In post 6472, Taly wrote:I'm so excited, I've never had a scumteam do such a collaborative effort to associative-tell my slot.
these kind of things usually happen inadvertently, if that was actually the intention. if yr town they just never felt the ability to push on you and we're leveling ourselves because we can't find where the bus was
- from the start he said i was the person he wanted to save
- he wanted titus to die
- he thought the best case would be for all of us to die but we didn't have that option because of the mechanics; said everyone who was suspicious to the heaven-people were in hell for a reason and that it'd be best if we all died to find out if there were deepwolves at all
- thought titus and ulyana were scum because they were trying hard to find a way to survive through the phase (i don't think titus was trying hard to tbh, ulyana was). he thought suspicious scum had to do anything they could to live especially if 2/2 were in hell, but sus town dying wasn't as bad
- spent time interacting with ulyana asking who she thought was scum in the townblock, that he saw no reason not to discount u/titus as a team,
- said a no save was very scum motivated (titus), that it wasn't ever pro-town and the odds were at least 1 scum were in hell
- after titus's turn was skipped, turned a bit more on ulyana saying that ulyana was forced to argue for own survival
- called ulyana combative and me very towny after ulyana and i had like an hour long back and forth where we both ended up super upset
- gave his thoughts on the heaven people after i asked (thought it was gooey/peta as scum if scum in heaven)
and then he sacrificed for me
ulyana's thoughts are a lot More and a lot more winding hard to summarize but i will try
the red flip was a massive massive weight off my shoulders
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:24 am
by Ydrasse
also it's harder for me to talk about ulyana because i was very very frustrated with her for a lot of the pt because i felt like she was... just saying she knew she was town, that everyone should see it sort of thing, and it was really frustrating for me because i wasn't... like. there was some disconnect between us. when we tried to talk i would ask like, what have you done that's towny, how have you helped to push out scum, etc, because i wanted to see who between the two of us should go up because we /both/ couldn't, but then it would pander out and then i got kind of nasty with er honestly and i still feel really bad about it because at a certain point i was just going like "i'm town too don't you see i'm town i am saying i am town, so believe in me okay just believe i'm town" which... yeah.
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:25 am
by Taly
one more post before i exit
In post 6466, Gammagooey wrote:@Ydrasse - I'm most interested in Cakez thoughts from Hell, also a very condensed version of Ulyana thoughts from Hell
Honestly wouldn't mind just ignoring the current event for like 2 days and everyone just going over who they think out of who's left is most likely scum and why
@Taly - I actually did see the Saber+Taly scumteam memeing on my re-read and that was one of the bigger things that stuck in my mind in your favor even though I think it's a silly thing to focus on
also saber joke-scumclaimed with you first, you just rolled with the punches
Yeah, really wanted to see just how hard the pocket attempt would be.
Taly wrote:i perpetuated the T/S Cakez/Ulya narrative.
i allowed you the power to potentially decide my fate.
I don't remember the Cakez/Ulya thing being noticeable to the majority of the game but maybe it was before I replaced in or just buried in an avalanche of other posting. I'll go look for it later today
This was at it's pivotal moment in the crossing, when you rep'ed in.
In post 6466, Gammagooey wrote:woo woo deciding your fate is the same dumb WIFOM that someone argued Firebringer was town for (he's not pushing super hard to live he must be town wowwww)
the red flip was a massive massive weight off my shoulders
*hugs*
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:25 am
by Ydrasse
also i'm sorry for defending hq as strongly as i did but i really, truly didn't want to think that someone would do something like that as scum and that those feelings and posts were just really upset town, same with saber getting upset and leaving at the first sign of pressure/pushback from someone, it didn't make sense to me for people to have those reactions
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:27 am
by Morning Tweet
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:28 am
by Taly
In post 6478, Ydrasse wrote:also it's harder for me to talk about ulyana because i was very very frustrated with her for a lot of the pt because i felt like she was... just saying she knew she was town, that everyone should see it sort of thing, and it was really frustrating for me because i wasn't... like. there was some disconnect between us. when we tried to talk i would ask like, what have you done that's towny, how have you helped to push out scum, etc, because i wanted to see who between the two of us should go up because we /both/ couldn't, but then it would pander out and then i got kind of nasty with er honestly and i still feel really bad about it because at a certain point i was just going like "i'm town too don't you see i'm town i am saying i am town, so believe in me okay just believe i'm town" which... yeah.
