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Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:11 pm
by TheIrishPope
Well, as I have pointed out, AtE (but Mara will kick my ass for saying this)
It's not. I am logically deducing Kerberos is scum. It is no policy shoot. Look up the definition.

NS are you admitting you are scum?
If you are not, answer this question: if you were scum, why would you choose Oil?

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:13 pm
by notscience
In post 650, TheIrishPope wrote:Well, as I have pointed out, AtE (but Mara will kick my ass for saying this)
It's not. I am logically deducing Kerberos is scum. It is no policy shoot. Look up the definition.

NS are you admitting you are scum?
If you are not, answer this question: if you were scum, why would you choose Oil?
I see no reason to dignify this with a response until my questions from before get answered, and I'd love to see where this accusation comes from.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:15 pm
by TheIrishPope
I wasn't in the pre-game discussion, so I wouldn't know...

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:15 pm
by Wisdom
Your logic is flawed though and has nothing to do with what they've done ingame. It only has to do with the fact they're a hydra. So it's policy.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:16 pm
by Ms Marangal
:|

everytime you post, I get that much closer to wanting to do that learning Hydra TIP but then I remember I probably don't have the time to do it right now.

So, your saying that we're scum because Nacho/Syry was chosen as Gun-bearer over us and because being a Hydra hinders the decision making process of choosing a gun-bearer?

that would make the assumption that Scum would think that the two heads of the Hydra would argue over talk about who they should shoot?

Get outta here TIP

Pedit: :|

AtE is not a scum-tell, jesus christ

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:18 pm
by notscience
In post 654, Ms Marangal wrote::|

everytime you post, I get that much closer to wanting to do that learning Hydra TIP but then I remember I probably don't have the time to do it right now.

So, your saying that we're scum because Nacho/Syry was chosen as Gun-bearer over us and because being a Hydra hinders the decision making process of choosing a gun-bearer?

that would make the assumption that Scum would think that the two heads of the Hydra would argue over talk about who they should shoot?

Get outta here TIP

Pedit: :|

AtE is not a scum-tell, jesus christ

Hai non-hyra acc :P

Wasn't I getting called out for flawed logic earlier as a scumtell? Interesting...

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:18 pm
by Kerberos
In post 654, Ms Marangal wrote::|

everytime you post, I get that much closer to wanting to do that learning Hydra TIP but then I remember I probably don't have the time to do it right now.

So, your saying that we're scum because Nacho/Syry was chosen as Gun-bearer over us and because being a Hydra hinders the decision making process of choosing a gun-bearer?

that would make the assumption that Scum would think that the two heads of the Hydra would argue over talk about who they should shoot?

Get outta here TIP

Pedit: :|

AtE is not a scum-tell, jesus christ

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:20 pm
by Wisdom
Also yeah TIP, saying that the hydra heads will definitely argue is a stretch. In fact, depending on the hydra and how well it works out, the fact they can discuss their shoot might be better in the end and they might be more accurate.

So really what you're telling us is that you're scum and you choise Oil because you thought that hydras argue.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:21 pm
by notscience
In post 657, Wisdom wrote:Also yeah TIP, saying that the hydra heads will definitely argue is a stretch. In fact, depending on the hydra and how well it works out, the fact they can discuss their shoot might be better in the end and they might be more accurate.

So really what you're telling us is that you're scum and you choise Oil because you thought that hydras argue.

And that you could attempt use the fact there was a hydra with more pieces as fodder.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:21 pm
by TheIrishPope
No, I am including the fact that scum chose a hydra to be the gunbearer for one reason only: hydra dissonance. Gives scum more chance to survive.
And they couldn't choose Kerberos because, you know, scum.
Point out where my logic is flawed.
You are right! It has nothing to do with what they've done ingame. I'm still right though.

PEdit: Yes Mara, that was my case. Why else would they choose Oil?
Second PEdit: Every hydra argues.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:25 pm
by notscience
In post 659, TheIrishPope wrote:No, I am including the fact that scum chose a hydra to be the gunbearer for one reason only: hydra dissonance. Gives scum more chance to survive.

A) I've pointed out another reason. B) Just if they spat a little doesn't mean scum have a higher chance to survive. They can bounce reads off each other and have a more informed shot.


And they couldn't choose Kerberos because, you know, scum.

Again, scum (you) could have planned that out accordingly ahead of time.


Point out where my logic is flawed.
You are right! It has nothing to do with what they've done ingame. I'm still right though.

No, you aren't.


PEdit: Yes Mara, that was my case. Why else would they choose Oil?

Already answered that.


Second PEdit: Every hydra argues.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:25 pm
by Wisdom
Bullshit. Not every hydra argues. If the fact you're in a hydra decreased how often you found scum nobody would do them. It really depends on how well the hydra works out. If a hydra that works out good and is able to find scum often becomes the gunbearer, it gives scum less chance to survive instead.

So yeah, stretched and flawed.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:27 pm
by TheIrishPope
Hydras are done so they are harder to read...

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:28 pm
by Wisdom
Even that is arguable. I find hydras easier to read.
But not the point.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:28 pm
by notscience
In post 661, Wisdom wrote:Bullshit. Not every hydra argues. If the fact you're in a hydra decreased how often you found scum nobody would do them. It really depends on how well the hydra works out. If a hydra that works out good and is able to find scum often becomes the gunbearer, it gives scum less chance to survive instead.

So yeah, stretched and flawed.
I can't tell if this is just a lack of information on his part, or scum trying to find something they think is irrefutable to lead to a misfire.

P-edit:
So, what you're telling me is, in your VAST experience on this forum, you know the sole reason for hydras? Really? Lolno.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:30 pm
by TheIrishPope
So you people are convinced I'm scum because I am scumhunting.
Seems legit.
Anyway, talk to Oil :P

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:31 pm
by Wisdom
Funny you're focusing on that of all things in the conversation.
Caught scum, methinks.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:32 pm
by notscience
In post 665, TheIrishPope wrote:So you people are convinced I'm scum because I am scumhunting.
Seems legit.
Anyway, talk to Oil :P
That's hardly scumhunting. That's speculation based on lack of information, or scum trying to pawn off a misfire. There is no proof. Show me proof if you want it to be creditted as scumhunting.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:33 pm
by Wisdom
bork, TIP.

Two more left.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:34 pm
by notscience
In post 668, Wisdom wrote:bork, TIP.

Two more left.
I disagree about bork. I would be willing to wager AA9 or Jacob are part of the scumteam however.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:34 pm
by notscience
In post 668, Wisdom wrote:bork, TIP.

Two more left.
I disagree about bork. I would be willing to wager AA9 or Jacob are part of the scumteam however.

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:34 pm
by Wisdom
One of them may be, most likely Jacob. Need to hear more from them.

Why is bork town?

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:35 pm
by TheIrishPope
Yeah, because you guys have really made an effort to find scum
Speculation is the basis of Mafia, silly NS
Scum wouldn't be this obvious

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:36 pm
by notscience
He seems to be actively scumhunting and bringing in new points that were overlooked.

Why do you think he's scum?

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:37 pm
by notscience
In post 672, TheIrishPope wrote:Yeah, because you guys have really made an effort to find scum
Speculation is the basis of Mafia, silly NS
Scum wouldn't be this obvious

"Scum wouldn't be this obvious"

Not only doesn't this sound bad for you, but also weren't you the one spewing that "NS is obvscum" earlier in the game?