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In post 6416, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 2187, Datisi wrote:Menalque, PookyTheMagicalBear, Cat Scratch Fever, Cephrir - group 2 bomb experts
VP Baltar - group 2 bomb defuser

Part of the reason I can't ever feel truly good about a Pooky townread is this

why would scum!VPB put himself in a hood with four townies one of whom has been scumreading and voting him all day

it just seems like it makes much more sense in the world where Pooky is scum and can decide to either:

1. blow up VPB and reap towncred for it all game
or
2. if consensus seems like they want to defuse, roll with consensus to make sure his buddy lives and gets a defuse

he used the wifom of "why would I give you a gun to shoot me" to make me re-evaluate on him.

he knew that if he didn't make me flip my read I would just hardpush him on D2 so he had to do something.

It was a gambit and it worked.

In post 6423, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I am not good at reading Enchant because Enchant doesn't really care and it's very hard for me to read intentionality of people who don't care.

Like even now he is saying he wants to eliminate me but he doesn't suspect me.??

that's just how he plays the game because he has a policy of not caring very much.

I guess I would like to be more like him and care less.

It's not that i don't care, problem is i don't know.

I mostly want to listen to ded Manal. My picks are usually wrong. So basically, we punching as well as random.

Enchant I've seen you work things out before. And regardless, how are you going to get better at it without even attempting?

I reevaluated on Mena, Andre, GL, Dwlee, VP Baltar.
I’ve reversed myself more this game than average for me.

I’ve tried the engage route before with Pooky scum and it didn’t work out for me.
Autopilot time.

I would rather miselim Pooky now than end game.

The case against me is scummy because it’s largely focused on not only making sure I die, but making sure that my read of them dies with me. Name of the game being surviving one day at a time. *points at pooky’s post rate and guilt tripping to try to get people to change their minds on him like it matters or that we don’t have space for fuck ups* reminder that multiple people announced V/LA into Mother’s Day and he’s playing on your empathy and sense of fairness. Note that I am a ridiculously easy read. Pooky misreading me instead of the other way around is significantly less likely. Though, I know he gets pissed when I say that. But it’s true.

Pooky can miselim enchant whenever. I’m the hurdle here. I’m not changing my
Mind so I have to go now and then he can act confused later.

I guess he could’ve shot me. But I have no idea what the scum team is doing there.as said before, I’d have been shooting every chance I had.

What even were cephrir’s reads this game.

I have to go to work and I would really appreciate Pooky dying soon. I think you’ve heard him out. You can dead sheep him.

I’ve been playing this game forever and I’ve always tried and my accuracy hasn’t improved a wink, lol.

vote count 8.03

• with
  7
  votes in play, it takes
  4
  to make a decision.
  
• day 8 ends in
  (expired on 2022-05-14 20:45:00)
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• 2
  players who have the most nominations will be bomb experts on n8.

execution:

PookyTheMagicalBear [2]:

Dwlee99, Bell

Enchant [1]:

Andante

not voting [4]:

GuiltyLion, Cat Scratch Fever, Enchant, PookyTheMagicalBear

bomb expert nominations:

Dwlee99 [2]:

Enchant, GuiltyLion

Cat Scratch Fever [2]:

Enchant, GuiltyLion

GuiltyLion [1]:

Dwlee99

not nominating [4]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, Andante, Cat Scratch Fever, Bell

eligible to be nominated:

PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion, Dwlee99, Cat Scratch Fever

ineligible to be nominated:

Bell, Andante, Enchant

mod notes:

• the vote counter is acting weird and i'm counting votes by hand, let me know if i make any mistakes.

VOTE: Pooky
sure

that's e-1, and all of this "ok we can do this but pooky must be next" like yeah, also n1 I was 1000% expecting pooky to blow up VP, and surprise... didn't happen.. kinda sus

No longer feeling like Enchant is scum?

I mean I don't tr enchanrt, looks like yall only want pooky, so whatever

I have 2 finals tomorrow then 1 thursday, then I'm done being super busy irl

oof exams, good luck!

thanks!! sorry I've been so useless lately yall just been highly distracted

dont deadsheep me tomm

blow up whoever gets nominated because that helps narrow poe

try to care tomm gl

UNVOTE:
ehhhh I haven't read a lot, we're not chilling on e1

In post 6260, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Maybe you all think I'm wrong about Bell.

Talk to me - tell me where I'm wrong. Tell me I'm wrong about how the math works out. Tell me why you townread him. Tell me what you're actually thinking about this game.

It sounds like Spring Fling was an unusually good game for Bell (no offense intended - this is kind of straight from Bell anyway), so I don't think it's that fair to scumread Bell for having bad reads.

Also I do think Bell has a towny tone, which is maybe "subjective as hell," but I think my metareads tend to be pretty good and I focus mostly on tone >_<

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The math stuff looks right about scum not needing to kill GuiltyLion (under the assumption that they can NK both tonight and tomorrow night) - but can't the same argument be applied to scum!Enchant or scum!Andante?

Andante when you get back, can you explain how you went from dwlee is scum at the end of day 4 to VPB is scum at the beginning of day 5?

I also want to talk about Enchant. I think Enchant seems town by virtue of his D3-D5 posting; his progressions seem natural for the most part and his interactions seem very much not SvS with VP, but I need feedback from people. I can type up a more coherent towncase if that'll help people to engage, but here are some quotes:

In post 6133, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:

Spoiler: Enchant very early D3

In post 2751, Enchant wrote:What 4 defuse wincon?

In post 2752, Enchant wrote:I just noticed.

Bruh.

In post 2755, Enchant wrote:Yeah i just read modpost.

Pretty boring.

VOTE: VP

I am sorry.

Reading day 3, I don't really feel like Enchant is scum here.

There's this and some D4 posts


Doesn't seem SvS with VP


Then Enchant dropped his scumread on VP from day 3 and sussed dwlee/strange day 4, which looks bad until you remember Mena did the same thing. And the spoilered post above maybe illustrates why his read changed.

In post 4490, Enchant wrote:Okay VP momentally lost some points for me.

Some reassessment here after VP came into D5 avoiding the dwlee 1v1 (Enchant also unvoted dwlee for a hot second)

In post 4755, Enchant wrote:

In post 4752, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 4749, Enchant wrote:If scum can blow up everything, why they won't do it AT FIRST NIGHT FOR 4 MISELIMS?

I doubt it would be unlimited. That would be broken

How to ez win:
1. Force atleast one group of clear town experts on first day. Not really hard, just "refuse" to participate.
2. Make someone you dislike defuser.
3. Explode them.
4. Wow chain of 4 elims+5 blowed up.

And there's literally NO reason to make this ability "Expect for first night" or other shit. It's more easier for this ability to not exist.

also this post is just weird from scum? like it's too prescient, scum would probably feel more self-aware than to do something like this.