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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:34 pm
by Whiskers
In post 25, pirate mollie wrote:matt am I allowed to talk to you this game or are there rules
What does this mean, even?
In post 31, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 27, Whiskers wrote:Pirate Mollie is super scum or super new noobie noob?

Can't tell.
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oh look some1 I have never played before thinks I am scum. I am shocked I tell you simply shocked
Also, this post is kind of great. It tells me that this has happened before. It tells me that people who have never played with you before, read you as scum, even when you're town. Meaning, even your town play is scummy.
And you're so proud of that!
It means that, you rely on players you have a history with, to come in and townread you-- based on meta, nothing more-- and save you. It means you can't hold your own. It means that, Oh My God,
You Suck
.
And you're so proud of it.
That's why "I hate you," hun. You're smug and sarcastic, but without the skill, or at least the luck, there's no reason to keep you around.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:36 pm
by Whiskers
In post 649, Malakittens wrote:Yes it's an argument against me because you are trying to discredit my town read on her.
Ok, well, the connotation is that I'm attacking you, which I'm not. You can't argue that, I am not attacking you. I am saying that, this thing that's making you read her as
"Even MORE Town!!"
shouldn't. Because it's null. That's why I'm "using it as an argument against you."

Also,
In post 648, Whiskers wrote:Remind me what it is about her play here that's to her town meta, please. I say "remind" because I'm pretty sure you already mentioned this. A Quote of your own post would suffice.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:06 pm
by Whiskers
In post 78, Malakittens wrote:Just read up.

Seeing Mollie as town which is my first town read.
So, this is the first place you townread Mollie, I assume based on meta, since you really haven't given any explanation for it here (or after, you just keep going, "oh, she's more town now," or "Oh wow, now she's even More town!", and meta seems to be the theme of the game.

So let's look at her posts up until this point.
post 24, Introduction post. Like an RVS, you get one.
post 25, More introduction. I'll even be generous and let it slide, since it's the next consecutive post in the game.
In post 28, pirate mollie wrote:what do you think of your wagon
Wow, great question! In Wisdom all but dismisses it. Either that was a satisfying answer, or Mollie forgot she asked? Or it was one of those "just for show" questions. She'd rather post,

post 31, where she uses emoticons and shit to blow off my assertion that she's going to be terrible.
In post 36, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 30, ArcAngel9 wrote:lot of known faces...

hey mattp, long time..

aww...my dear mollie is here :) I also think Nacho is scum, he cheated me on the other game. lets lynch him first. Wisdom can wait.

VOTE: Nacho
okay!

VOTE: nacho
Erm... I'll call this RVS? Although, now I wonder why you didn't vote Wisdom, since he was being wagonned in RVS, and considering you said you didn't like him being so calm. So yeah, no reason for you to have not voted him, but whatever.

post 43, Here you agree with Nacho, saying, Yeah, you thought he'd be more reactive. Again, why don't you vote him if he's acting strangely?

post 44,Ok so, this is interesting. Apparently it's in Wisdom's town meta to flail, but when Nacho even brings up the fact that he was voted, it
so
defensive, and totally suspicious. Right?

post 45, Lol. This is where my suspicions are really confirmed, imo-- you're terrible. This and post 71. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but when I saw this initially, and, hell, still-- when I see this, it looks like you're voting me because I left the thread for an hour. I've seen this kind of behaviour before from noobs from other sites, who expect the game to go by much,
much
faster than it really does.

post 46, Mollie townreads Arc. Why? No one knows.

post 61, post 63, and post 65, Mollie says Wisdom's passiveness is "freaking her out" and uses Wisdom's meta to say how weird it is that he's so passive. of course, still no votes. Why?
In post 67, pirate mollie wrote:cos I don't want to
cool.
And I know, I know, I know I don't know her meta. But this is town? Like, this is how
anyone
plays? This is totally anti-town.
In post 67, pirate mollie wrote:why are you asking me this vapid question as if you don't know me
And she's proud of it.



post 68, votes me.
In post 71, pirate mollie wrote:its been an hour
See above.
post 72, the address to her last post.
In post 74, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 70, Mirari wrote:VOTE: Whiskers
who are you
What do I say about this?

