Mafiascum.net

basically in order for that moonbeams logic path to make sense you'd have to say that being unenthusiastic is scummy

are you ready to make that assertion

^@UT

bzzt don't try to tie me to Fate's argument nice try though

I quoted a post where you said "I'm doing something different this game" and pointed out that I think explaining away behavioral tells by saying "I'm changing up my meta this game" is bullshit. it's not a full argument in and of itself, but it's still a horseshit argument that you make when someone catches you acting to your scum meta.

what I'm saying is I'm not really arguing that Fate is right about his behavioral tell, I just think your reaction to it was scummy

but it's cool, we're all voting for Triforce so let's put the claws back in today. you know I'm not going to lynch you because of your BP claim. don't shoot me tonight and we'll be back around for the bitchfest D2. I'll bring the nail polish and bonbons

EBWOP

In post 653, Untrod Tripod wrote:wyou know I'm not going to lynch you today because of your BP claim.

In post 652, Untrod Tripod wrote:bzzt don't try to tie me to Fate's argument nice try though

I quoted a post where you said "I'm doing something different this game" and pointed out that I think explaining away behavioral tells by saying "I'm changing up my meta this game" is bullshit. it's not a full argument in and of itself, but it's still a horseshit argument that you make when someone catches you acting to your scum meta.

translation:

"I took a quote out of context and ignored half of it in order to call you scummy"

The point is that so there is no behavioral tell to explain away in the first place

NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META. NOBODY CAUGHT ME ACTING TO MY SCUM META.

should I repeat it some more or is that enough for you to wrap your head around

I've never gotten a chance to fight you so earnestly UT. I feel alive. Let's go, don't back down.

I think you probably need to say it a few more times for it to become true

there's literally nothing you can do to get me to vote for you today so it's kind of a pointless 1v1

my heart won't be in it unfortunately

It's not a 1v1. It's digging down to the heart of the situation and hopefully spurning new revelations.

What exactly do you think is untrue about me saying nobody caught me acting to my scum meta?

That implies you think someone did, in fact, catch me acting to my scum meta. The only person who claimed to have caught my scum meta was Fate.

But...

In post 653, Untrod Tripod wrote:what I'm saying is I'm not really arguing that Fate is right about his behavioral tell, I just think your reaction to it was scummy

You just said you're not arguing that Fate is right about his tell/meta on me.

So which is it?

although the only thing that gives me pause is that you claimed D1 only BP. that seems like a really weird scumclaim, but you're a saavy enough player to know that you'd just invite vig bullets by claiming full BP so you would have to limit it

hmm

I'm not buying his argument really, but I found your reaction to be scummy

that's what it is

In post 661, Untrod Tripod wrote:I'm not buying his argument really, but I found your reaction to be scummy

that's what it is

That's not what it is, because:

In post 652, Untrod Tripod wrote:it's not a full argument in and of itself, but it's still a horseshit argument that you make when someone catches you acting to your scum meta.

Your stance on my reaction is predicated on the idea that someone caught me acting to my scum meta.

I say nobody caught me acting to my scum meta.

You say that isn't true.

Now you're refusing to clarify the contradiction.

I think what you're doing is taking me describing someone else's argument and trying to make it be my argument

it seems to me that what Fate is saying is that he's caught you acting to what he thinks is your scum meta. is this not what he's saying?

Beep boop

In post 663, Untrod Tripod wrote:I think what you're doing is taking me describing someone else's argument and trying to make it be my argument

it seems to me that what Fate is saying is that he's caught you acting to what he thinks is your scum meta. is this not what he's saying?

The entirety of you viewing my response to Fate's argument rests on me believing that Fate caught my "scum meta". My immediate response to Fate's "catch" was to point out that the "scum meta" he's using is not just off, it's completely wrong/opposite to what my scum meta actually is.

When you say my reaction to is bad, you are then required to believe that Fate has caught my scum meta in order to make that argument.

no. I'm not.

Then you're just fucking bullshitting.

You clearly stated that you thought it was scummy to explain a change in behavior to explain away a scum meta tell. That's not what I was doing, since the scum meta Fate had was not true. Therefore, in order to actually believe your original statement, you're actually saying that you believe Fate had scum meta on me, and I reacted poorly to Fate having scum meta on me.

If you do believe that Fate has accurate scum meta on me, then your original point that I tried to explain away my scum meta behavior doesn't stand, since I wouldn't be explaining ANYTHING away if Fate's meta was false.

Do you follow? You can't say "you were explaining away scum meta" while also saying "but Fate didn't actually have any scum meta" because those two can't exist simultaneously.

Reck

listen very carefully

I don't have to agree with Fate's argument to dislike your reaction to it. there's not an amount of dust you can kick up to make this fact go away.

Just smoked some stuff next door and now I see everything

literally everything


this game is a mere speck on the scale of that which I know

breaking it open is adult's play

I say adult's because children are more enlightened than adults.

We are in the dark

they dance in the light

they see everything before we force them to forget

So

All

is

known.

your reaction read to me as scum arguing against a bad meta argument, not town arguing against a bad meta argument

and IN ANY CASE I'm not voting you today so why don't we put a pin in this until tomorrow

maybe what you do for the rest of the day will cause me to townread you, who knows!?

PEdit

oh my god fate

I've never been high and not paranoid before but


now

Now all is clear

Reck join me on this side

everything's beautiful

Reck its ok. Its ok to be scum

There must be evil to be good

There must be dark to be light

you have to be scum so that we are town.

Fate stop we're not lynching the claimed beloved princess do you not remember Gay Mafia?

UT.

That was before

before I was enlightened

its fitting this is the game I finally read Reck correctly (on site) in a long time.


This is the game all truths are known.

Reckoner is scum. This is a known truth. His fabricated claim does not scare me

because it is not true.

When all is known there is no longer fear.

It is simple