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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:17 pm
by Bert
EBWOP: Toxic is getting the newb-town pass, and you all started convincing me he was town after I initially voted him D1, and it was working...anyways I need a re-read...gonna shut up for a few hours. :) Be glad.

P-edit: Depends, Toxic. I heard somewhere about the scum often jumping in the middle of wagons (3rd vote or something)...hammer too...but that's a guessin game I'm afraid and no use for me to talk about. Sorry, rambling here.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:20 pm
by toxic-banana
I actually missed Rach's coaching post for a long while too (I don't know if I'd read it before but it only actually sunk in just now as I was flicking back through hunting for Saki quotes). I don't know what to make of it. I get pretty wary of people chumming up to me in games now for precisely this reason. There's helping people, and there's causing town to mislynch.

I probably ought to be in a noob game but I learn fast and I just wanted to get into a game as quickly as possible so I joined all the queues.

To be honest, didn't you yourself Mac tell me when I said I had a town read on Rach that she hadn't really done anything D1? (and that shows how great my reads are :S ALTHOUGH saying that most people followed GiF rather than read her as scum)

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:23 pm
by Mac
yes I read her as scum for that and was curious why you read her as town

basically rach coached you and handed you a newb town card and in return you read her as town. i challenged this because she had done nothing.

so despite you being "wary of people chumming up to you" you still read her as town.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:24 pm
by GuyInFreezer
Bert I don't do paragraphs.
Town-rach actually has a content while scum rach focuses more on cheering/theory/fluff.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:24 pm
by FSnake
In post 624, Sakura Hana wrote:Why do I have a feeling of deja vĂș with the no death?
i don't know, a paticular game (and finished)?
In post 626, GuyInFreezer wrote:One of them is most likely a bus vote.
Discuss.
if there was a bus-vote i think Sakura and Bert are more likely to have made them than the other two
In post 648, toxic-banana wrote:A whole lot of vote jumping and then a hammer vote on Rach.

Surely that's when the scum would vote if bussing? Wouldn't want to vote prematurely.

VOTE: Saki
it would be such a bad bus with the false L-1 in it, wouldn't it?

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:25 pm
by Mac
rach gave toxic a newb town read
purely
because his posts seemed new.

toxic in turn said she felt town for being polite.

fakest. reads. ever

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:29 pm
by GuyInFreezer
Also rach always townreads her scumbuddies but she only gave out one read that's a townread so I'm not sure.
Or am I over thinking it?

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:31 pm
by Aquaman
From what little of Rach's posts there are, it does feel like she's lightly coaching Toxic. Between that and their mutual townreads, I think Toxic's probably scum. After that, I'm thinking the last scum is probably one of Sakura or TNE. But first things first:

Vote: ToxicBanana

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:34 pm
by Bert
GIF, what do you think of Mac so far. I don't remember him ever really being this interested/actively advancing the game in this way, so I'm just suspicious...but the way he changed so freakin fast from voting Saki to toxic banana gives me townvibes..I'm conflicted.

Aquaman I don't like the timing of your vote meh... gut doesnt like it one bit

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:36 pm
by Bert
In post 657, Aquaman wrote:From what little of Rach's posts there are, it does feel like she's lightly coaching Toxic. Between that and their mutual townreads, I think Toxic's probably scum. After that, I'm thinking the last scum is probably one of Sakura or TNE. But first things first:

Vote: ToxicBanana
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH scumdar pinging. You basically repeated what everyone said about Rach. I have a really bad feeling about this. Do you have any townreads at the moment?

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:37 pm
by FSnake
Aquaman i am curious that you only out scumreads in your few posts. do you have any townreads at this point?

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:38 pm
by DoctorPepper
I think its Timeater on the count of him saying "scum could be Rach" without voting or expressing prior suspicion to such.

VOTE: Timeater

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:40 pm
by Bert
Wow FSnake we are thinking the same thing.

I'm thinking I'm gonna vote Aquaman.

Vote: Aquaman


not sure about Saki yet, because honestly Saki is a hammerer regardless of alignment. I think Saki scum is more timid than that if she/he is bussing a scumbuddy, but idk..

P-edit: Dangit, why do several of you have to be so scummy (Timeater, Aquaman in particular). I came into today thinking about you two and TNE, and now Aquaman you are confirming my suspicions.....

dangit

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:42 pm
by Aquaman
I think GiF is probably town. Maybe Bert, too, I remember some of his posts felt pretty townish.

Not as suspicious of Saki anymore either. I'm not certain that scum would have pulled what she did with the hammer yesterday, and her posts don't feel as scummy to me in hindsight.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:43 pm
by DoctorPepper
I think Saki could be town for that hammer. I've seen town Saki quickhammer day 1 but I never see scum Saki quickhammer unless its lylo.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:43 pm
by DoctorPepper
Aquaman is also a good lynch.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:45 pm
by GuyInFreezer
I realized that I'm a total sucker for newbs after a certain newbie game but I think aquaman is just a newb.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:45 pm
by Mac
why why why would town quickhammer?

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:45 pm
by FSnake
you all talk about how saki hammers allignment-wise, so you don't believe he thought it was a L-1 vote?

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:46 pm
by Mac
like im considering dropping the quickhammer as a reason for saki being scum but i will never ever find him town for it and i dont think anyone else should either.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:47 pm
by GuyInFreezer
Nope. That was obviously on purpose.
^
To fsnake

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:47 pm
by DoctorPepper
In post 666, GuyInFreezer wrote:I realized that I'm a total sucker for newbs after a certain newbie game but I think aquaman is just a newb.
Yes and after that newbie game (fuck), do you think Saki is town for it. Especially how he hammered?

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:50 pm
by GuyInFreezer
I still think he's town.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:51 pm
by DoctorPepper
You guys should sheep me on the Timeater wagon :P

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:51 pm
by FSnake
is this certain game finished? i would like to get better at meta and to mention the games you hint to (if finished) would help thanks