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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:37 am
by callforjudgement
TeChNoWC wrote:Wondering what kind of ability would stop the third lynch though. I haven't witnessed anything like that before (kill instead of lynch ??) And because it was so specific (who attempts to kill someone who is about to be lynched) I could see the only benefit someone would get out of it is if they anticipated the lynchee was in fact a mime, and realised there would be such a big backlash as there was.

Kairyuu has claimed some sort of modified governor who gets a daykill if they stop a lynch; he stopped the lynch on izak (who was a mime), and killed a
different
mime with the daykill, causing all the mimes (including izak) to leave the game.

What happened with the red lynch?

A bunch of us decided he was town, either out of dislike of the wagon, or because he claimed VT and people thought that was a towntell from him. I think there's widespread agreement that he's town, but not agreement on why he's town.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:37 am
by Muffin Wednesday
/inb4Rhinoxsays"wtf"

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:38 am
by callforjudgement
TeChNoWC wrote:
callforjudgement wrote:UNVOTE: VOTE: Moneybags
Thanks Techno for drawing that to my attention. He's done nothing but push Milk for no obvious reason and buddy BBmolla, and I can't figure out the town motivation behind that.


Don't thank me, it was imaginalities scumhunting skills that drew my attention to it.

Though check out milk, this guy he is after. I swear they seem as scummy as each other, tell me what you think. Bussing maybe?


Milk doesn't seem to be putting much effort in, but isn't nearly as scummy as some of the other people who've been wagoned. He's just being lazy, AFAICT. (And trollhammering chesskid, which I imagine quite a few people on this site have wanted to do for a while.)

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:44 am
by TeChNoWC
Inclined to think Milk might be a better lynch. Moneybags might not be giving reasons and seems to just be picking on randoms that give an appearance of scumminess, and seems like a pretty big non-contributor (plus yeah, buddying with BB is a concern), but Milk is behaving the same way. Gonna check the guys milk is after, but I swear it seems like a bussing tactic. He seems uber convinced Money is scum, and I could think of nothing better for a scum to do at this stage than lynch one of his buddies so he gets chucked in the town pool and forgotten.

In regards to the redFF issue, I think he is town because I have played with him as scum, and his playstyle is quite different. He is contributing a lot more in this game, and actually scumhunting. As scum he just defended himself and took shots at others.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:48 am
by TeChNoWC
'uber convinced money is scum' meant to write milk. I hate it when two people in question start with the same letter, lol.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:55 am
by Rhinox
wtf..
just for you muffin *smooch*


no fucking way am I lynching tbone and not just because I'm in his town block but because he is ACTUALLY TRYING. Too many of you are playing like you think you're hot shit and filling the thread with crap. I take back what I said before about policy lynches there are about 5-10 of you I wish I could nuke right now.

vote bbmolla


looked at the top 3 wagons, this one looks the best. Fucking 62 post iso of fluff in less than 24 hours. No thank you. Please kindly be lynched now.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 2:02 am
by TeChNoWC
Rhinox wrote:wtf..
just for you muffin *smooch*


no fucking way am I lynching tbone and not just because I'm in his town block but because he is ACTUALLY TRYING. Too many of you are playing like you think you're hot shit and filling the thread with crap. I take back what I said before about policy lynches there are about 5-10 of you I wish I could nuke right now.

vote bbmolla


looked at the top 3 wagons, this one looks the best. Fucking 62 post iso of fluff in less than 24 hours. No thank you. Please kindly be lynched now.


Interested to hear who these 5-10 people are.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 2:28 am
by petapan
Rhinox wrote:no fucking way am I lynching tbone and not just because I'm in his town block but because he is ACTUALLY TRYING. Too many of you are playing like you think you're hot shit and filling the thread with crap. I take back what I said before about policy lynches there are about 5-10 of you I wish I could nuke right now.
no, he isn't. his posts are low-effort garbage inflated with things like useless lists to mask the lack of substance, hope this helps

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 2:33 am
by Muffin Wednesday
Muffin Wednesday wrote:/inb4Rhinoxsays"wtf"


Win.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 2:35 am
by Hoopla
petapan wrote:no, he isn't. his posts are low-effort garbage inflated with things like useless lists to mask the lack of substance, hope this helps


I agree the lists thing is garbage, but a lot of people present their reads in garbage ways. I think his attempts to foster a voting bloc is town motivated, even though I think that is also pointless right now (and not including the right people). Calling someone scum for those reasons is even lazier than you think T-Bone is being.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 2:38 am
by TeChNoWC
Hoopla wrote:
petapan wrote:no, he isn't. his posts are low-effort garbage inflated with things like useless lists to mask the lack of substance, hope this helps


I agree the lists thing is garbage, but a lot of people present their reads in garbage ways. I think his attempts to foster a voting bloc is town motivated, even though I think that is also pointless right now (and not including the right people). Calling someone scum for those reasons is even lazier than you think T-Bone is being.


