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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:07 pm
by Gammagooey
wait
hold on

how closely are you reading this game.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:07 pm
by MattP
Also I have a REALLY strong townread on myself for my D1 play and I think it's pathetic that Fate is pretending not to when he knows I was incredibly protown but hey let's all fucking play like dumbasses for easy mislynches. This game has been ridiculous with the push on UN and now on me and I'm not being snobby about my play, I know I am very obnoxiously obviously town when I am town and that I can't emulate my town play as scum. Fate having a scumread on me is a scumtell for me to him. It's sad that he feels he should pull reads out of his ass instead of focusing on scum. HEY WE CANT ALWAYS PLAY WELL SORRY FATESY WATESY I KNOW YOULL GET THIS LYNCH THROUGH BUT LET ME BREASTFEED YOU WITH MY POISONOUS MILK AND SCOUR YOUR REMAINS TOMORROW WHILE YOUR COOKED FLESH HANGS ON CLOTHING LINES LIKE BIG BEEF CARPETS

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:08 pm
by MattP
Chamber you asked a question or two that had a lot of thought process behind the questions I remember I promise

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:08 pm
by Gammagooey
oh you said it was a d1 reads list.
but

bluh. whatever, i'll read over it better, one sec.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:09 pm
by MattP
I'm kind of in this mode where I'm like, "oh well Fate's advocating my lynch" and I feel kind of "I don't give a fuck" about it because it's Fate and Fate does his shit and wins it and he'll get out of a lynch tomorrow and yadayada Idgaf he is scum and he will hammer my lynch to death no matter what I say so just I'll laugh the whole time

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:10 pm
by Gammagooey
like
why a day 1 reads list

why not just THESE FOUR PEOPLE. i mean i know you're not me and don't want to do things for shits and giggles all the time but why go back and get a day 1 reads list instead of just posting what you thought about shit now.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:12 pm
by MattP
Oh also a lot of my phrasing for why people are town is very peculiar and I don't think anyone can deny that I didn't write those things down after a lot of thought so unless I was pretend scumhunting D1 planning to post it as a guise when I came under suspicion you have to admit there was scumhunting that went into that so whatever

pedit: Because a lot of it clears a lot of people to me. It was my catchup thoughts about the game and I haven't written anything since. I can go through today and post new thoughts but I find that my thoughts from a first time fresh read of a game are my most accurate, which is why I like replacing into game. Once you're involved in a game your thoughts become muddled with bias. If you want less accurate reads I can cater.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:14 pm
by Gammagooey
i feel that your explanation is fair but not particularly alignment-revealing and I am very slightly saddened by it.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:16 pm
by Gammagooey
also i might actually ask for 'less accurate' reads in the future in some way so i'd be careful about offering that.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:16 pm
by MattP
Gammagooey wrote:i feel that your explanation is fair but not particularly alignment-revealing and I am very slightly saddened by it.

What alignment do you think I am?

Before you answer you should ISO my D1 play and compare it to my play in Catch 22. I have this heated, charged, forward tone as town that no matter how hard I try I can't copy it. When I try to I come off as very aggressive and close-minded in an off way not similar to my town play.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:19 pm
by MattP
D2 I've been very "silly" I'd say. Idk why I've been thinking a lot about my behavior today and I think it's due to the UN lynch which I just find ridiculous and I guess I'm mocking it, and also I just feel discouraged about my MoS read being wrong. As soon as Wyrd voted MoS I remember feeling a strong urge to abandon the wagon but I read it after the hammer.

I'll try to find something that will light a fire under me. I think I should have pushed harder on the Reck wagon but I didn't. I also should push harder on Wyrd because tonally he is shit and his scumread on me is sad.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:21 pm
by Gammagooey
man i literally just commented on how i am in more games at once ALL OF WHICH ARE IN DAY than I have ever been in before I am not going through lolmeta for shit right now.

guessing right now i'd say town but i also think that at least two of your big 4 reads are wrong (don't think reck and wyrd would be scum together and both be lurking garbage when they would have a DAMN good chance of winning by just controlling the game with screaming death, also have a gut-town read on glrok even though it's not strong) and i'm not actually sure where i'm going with this but OPINIONS.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:24 pm
by Glork
"Low-hanging fruit"?
I'm
going after low-hanging fruit?