This highlights the mentality I perceived from her and why I had such a hard time completely resolving her slot.
Ydrasse wrote:also i'm sorry for defending hq as strongly as i did but i really, truly didn't want to think that someone would do something like that as scum and that those feelings and posts were just really upset town, same with saber getting upset and leaving at the first sign of pressure/pushback from someone, it didn't make sense to me for people to have those reactions
You made a mistake I made with the
HQ
slot in another game I won't mention to protect their alt.
And that is reasonable with
Saber
tilting out too
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:29 am
by Ydrasse
i know who her alt is :/ i just... like. i don't get it, i don't understand getting that upset with someone as /scum/ because like, why, people are right when they push you so why are you that upset?
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:29 am
by Taly
I feel that.
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:30 am
by petapan
In post 4423, skitter30 wrote:i'm feeling the best abt gammaemerald ydra and dwlee presently, and they definitely should cross
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:30 am
by Ydrasse
idk i just feel like my game has been really bad this game and even scum were defending me so like, lol
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:31 am
by Taly
In post 6486, Ydrasse wrote:idk i just feel like my game has been really bad this game and even scum were defending me so like, lol
Scum have literally gone out of their way to pocket me lmfao I get you here.
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:31 am
by Taly
oh wait i have a life outside of mafia, bye
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:33 am
by petapan
In post 6480, Ydrasse wrote:also i'm sorry for defending hq as strongly as i did but i really, truly didn't want to think that someone would do something like that as scum and that those feelings and posts were just really upset town, same with saber getting upset and leaving at the first sign of pressure/pushback from someone, it didn't make sense to me for people to have those reactions
it's fine i do not blame you
there's just certain hard lessons about the nature of the game
and i have known there are certain players who will go unnamed, that have used that sort of thing to their advantage as scum
and so i just had to tune it out, it being invoked at all made me basically want to policy kill
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:33 am
by petapan
thinking about this game makes me feel dizzy
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:37 am
by petapan
In post 6486, Ydrasse wrote:idk i just feel like my game has been really bad this game and even scum were defending me so like, lol
if you're town i think you were fine, i think it's been a very tricky game for most people
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:41 am
by petapan
is it bad form to say at this moment in time i think it could be gamma emerald? this is based on me looking at scum's treatment of him after day 1
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:42 am
by petapan
lol god prism will shit on me so hard if after all this time it's GE
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:43 am
by Taly
I think it's
Gammagooey
, first impression.
I don't know why
Gemerald
literally rejects the offer to be a ruler.
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:44 am
by Taly
omg i need to unplug oof
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:50 am
by petapan
i just want to take a moment to say that it has been a very challenging game
but you're all wonderful people and it is a pleasure to be with you here at endgame
so let's take a deep breath and compose ourselves and do the best we can
Taly wrote:i perpetuated the T/S Cakez/Ulya narrative.
i allowed you the power to potentially decide my fate.
I don't remember the Cakez/Ulya thing being noticeable to the majority of the game but maybe it was before I replaced in or just buried in an avalanche of other posting. I'll go look for it later today
This was at it's pivotal moment in the crossing, when you rep'ed in.
Ok, found the posts now at least
How does it stand out from your other posting as noticeable or important to you? You wanted both of them to cross in the first 4 the day before that. When I came in and voted Ulyana to cross 4th it seemed like you dropped it in favor of just Cakez being scum (though I think you mentioned that was the way you were leaning a bit earlier as well).
You kept pushing Cakez but I had made it VERY clear at that point that I would do basically any combination of people crossing to get both of Tamora's/Firebringer left behind so I don't really get why you wouldn't reach out to me and nudge me into letting one of Almost/Toog live in exchange for Cakez not crossing at that point. I just don't see you acting at that time as though getting Cakez left behind is that important to you, especially compared to keeping in step with Gamma Emerald. Like I just don't get your mindset around all that really.
In post 6466, Gammagooey wrote:woo woo deciding your fate is the same dumb WIFOM that someone argued Firebringer was town for (he's not pushing super hard to live he must be town wowwww)
That's weak doll think I play like
Firebringer
?
I think the same reasoning applies. Does fighting for yourself to become ruler make you look townier there and improve your chances of ultimately winning the game if you're scum? you can argue it but I'd say that anyone who puts up a townie or two here looks worse, not better.
think I play like 
I feel that.
I like playing with you 4 so much.