Agreed. Let's get off this T-Bone bullshit OMGUSing already, unless someone has a reason why he might ACTUALLY be scum.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 2:45 am
by T-Bone
That was a nice call Kairyuu.

This Moneybags lynch is a good call. But are we now going to start policy lynching lurkers with our remaining lynches?

The BBmolla wagon keeps rising and dying, for those of you in support of that...why?

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 2:53 am
by callforjudgement
T-Bone wrote:That was a nice call Kairyuu.

This Moneybags lynch is a good call. But are we now going to start policy lynching lurkers with our remaining lynches?

The BBmolla wagon keeps rising and dying, for those of you in support of that...why?

The short answer on BBmolla is "look at his ISO", but that's a useless cliche.

Here's the evidence I went on to vote him, and to leave my vote on him a while longer:

callforjudgement wrote:
BBmolla wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: red

Just do this so we can move on

This is a bad vote justification. I know I'm voting redFF, but you're just lynching someone to move onto the next lynch?

callforjudgement wrote:@BBmolla: "This lynch is derp let's do it anyway so people stop doing it." wtf?


I'm not sure it's massively strong, but it's good enough for day 1.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 2:55 am
by TeChNoWC
T-Bone wrote:That was a nice call Kairyuu.

This Moneybags lynch is a good call. But are we now going to start policy lynching lurkers with our remaining lynches?

The BBmolla wagon keeps rising and dying, for those of you in support of that...why?


Wait, so are you supporting a moneybags lynch, or not? You kind of contradicted yourself.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I only voted for BB mainly as a random policy vote. He does seem scummy though, but BB always does, so I find him hard to read. Comments like 'anyone on my wagon is definitely scum' and 'I have an uber powerful role' are unlikely to escape a wagon. I would be ok with a BB lynch, but prefer Moneybags.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:02 am
by T-Bone
What I meant is that there are many players like Moneybags with low post counts and no content, and are we going to start lynching them all?

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:08 am
by TeChNoWC
T-Bone wrote:What I meant is that there are many players like Moneybags with low post counts and no content, and are we going to start lynching them all?


Is that what you want?

Easy answer for me is no. Moneybags has a wagon not just for a low vote count and limited content, but for scummy trolling of milk, sheeping BB (trusting him just because he has a mutual interest in killing milk??) and thus being a scummy fluffer.

If you have better scumleads, feel free to contribute. Moneybags isn't scum 101, but the best choice out of a bad batch.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:09 am
by Rhinox
TeChNoWC wrote:Interested to hear who these 5-10 people are.

I'll give you a hint: one of them posted right below you.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:12 am
by TeChNoWC
Rhinox wrote:
TeChNoWC wrote:Interested to hear who these 5-10 people are.

I'll give you a hint: one of them posted right below you.


Yourself?

I assume you are referring to peta.

I'm not getting why we need to talk in code though. A list of who and why would be helpful.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:30 am
by Rhinox
TeChNoWC wrote:
Rhinox wrote:
TeChNoWC wrote:Interested to hear who these 5-10 people are.

I'll give you a hint: one of them posted right below you.


Yourself?

I assume you are referring to peta.

I'm not getting why we need to talk in code though. A list of who and why would be helpful.


After a quick look back I think peta, luffy, and trevor are the big 3 because they're useless and arrogant. I think the game would be better off without them. I'd fill out the rest of my 5-10 nuke of death with players like bbmolla, money, milk, mattp (he's actually probably town but I'll accept this as collatoral damage - seriously, its not helpful to post THAT much).

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:35 am
by T-Bone
Here's the players with one post in the game, omitting Amrun because her one post has more content then everyone in the One-Line gallery, and I read her as town. I wish she'd post more...

Captain Corporal, Robotnick2, funkybike1, Ellibereth, sykedoc - all have 1 post.

If that's what you wanted there you go. CC just came in to vote Chesskid. Funkybike just confirmed his role. Elli just said "WTF". Robotnick just quoted Izak about hammering lynches. Sykedoc just confirmed.

Dramonic has two posts, one for a policy vote, one to ask how mimes lose.

From there it's about picking and choosing which players tried to add content, and which players continue to spam without content. So someone like Imaginality has 3 posts, but I think they are pretty good, as opposed to Sleepykrew's 3, which offer nothing, Moneybags at 8, which are crap, or Matt at 66 which are 98% crap.