Literally, out of six people who have voted for me and/or called me scum (MoS, UN, panzer, BBMolla, MattP, Wyrd), exactly two of them have provided
ANY
reasoning whatsoever.

MoS just called me scum and left it at that.

UN's "reasoning" amounts to "Glork is trying to confirm himself, which is scummy" and calling Glork scum a bunch of times and just telling people to wagon him.

Panzer has just called me scum and left it at that.

BBMolla voted me a couple of times but has yet to actually make a comment on anything I have said or done.

MattP just now has decided that I am on his scumlist, in a post where he literally didn't even
MENTION
me
IN A SINGLE FUCKING POST
until he gave his scumlist and just slapped me on it for funsies.

Wyrd has decided to douse the wagon with kerosene with awful reasons which I will get to momentarily.


AND I'M THE ONE
GOING AFTER
LOW-HANGING FRUIT?



Yeah.

Iiiiiii call fucking horse shit on that one. I *AM* the low-hanging fruit.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:25 pm
by MattP
My issue is that I haven't pinned anyone down as "OMG YOURE SCUM" except MoS and then I started networking off of MoS when that happened (When I called Kat scum)

I still think Kat is scum and at least one of Reck/Wyrd is scum


Glork is a little bit paranoia flakes about his confirmable claim which is bizarre because he just ousted himself as a PR when he didn't have much pressure on him so he just read like he was playing his cards impulsively.

I'd bet one of my townreads is wrong though

pedit: hehe

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:35 pm
by Glork
OKAY. NOW, WHY WYRD IS FULL OF SHIT AND NEEDS TO DIE POSTHASTE. ALSO, MORE ALL CAPS CLEARLY MAKE GAMES BETTER.


Wyrd wrote:Those two have scum in it. Confirmable role my fucking ass. If its not a mason or A friendly bullshit it might as well be trololomod2012.
I'll address this later, obviously, but remind me to quote this repeatedly later on.

Wyrd wrote:And look at his tone with UN. YOU'RE DISTANCING FROM THE MOS MISLYNCH YO

Or or or or or or OR
It's like I had a town read on MoS. MoS has acted like a complete arrogant, ignorant fuckwad in every game I've seen him in since I got back.

Except one.

TM: Closed Normal -- THE ONE FUCKING GAME I'VE SEEN HIM AS SCUM IN, WHERE HE LURKED AND ACTED FAIRLY REASONABLE FOR 90% OF THE GAME.

So MoS acts like an idiot (town tell: check), calls the people voting for him idiots (town tell: check), refuses to cooperate with anyone (town tell: check), flatly states that his claim will get people off of him (town tell: check), is completely unaware of the game state regarding the wagon on him (town tell: check (although to be fair, I don't know that anyone was until Axxle pointed out that he was lynched.)).



Wyrd wrote:I was handed an iPad! I'm as amazed as you are that my reads align with Fate's so cleanly. He's spot-on when he says Brandi = long play for a scum team bunkering down. Brandi fell into the UNLYNCHABLE category; scum didn't feel threatened by reads or potential power play from spoken reads. MATTP and GLORK fit the bill cleanly.

I'll bite, Nuwen.
1) Why do MattP and Glork fit the bill more than other players in the game?
2) What do you know about Glorkscum that makes you believe that he "bunkers down" as scum? (Hint: I will kill you an avalanche of meta if you don't draw this one out in lengthy, explicit detail.)

