that is the point.
If they were I don't think we'd have got scum twice in a row
I know that LLD scrolled Theta and greatly influenced Vax to scroll Hopkirk. Ironically his initial HURT was on Shelley but why was Toog scrolled? I haven’t read that part of the game due to being V/LA.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:49 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 6425, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 6422, Gloria Cleary wrote:What makes you think one even exists? Who specifically are you FOSsing?

That's how scum win in this game so I would expect them to be trying to get in.
Who do you think that is and are you planning to answer my Noraa question?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:49 pm
by MURDERCAT
In post 6427, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I didn't assume she was scum - I thought she was town.
I meant specifically when you said that shelly was trolling,I assume you are saying your reaction was back then? If not I'm missing what the "misrep" is

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:51 pm
by MURDERCAT
In post 6428, Gloria Cleary wrote:why was Toog scrolled
Hopkirk and I though they had a decent shot of being scum and most players agreed it was a town led wagon. They then also self voted.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:54 pm
by MURDERCAT
I need people who are town reading Pooky to seriously consider his associations for me by the way. We are at the point of the game where we don't need to read his tone, just look at his subtle defense of shelly

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:56 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 6379, MURDERCAT wrote:I'd like to enter for the record

Fred/Shelly/Goofball/Flea/Titus

Perhaps Pooky is in there instead? Mostly anyone who voted UNO

Pedit :P
Don’t you mean pushed Owno? Pooky hard defended both Owno and Shelley. It would be wild if it is Flea, since she was also in Fred’s hitlist.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:59 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 6432, MURDERCAT wrote:I need people who are town reading Pooky to seriously consider his associations for me by the way. We are at the point of the game where we don't need to read his tone, just look at his subtle defense of shelly
But I also defended her and I’m town. I lean towards him being a Shelley pocket. When most of the playerlist thinks your scum, it’s very easy to get pocketed, no?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:00 pm
by MUSHSHAGANA
I think Pooky is right, and that is PRECISELY what I'm aiming for. In the process I'm aiming to create a dozen or so strong reads that town can use to create an absolute game winning POE -- "line up and catch your curses here folks, fresh curses, hot off the tongues of blasphemers" sorta deal, so that we can win no matter who we hit or in what order. Ideally, it'll be something that trundles along merrily even if the hard-townbloc gets picked off. In the best case scenario I want to also identify the top 4 most likely red targets and have town hit there first, so we can hit S->T->S twice in a row and scum learn to fear me in mountainous setups.

In the meantime, Pooky owes me a towncase on Tayl0r. No, I will not accept flattery. I still can't read because MURDERCAT is so willing to leave me illiterate.

PEDIT: Toog was scrolled because of time pressure, being pretty middle of the road till that point, and lack of any other viable target. Pretty much /everyone/ agreed that slot was green after the wagon got rolling, but most also agreed that building a different wagon was unlikely to happen in 30 hours with so many lurkers.

Day 1 should be super instructive now in general. Mega-scummy Zdenek was being defended by Shelly, which means even bus-happy Shelly was aware that scum can't afford to sacrifice too many people too quickly. Fred was insanely scummy, and she had to scumread Fred despite townreading Zdenek, but she tried to derail. That does make me wonder who else Shelly defended or tried to derail scumreads on during Day 1? Anyone? Anyone?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:02 pm
by MURDERCAT
Pooky probably

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:04 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 6432, MURDERCAT wrote:I need people who are town reading Pooky to seriously consider his associations for me by the way. We are at the point of the game where we don't need to read his tone, just look at his subtle defense of shelly
Pooky is one of those players who can be correctly read off tone but I still want an answer from him to my Noraa question.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:06 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I don't believe Noraa is IC level cleared

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:09 pm
by MUSHSHAGANA
Pooky, now you have double homework. I want a Noraa scumcase AND a Tayl0r towncase.

HURT: Pooky

(Don't think I've forgotten you, Fidget.)

See you in the morning!

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:09 pm
by MURDERCAT
In post 6438, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I don't believe Noraa is IC level cleared
Can someone who is town reading Pooky explain this to me? Pooky isn't dumb so why does he have a read this bad? Could it be that there isn't a path to victory that doesn't involve breaking up the town block and Noraa is the perceived weakest link?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:11 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
lol if I was scum my reads would be a lot better

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:12 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I didn't say Noraa was scum, I said I don't have her at IC-level-clear

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:14 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 6439, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Pooky, now you have double homework. I want a Noraa scumcase AND a Tayl0r towncase.

HURT: Pooky

(Don't think I've forgotten you, Fidget.)

See you in the morning!
do you expect this to like scare me or something? I've already changed my curse into being stuck in a honey tree.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:14 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 1385, shellyc wrote:
In post 1383, Hopkirk wrote:A decent part of my Zdenek townread, looking to be one of my spicier reads atm, is that blatantly bad 'we should do this strategy' style posts come from newbtown from a good place (which I get in the tone of their follow ups to me in regard to it), not newbscum trying to fake content.
ehhhh

but the easiest way of fake content is a mech oriented approach

also this feels like a game which I can solve through PoE
murder/mush/Taylor/fidget/hopkirk
these are town slots
@Mush

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:15 pm
by MURDERCAT
I don't know how you can think that based on the interactions with Fred and Shelly. You think Fred and Shelly are trying to cast doubt on the deep wolf in the town block?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:16 pm
by MURDERCAT
Unless you can explain that, Noraa is town full stop

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:16 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 6438, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I don't believe Noraa is IC level cleared
Based on? Fred scrolled LLD who had her as her top sr. Do you seriously think scum!Shelley would hardbus her?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:19 pm
by MURDERCAT
I expect an apology from everyone who said my reads are bad when it turns out I nailed 3/5 on D1

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:20 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 6446, MURDERCAT wrote:Unless you can explain that, Noraa is town full stop
She’s confitown because of Fred scrolling LLD and now Shelley trying to yeet her D1.