Here are my updated reads:
1) Amrun
- Amrun was obvious as town from Day 1 onward. Her early suspicion of LngrrrR and death-tunneling was very town-like. It is the sort of thing that would be very difficult to fake as scum. Her actions in D2 continue to give me good vibes including the push on Stubbs and pointing out how he was doubly-cc'd. This is one read I am sure is 100% town.
2) Toomai
- Toomai is playing very similarly to how he generally plays as town. His reference to numbers and the implications of his "extremely slightly" reads which he counted based on percentage points matches his scumhunting style as town perfectly. While he doesn't have any scum games to compare, I don't believe that as scum, he would withhold on his graphs and charts despite people saying that he wasn't contributing. He had a ton of behind-the-scenes work that he only posted after I prodded him. I am close to 100% certain that he is town.
3) JasonWazza
– Jason’s behavior is difficult to read and his town and scum games are very similar. I don’t understand his suspicion of Amrun from Day 1 and his claim of LngrrR having “bullshit insider information.” But, I don’t think that he as scum counterclaimed one of his partners. Without any other claimed power roles, I find one doc, one investigative JOAT, and one useless role to be a reasonable expectation of town power. I’ll re-evaluate if anyone else claims a power role but so far I see no reason to suspect the claim. I am not 100% on this but we'll know soon enough if Jason is scum.
4) RachMarie
– Rach is playing very closely to her town-meta where she is often direct in accusing players where as scum, she is usually a lot more peripheral and gives the sense of an outsider looking in. A few examples where this is seen is in
Open 469 where she spends most of her time pushing a lynch wagon while demanding more content. There is also a lot of setup speculation as in this game which matches her town meta. As scum however, in games like
Newbie 1318, she asks a lot of clarification questions, and tells people to expand on their cases while taking the backseat. This isn’t present in any of her town games. Her tone also sounds more stilted where she puts Apozzle in the town category for making a good case. It is interesting to see that she doesn’t actually react to the case.
Open 489 is another example where she as scum doesn't directly involve herself in conflicts but stays on the sidelines and isn't very insistent of having her views heard.
A lot of her posts seem very natural like
210 for instance where she talks to Syryana. Her insistence that one of the claimed PR's are scum is also more likely to come from town than scum since one of them (Stubbs) was indeed scum. I think scum would be happy to forget about Stubbs when other people started reading him as town. While she does ask a few clarification questions, her demands for Marquis to provide reads on the other players also makes sense as what she would do as town. Her
362 where she insists that one of the JOATs are scum also makes little sense as scum since she is cutting down the potential for Stubbs to walk free.
4) fferyllt
- I like the fact that she reviewed LngrrR's meta to figure out whether the passive voice is indicative of his normal playstyle. I also think the case on Penguin came from a town motivation and I agree with it. I don't think she has been pro-active enough to be obvtown although a lot of her behavior mirrors that in
Newbie 1415 where she was helpful but not particularly aggressive during the later stages. Re-reading a lot of her earlier posts, they show genuine town-motivation including the reach-out to Syryana and discussion of her results of meta-diving Stubbs. However, a lot of her behavior is also similar to
Mini 1478 where she was scum and read people that she knew as town fairly easily – for instance saying “borktown” after a post from borkjerfkin in a similar way that she said “Rachtown” here after seeing a post from Rach. Not to mention that she and Cabd spent a considerable amount of time discussing Andrius’s games offsite with Empire. Her actions so far in the thread have been pro-town with no reason for suspicion. However, the fact that she could draw scum and play pretty much the exact same way makes me not confident in this read but rather tentatively put her as town and see what happens from there.
Ffery, another thing that bugs me is that you are not taking hard stances despite your meta-analysis which was
exactly what Oil Tycoons brought up in Mini 1478. I hadn’t read that post when I had that initial scumread on you for not taking stances but upon reading it, I figured that it was surprisingly accurate. If you are town, help me read you better and give me more of your thoughts on who the scum is.
5) Nachomamma8
– I lean slight town on Syryana but I want to see what Nacho comes up with.
7) MSG
- Most of MSG's posts have struck me as very genuinely paranoid. There isn't a lot of detailed analysis but his questioning of other players to see who they think is scum seems to come from a genuine town motivation. I am not sure how much of this is a playstyle issue and how much is affiliation dependent. MSG, can you provide links to town and scum games that you have played (at least 3 of each would be nice).
8) Penguin_Alien
– She hasn’t done any scumhunting or attempted to figure out anyone’s affiliation. Most of her comments came off as very convenient and non-committal. An example is her claim that LngrrrR’s reaction to his wagon was bad. There was no follow up or attempt at determining his motivations.
I also don’t believe ffery’s point about low hanging fruit was addressed properly. While I agree that this is a good playerlist, I certainly feel that MSG or Squilly would be a easier lynches than say ChannelDelibird, or Amrun. I would have been fine if she said that she simply suspected MSG but I don’t buy the response implying that there is no such thing as “high hanging fruit” in this playerlist.
She has been backing up some of her reads logically, for instance saying that Amrun is town because she elaborated on the reasons for the mafia nightkill and scum wouldn’t want to slip up. I don't think scum are any less likely to talk about NK motivations and I see it as a rather weak reason to townread someone who has been obvtown from Day 1. I can see some of Penguin’s play as logical, rational, and consistent but nowhere do I get the feeling that it is genuine, honest, or transparent.