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:36 pm
by Glork
MattP wrote:My issue is that I haven't pinned anyone down as "OMG YOURE SCUM" except MoS and then I started networking off of MoS when that happened (When I called Kat scum)

I still think Kat is scum and at least one of Reck/Wyrd is scum


Glork is a little bit paranoia flakes about his confirmable claim which is bizarre because he just ousted himself as a PR when he didn't have much pressure on him so he just read like he was playing his cards impulsively.

I'd bet one of my townreads is wrong though

pedit: hehe
Uh. You do realize that MoS got lynched as town D1, right?

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:37 pm
by Glork
Oh oh oh oh, do you mean that's why your reads are so fluid right now?

Holy shit, word your posts more carefully.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:39 pm
by Glork
Glork wrote:
Wyrd wrote:I was handed an iPad! I'm as amazed as you are that my reads align with Fate's so cleanly. He's spot-on when he says Brandi = long play for a scum team bunkering down. Brandi fell into the UNLYNCHABLE category; scum didn't feel threatened by reads or potential power play from spoken reads. MATTP and GLORK fit the bill cleanly.

I'll bite, Nuwen.
1) Why do MattP and Glork fit the bill more than other players in the game?
2) What do you know about Glorkscum that makes you believe that he "bunkers down" as scum? (Hint: I will kill you an avalanche of meta if you don't draw this one out in lengthy, explicit detail.)

Also, I forgot to finish questioning.
3) What makes you believe that Glork, a self-described "barely-above-average" player -- which can be confirmed by my Team Mafia team's discussion, and the general opinions of people all over the site -- would have enough pull in choosing night kills to lead to him based off of your nightkill analysis?

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:42 pm
by Glork
^^^ that should read "barely-above-avreage scum player," but to be completely frank, my town play has been pretty average over the last few months, too.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:45 pm
by MattP
Ooo Glork is town

READS REEVALUATION TIME GOGOGO

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:46 pm
by Glork
Also, a question to both Nuwen and Fate, because I really feel like poking the bear:

If you're really convinced that I'm scum, and there are at least 4 other players who think I'm scum, why are you choosing to scattershot your votes here? Why didn't you follow MattP onto me and drag Reck onto the wagon? Don't you want me dead?

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:48 pm
by MattP
Glork, Wyrd is scum it's like fairly obv

Reck is useless or scum but since I value him as a player I'm gonna assume scum too

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:00 pm
by Glork
RECKONER:
For sextra credit, why do YOU think Fate chose to jump MattP instead of me? Do you remember... what was it, Square Enix III? When Fate thought I was scum for directing power roles and shit, and just jumped my wagon and wanted me dead there and then? Do you think FateTown wouldn't want to just get panzer, himself, you, UberNinja, and possibly MattP to run CHEEKY SCUMFUCK GLORK to L-2?

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:20 pm
by Wyrd
Glork wrote:Also, a question to both Nuwen and Fate, because I really feel like poking the bear:

If you're really convinced that I'm scum, and there are at least 4 other players who think I'm scum, why are you choosing to scattershot your votes here? Why didn't you follow MattP onto me and drag Reck onto the wagon? Don't you want me dead?


Follow MattP? The SCUMFUCKS that just called me scum after deflecting my argument with the talkingtotown tone of 'lolucant read me'

I thought you were smarter than this GLORK. Read between the fucking line, I REFERENCED YOUR FU CKING SOFTCLAIM OF CONFIRMABLE ND MY STNCE ON IT

THE FUCK WOULD I GO AFTER YOU AND YOUR BULLSEYE PAINTED ASS TODAY WHEN YOU BETTER BE DEAD SOON? GET THE FUCK OVER YOUR SELFABSORBED SELF, AND REALIZE THAT PARAGON BULLSHIT FROM YEARS AGO HAS AN EXPIRATION DATE

AND THts from skimming your shit posts I sure as hell wil dread reading them later

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:23 pm
by Glork
Sorry... follow
panzer
. I had just finished asking MattP about his D1 reads list and typed the wrong name. HURR DURR.