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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:44 am

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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:50 am

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nuwen and cnh are basically conf town imho. theres no merit in reck/parama bussing cnh so hard from the start and still pushing it as hard as they were. and reck oscillated too much between buddying up to nuwen and getting offended everytime she disagreed with him. it doesnt look like distancing or scum interaction. lld has been pretty much a complete nonfactor in this game so i cant really comment on that and coyote was super quick to buddy up to recks numbers bullshit that amounted to kill the vig who has been wanting to shoot coyote all game. there was also his huge overreaction to grey ice day 3.

reading back lld actually tried to stop the reck lynch and instead lynch parama. coyote tried to subtly move the reck lynch back to cnh.



nuwen what are you thoughts on lld at this point?
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:14 am

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If anyone has doubts about us, read D1 where Reck threatened to shoot me.

Pretty sure RC is the last scum, but everyone should vote a different player to test this. VOTE: Nuwen
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:19 am

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Creatively-Named Hydra (4): Parama, RedCoyote, xRECKONERx, Katsuki

heres the very first real solid string of votes in the game. rc scum means that all 3 scum piled right onto that wagon from the start. also of concern is the back and forth parama and rc have had all game.
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:20 am

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it was already confirmed by fate that nuwen was mistaken. this is just a normal day with normal vote mechanics.
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:22 am

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i went into this day thinking coyote but im starting to lean lambda
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:25 am

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UNVOTE: That changes stuff.

I'ma read things and get back to this.
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:27 am

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How's a massclaim sound?
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:36 am

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woops, just iso'd lambdas postcrash stuff. i forgot how strongly she believed in parama scum and this post is town as fuck.

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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:38 am

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unvote
actually i want lld and coyote to both have a chance to post before we put him at L-1 and someone hammers zzz
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:42 pm

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Here's what's up: Nuwen is completely town, like I've said all game.

Kayne is town for his voting on the Reck wagon. I don't think he and reck could fake that, plus I did a little VCA, and I think Kayne is p. town.

The issue with CNH is that if he's scum, that means all 3 scum were on both the town wagons Day 1 and 2. Which would SORTA make sense with the idea that Reck and Parama were semi-bussing CNH for town cred, but not hard enough for him to die at their hand, so he stayed alive. Honestly, my gut tells me to kill CNH. Really and truly it does.

RC has a few things against him. First, VCA shows he has been on a grand total of 0 of the lynch wagons. None of them.
Next, he's been posting sloppily all game. Just not that great. Infact, a lot of his posting is over defensive and looks bad. I pegged him as town as a result of his connection to Nuwen and her reads. Looking back, he really didn't have much to do with that, he just kinda... was there.

Finally, Reck wanted CNH dead and he wanted Kanye dead. In all honesty, I know Reck is a busser. He's a strong busser, and in fact he won't hesitate to kill you if he think it'll benefit him. The issue is that neither CNH or Kanye were lynched when he pushed it. I don't know whether to think that this means that both CNH and Kanye are town, or if RC is town.

In my mind, we do have a mislynch. I won't lynch Kanye today, and probably won't lynch him tomorrow either. So lynching RC and CNH(if necessary) appeals to me.

tl;dr: I agree that RC is likely the last scum, but I can't shake this feeling that Reck and Parama were hyperbussing CNH to get town cred on one of them.

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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:00 pm

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kanyeknowsbest wrote:nuwen and cnh are basically conf town imho.


Finally with the posting. Scum-Kayne has very little incentive to call TWO things very town with only ONE NK between him and lylo. Pretty much requires a two-day buddy maneuver where he really tries to direct either me or CNH onto whichever of LLD/RC survive tomorrow. Neither RC nor LLD can vote CNH in a lylo because he's god damn scum-confirmed town. Asking for my read on LLD specifically just makes the spider senses prick up: I'm making it clear that I know what's up if that's what's going on. Night game wifom etc etc reread my god damn posts if I die you derp fucks.

Anyway, we're assuming Kanye is probably town because otherwise he's created a big, specific, and obvious hurdle for himself to win as scum.

LLD has a couple things to answer for before I decide on her role slot. I was obviously wrong about her defending the hydra as scum in my D1 read, which means I had to re-ISO. Feels town and useless and vanilla. Elected both Reck AND Parama onto the D1 wagon when Reck didn't need her vote at all (what's the benefit to tethering yourself to BOTH buddies when none or
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Highlights I want to hear more about include:

Lady Lambdadelta wrote:CNH is one of two things. Either:1) He's town and the scum have been saving him for an easy mislynch.
2) He's scum and the scum have been soft bussing him but redirecting the lynch at the last second to save him each day.

The second doesn't seem likely, especially with Reckoner being town in my eyes, and basically voting him every day.
If Reckoner was scum, CNH would be his partner.
100%. As a result, I'm reading CNH as town for the moment.