What do I say about
most
of these? pirate mollie's town meta is to be useless and anti-town? Cool. Cool. Let me just--

Unvote


There. There we go. There. Cool.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:15 pm
by Whiskers
So I notice, there's a lot of short posts, a lot of consecutive posts, also a lot of useless posts... the only posts worth anything, IMO, were #43 and #63.

How is this telling? How is it even telling, as far as meta goes? Like, how can you look at these posts and say, "Oh yeah. ScumMollie would
never
be an insufferable, apathetic, player." Or are you seeing it and going, "ScumMollie would
definitely
vote her scumreads!" or "ScumMollie always plays protown"??

Yeah, Mollie. I want to see some games where you've correctly, confidently read a player after one post of theirs, using meta tells alone.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:17 pm
by MattP
Whiskers, if it makes you feel less alone, I no longer have a townread on Mollie [:

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:34 pm
by shos
VOTE: nacho

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:15 pm
by MattP
I still think shos is the optimal lynch

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:34 pm
by penguin_alien
I'm not seeing what other people are in shos. I kind of see the mollie argument. I'm not following this game well at this point.

It seems like even if I disagree I should at least get what the arguments about shos are, as they can't all be coming from scum.

I'll read with a fresh head tomorrow.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:56 pm
by MattP
There's no way you don't see the arguments. You would at WORST understand our point of view but disagree with it. Your stance is so ridiculously unbelievable I am pretty certain that you're just making it up.

Also, you just simultaneously said you don't understand the case on shos and that you haven't followed the game.

VOTE: Penguin_Alien

At
best
I believe you're scum and WKing Shos-town. More likely is that Shos is your buddy and you're trying to shift focus elsewhere while not strongly committing to a Shos townread (I don't see what other's see but I'm also not really following). You also know I just dropped my PM townread and now you're pushing her softly.

Pirate Mollie is town more so than anyone if Penguin flips scum. Shos is probably scum as well.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:14 pm
by Wisdom
Desp and whiskers join the certainly town pile, for me anyway. They managed to get me paranoid on mollie.

I think I've seen mollie bringing out the chair and being this theatrical only as scum, in fact. I'll have to go check.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:15 pm
by Grimgroove
I've seen her do it as town, the chair-thing anyway, but her presence here is rather underwhelming.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:24 pm
by Wisdom
Not a chair, but this is what I was thinking about.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:38 pm
by Wisdom
In post 655, shos wrote:VOTE: nacho
?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:41 pm
by shos
peng and matt
(sorry for using huge that seems to be the only way you guys read my posts now).

I *am* shos and i dont see the case on me. Read: it is not that i disagree, i just dont know. So far all you said was "his posts are filler" and "sounds like scum". Please correct me if im wrong.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:43 pm
by shos
With quotes id there are any.

@wisdom: do you want to say anything or just ?, cuz if its just ? Then !.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:48 pm
by Wisdom
Why are you addressing that to peng when she just said she doesn't agree with the case?

Pedit: yes, why did you vote nacho?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:49 pm
by shos
In post 657, penguin_alien wrote: It seems like even if I disagree I should at least get what the arguments about shos are
What game are you reading wizdom

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:51 pm
by Wisdom
That means she does not understand what the case on you are.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:52 pm
by Wisdom
is*

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:54 pm
by Wisdom
And yet you are addressing her as if she has been claiming you are scum?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:59 pm
by shos
??????

Huh?

667 is correct. Where did you get that she thinks im scum from??

She asked what the case is. I said there is none. Asked matt to provide. Maybe you can do that too.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:01 pm
by Wisdom
You asked Matt AND peng to provide, are you kidding me?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:02 pm
by MattP
I am way too exhausted to say anything coherent right now, I'll respond after I recover from this all-nighter

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:05 pm
by shos
In post 663, shos wrote:So far all you said was "his posts are filler" and "sounds like scum". Please correct me if im wrong.
I dont recall peng saying that.

Anyway arguing semantics of language us useless. Please YOU provide me with your case. With quotes.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:07 pm
by Wisdom
In post 663, shos wrote:
peng and matt
(sorry for using huge that seems to be the only way you guys read my posts now).
Then why did you address it to peng? How hard is it to answer this?