Moneybags is as good of a vote as any.
Unvote, Vote: Moneybags


While that wagon is building slowly, we have one more lynch today. Perhaps we use this last lynch to take out someone who is scummy and posting a lot as opposed to another lurker. Who knows, maybe the night phase will allow some of those low posters to catch up and give some actual content Day 2.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:35 am
by TeChNoWC
Rhinox wrote:
TeChNoWC wrote:
Rhinox wrote:
TeChNoWC wrote:Interested to hear who these 5-10 people are.

I'll give you a hint: one of them posted right below you.


Yourself?

I assume you are referring to peta.

I'm not getting why we need to talk in code though. A list of who and why would be helpful.


After a quick look back I think peta, luffy, and trevor are the big 3 because they're useless and arrogant. I think the game would be better off without them. I'd fill out the rest of my 5-10 nuke of death with players like bbmolla, money, milk, mattp (he's actually probably town but I'll accept this as collatoral damage - seriously, its not helpful to post THAT much).


Are you sure your not just OMGUSing because Trevor voted you? I don't see how he is arrogant, just a non-contributor. Peta is arrogant, but that doesn't make him scummy. I don't have a definitive read on Luffy, but he is contributing. BB, Money Milk... Sounds fair enough to me, but why would you want to get rid of someone you have a town read on? That seems pretty scummy to me.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:43 am
by mykonian
Votecount


T-bone (5): mattp, theamatuer, Thetrollie, luffy, petapan
moneybags (4): imaginality, TechnoWC, callforjudgement, T-bone
bbmolla (3): Hoopla, muffin wednesday, Rhinox
uberninja (2): chevre, BBmolla
rhinox (2): dramonic, Trevor
RedFF (2): YYR, sleepykrew
elmo teh azn (1): zdenek
Milk (1): moneybags
Trevor (1): peregrinev
YYR (1): redFF
Luffy (1): uberninja
Spyrex (1): milk

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:45 am
by TeChNoWC
T-Bone wrote:Here's the players with one post in the game, omitting Amrun because her one post has more content then everyone in the One-Line gallery, and I read her as town. I wish she'd post more...

Captain Corporal, Robotnick2, funkybike1, Ellibereth, sykedoc - all have 1 post.

If that's what you wanted there you go. CC just came in to vote Chesskid. Funkybike just confirmed his role. Elli just said "WTF". Robotnick just quoted Izak about hammering lynches. Sykedoc just confirmed.

Dramonic has two posts, one for a policy vote, one to ask how mimes lose.

From there it's about picking and choosing which players tried to add content, and which players continue to spam without content. So someone like Imaginality has 3 posts, but I think they are pretty good, as opposed to Sleepykrew's 3, which offer nothing, Moneybags at 8, which are crap, or Matt at 66 which are 98% crap.

Moneybags is as good of a vote as any.
Unvote, Vote: Moneybags


While that wagon is building slowly, we have one more lynch today. Perhaps we use this last lynch to take out someone who is scummy and posting a lot as opposed to another lurker. Who knows, maybe the night phase will allow some of those low posters to catch up and give some actual content Day 2.


When you say 'crap' do you mean 'scummy' or just 'useless'? Obviously the two are often intertwined, but not always.

I'm hoping your wagon dies down, because I don't see how you are useless. You seem pretty good with reading the thread and you contribute, that's good enough for me to say 'why the fuck are we lynching T-Bone when there are actual scummy choices out there.' I already asked but I will ask again; anyone actually have a scumtell on T-Bone, or is his wagon just OMGUS bullshit?? I'm getting sick of this 'let's get rid of suspected townies that are crap at contributing' bullshit. It's plain scummy.

I'm not sure I agree that we can't lynch a non-contributor for our last lynch though. I think we shouldn't be categorising the archtype of who we should lynch like we are profiling a perfect candidate. Let's lynch someone who seems the most scummy.

Hoping to hear Moneybag's defence soon.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:52 am
by Rhinox
TeChNoWC wrote:Are you sure your not just OMGUSing because Trevor voted you? I don't see how he is arrogant, just a non-contributor. Peta is arrogant, but that doesn't make him scummy. I don't have a definitive read on Luffy, but he is contributing. BB, Money Milk... Sounds fair enough to me, but why would you want to get rid of someone you have a town read on? That seems pretty scummy to me.


meh you're probably right. I think I threw them all in a group because they all held similar viewpoints and/or were all posting at the same time, but looking back at isos, trevor and luffy don't seem as bad as I thought but peta can still diaf.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:58 am
by Fritzler
T-Bone, I would like to create a coalition of the willing with you to lynch the other 2-3 lynches we have (I don't know if the Izak lynch counts). Who do you think we should let in our coalition and why? We need 8 other members.

Is Mastermind of Sin in this game? He hasn't posted. If he had, I would nominate him to be part of the town death squad.