Lady Lambdadelta wrote:So basically, the disappearing act that is Kayne is probably scum. Just based off of PoE, and the fact that the lynches that have occured have swung towards town targets and away from him.


These are from the same post, and both of these players happen to be alive right now along with the people you called town in the same post (RC, Nuwen). LLD pretty much pigeonholes herself into a Kanye lynch today as scum, leaving guaranteed reversals as scum in a lylo tomorrow? I don't understand how she would think CNH is a plausible endgame-y lynch after a Parama flip.

Don't want to lynch it.

It's god damn RC.
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:57 am

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[quote="In post 660, Lady Lambdadelta"

In my mind, we do have a mislynch. I won't lynch Kanye today, and probably won't lynch him tomorrow either. So lynching RC and CNH(if necessary) appeals to me.
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So I've been thinking about this all day at work:

LLD has to be town, for similar reasons that Kanye is town right now. As scum she can't endgame any 2 of, CNH, Kanye as scum; kanye won't be voting for CNH, I won't be voting for CNH, I won't be voting for Kanye, Kanye won't be voting for me. The only workable angle here is killing one of me and CNH -> convince the survivor to lynch Kanye tomorrow. That's just not scum play.

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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:00 am

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Nuwen wrote:
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:

In my mind, we do have a mislynch. I won't lynch Kanye today, and probably won't lynch him tomorrow either. So lynching RC and CNH(if necessary) appeals to me.

So I've been thinking about this all day at work:

LLD has to be town, for similar reasons that Kanye is town right now. As scum she can't endgame any 2 of, CNH, Kanye as scum; kanye won't be voting for CNH, I won't be voting for CNH, I won't be voting for Kanye, Kanye won't be voting for me. The only workable angle here is killing one of me and CNH -> convince the survivor to lynch Kanye tomorrow. That's just not scum play.

I advocate a hammer for a kinda unexpected but pleasing 1-2-3 sweep.

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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:04 am

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So in other words, it's HAMMAHTIME?
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:25 am

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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:21 am

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yeah i agree. im just really not seeing any situation where its not coyote. i wanted to give him a chance to actually post before we hammer him but im rapidly caring less about that. ill probably just hammer when i get back in a few hours if he still hasnt posted.
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:30 am

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Actually, letting him talk may be a good idea. If he's town, he'll be useful for tomorrow, but if he's scum, it won't matter anyway.
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:52 am

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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:03 pm

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Ah, thought the day may have ended before I got a chance to talk again. So, let me guess, I'm being attacked for lurking again, hm? That's still the best we can do?
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:11 pm

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Yeah, kayne makes some pretty good points earlier. I'm not convinced it's not CNH unless there was some investigation on him or something. Have always felt pretty good about Nuwen (but I thought Reck was town so that shows what I know). Have we had a mass claim yet? I don't know, everytime I come to post in this godforsaken game it is closed up for the night. My gut says LLD because he has been absent from all the meaningful stuff in this game. Sure, that's a pot calling the kettle black statement, but I'm kind of a victim of circumstance here. I want to post in this game, but it's seemingly always locked when I am online. I simply do not have the capabilities to check this website as much as I used to. So, you know, I don't plan my life around when this game will be open.

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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:13 pm

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First off, who you calling "he"?

Secondly, Absent? I was the person who was pushing Parama for 3 straight days.

And look what he fliped? Yeah.

You're the one who has been on ZERO lynch wagons.

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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:14 pm

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Is there any reason for the CNH love other than the Parama and Reck flips? That could all be phony as far as I'm concerned.
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:18 pm

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Nuwen, you need to understand that Reck is a player who would almost assuredly bus an inferior partner.

So I mean, Reck/Parama/Nuwen makes zero sense.

Neither does Reck/Parama/Kanye, when you examine interactions.

RC makes sense since both Reck and Parama ignore the FUCK out of him.

CNH makes sense because Reck and Parama pushed HARD for his death.

I don't make a whole lot of sense as scum, because if I was trying to de-rail a scum!Reck lynch, why would I derail it onto Scum!Parama?

Honestly, if we lynch RC, he should flip scum. That last post voting me is just terrible.

Should he flip town, I'm confident that CNH is the last scum at that point.

And if it's you or Kanye then this game is already lost, really.

Someone should hammer RC at this point.
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:19 pm

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RedCoyote wrote:Is there any reason for the CNH love other than the Parama and Reck flips? That could all be phony as far as I'm concerned.


I've already expressed concern about a hardcore bus on CNH. Believe me, if you happen to flip town, which seems unlikely considering how you are now scrambling for a lynch, CNH will be my focus tomorrow.

But I mean, this post is almost a scumclaim, considering you're voting me but looking for an out of a CNH lynch.
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